Rlevse returned, Has Rlevse returned to plague FAC? Options

[chrisoff]

Seems that Rlevse has returned as PumpkinSky SPECIFICALLY to poison the well at FAC.

He caused the "sour grapes" effect at the recent RFC at WT:FAC over Raul654's "Director for Life" RFC


And Rlevse caused the nastiness and viciousness at Wt:FAC in general


But Elen of the Roads says he's not to be blocked for that or for a few copyvios here and there!

but, but! There's ax grinding against SandyGeorgia by three who are three grinding an axe: Rlevse, TCO who unvanished, and Alarbus

Wait! She forgot to mention Wehwalt. (This should distract them all from Malleus's cunt problem at the Civility Arbcom)

Where do we find the SPI? Wasn't that the one that TCO wrongly accused of being Mattisse (which was goofy as all heck), bringing Risker down on his head? In other words, I belive someone has checkuser data on BarkingMoon, and can say where he geolocates

Matisse must be climbing the walls!

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[mbz1]

OMG

[Cla68]

In the email exchange, Will Beback threatens Rlevse that if he doesn't leave the project, Will will publicly release details he dug up about Wikipedia editing by Rlevse's wife. Rlevse, understandably angered by the threat, then curses at Will Beback.

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[radek]

In the email exchange, Will Beback threatens Rlevse that if he doesn't leave the project, Will will publicly release details he dug up about Wikipedia editing by Rlevse's wife. Rlevse, understandably angered by the threat, then curses at Will Beback.

This is unnerving. I'm actually starting to feel bad for Rlevse, or at least his wife. And I certainly don't like him, and I especially didn't like him when he was on ArbCom running around yelling about "banned means banned" and being a generally abusive asshole. Now that he's down on the ground though... yeah, I feel a little bad for him - some kind of boyscout code or someting. Especially since I'm not too keen on some of the other players on the other side of this equation and how they've acted. And no, I don't mean Sandy... oh ok, lemme say it, I mean Will Beback. And then I don't really like Cla's opportunistic questions to Will either which have more to do with grudges (however well deserved) than what this is really about... gee, I guess I just don't like anybody on there.

A plague on all six houses, and someone should probably point out to Rlevse personally that it's about time he made it official, made a real account here and started spilling the goodies under his Wikipedia name.

[Cla68]

In the email exchange, Will Beback threatens Rlevse that if he doesn't leave the project, Will will publicly release details he dug up about Wikipedia editing by Rlevse's wife. Rlevse, understandably angered by the threat, then curses at Will Beback.

This is unnerving. I'm actually starting to feel bad for Rlevse, or at least his wife. And I certainly don't like him, and I especially didn't like him when he was on ArbCom running around yelling about "banned means banned" and being a generally abusive asshole. Now that he's down on the ground though... yeah, I feel a little bad for him - some kind of boyscout code or someting. Especially since I'm not too keen on some of the other players on the other side of this equation and how they've acted. And no, I don't mean Sandy... oh ok, lemme say it, I mean Will Beback. And then I don't really like Cla's opportunistic questions to Will either which have more to do with grudges (however well deserved) than what this is really about... gee, I guess I just don't like anybody on there.

A plague on all six houses, and someone should probably point out to Rlevse personally that it's about time he made it official, made a real account here and started spilling the goodies under his Wikipedia name.

I suspect that Rlevse would like to return to editing WP without being forced to grovel as Raul654 and others would probably require him to do otherwise, and is the usual procedure with indef blocked or RTV editors.

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[radek]

In the email exchange, Will Beback threatens Rlevse that if he doesn't leave the project, Will will publicly release details he dug up about Wikipedia editing by Rlevse's wife. Rlevse, understandably angered by the threat, then curses at Will Beback.

This is unnerving. I'm actually starting to feel bad for Rlevse, or at least his wife. And I certainly don't like him, and I especially didn't like him when he was on ArbCom running around yelling about "banned means banned" and being a generally abusive asshole. Now that he's down on the ground though... yeah, I feel a little bad for him - some kind of boyscout code or someting. Especially since I'm not too keen on some of the other players on the other side of this equation and how they've acted. And no, I don't mean Sandy... oh ok, lemme say it, I mean Will Beback. And then I don't really like Cla's opportunistic questions to Will either which have more to do with grudges (however well deserved) than what this is really about... gee, I guess I just don't like anybody on there.

A plague on all six houses, and someone should probably point out to Rlevse personally that it's about time he made it official, made a real account here and started spilling the goodies under his Wikipedia name.

I suspect that Rlevse would like to return to editing WP without being forced to grovel as Raul654 and others would probably require him to do otherwise, and is the usual procedure with indef blocked editors.

Yup. But in the big scheme of things he's not exactly the kind of former Wiki editor one can muster much sympathy for. Sort of like Rodhullandemu but different issues. I dunno, it's just a faction fight among the inner circle. I'm not sure why we should give a shit. Probably just annex it.

[Cla68]

In the email exchange, Will Beback threatens Rlevse that if he doesn't leave the project, Will will publicly release details he dug up about Wikipedia editing by Rlevse's wife. Rlevse, understandably angered by the threat, then curses at Will Beback.

This is unnerving. I'm actually starting to feel bad for Rlevse, or at least his wife. And I certainly don't like him, and I especially didn't like him when he was on ArbCom running around yelling about "banned means banned" and being a generally abusive asshole. Now that he's down on the ground though... yeah, I feel a little bad for him - some kind of boyscout code or someting. Especially since I'm not too keen on some of the other players on the other side of this equation and how they've acted. And no, I don't mean Sandy... oh ok, lemme say it, I mean Will Beback. And then I don't really like Cla's opportunistic questions to Will either which have more to do with grudges (however well deserved) than what this is really about... gee, I guess I just don't like anybody on there.

A plague on all six houses, and someone should probably point out to Rlevse personally that it's about time he made it official, made a real account here and started spilling the goodies under his Wikipedia name.

I suspect that Rlevse would like to return to editing WP without being forced to grovel as Raul654 and others would probably require him to do otherwise, and is the usual procedure with indef blocked editors.

Yup. But in the big scheme of things he's not exactly the kind of former Wiki editor one can muster much sympathy for. Sort of like Rodhullandemu but different issues. I dunno, it's just a faction fight among the inner circle. I'm not sure why we should give a shit. Probably just annex it.

About the Will Beback stuff. Will Beback says he notified the Committee about the Jojo stuff and they (specifically NewYorkBrad) said they would address it if Rlevse returned. Rlevse returned. Will neglected to remember that ArbCom had said they would handle it (if, in fact, they really said or meant that) and jumped right into it, utilizing WP's old school methods of intimidation, coercion, and threats of wiki-humiliation, with which he appears to be familiar.

You have to understand it from Will's perspective. It was his information. He found it! It belonged to him to utilize it as he saw fit. It fits in with what Kelly Martin has said in this forum about Wikipedians using and trading information for their personal agendas.

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[Peter Damian]

This is a risk we have in permitting husbands and wives to edit, other couples, Lar/Josette, Balloonman/Ginko, J.delanoy/Thingg (brothers) all come to mind. I would be interested to see the close calls Will mentions above, not with an eye towards going back and changing the outcome, but with the goal of learning how we can better identify groups of !voters and attempt to find a way to discount groups we can clearly see are meatpuppets of each other. MBisanz talk 02:48, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

You could extend this principle in all sorts of ways, even into real life. You could say e.g. that when different people belong to the same political party, and clearly vote not because of specific issues but simply because they trust the party they are voting for, then this is 'meatpuppeting'. It violates the 'crowdsourcing' principle that every actor in the game must act on the basis of issues and content alone, and not other things like trust, personal relationships, geography etc. This way we could ban all political parties whatsoever.

Ideally, there would just be one party, the Wikipedia party, and any vote against that party is punishable by banning, execution, imprisonment, forcible dismemberment and disembowelling. The possibilities are endless and interesting, as well as entertaining. Let's have some more of this please.

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[A Horse With No Name]

This is a risk we have in permitting husbands and wives to edit, other couples, Lar/Josette, Balloonman/Ginko, J.delanoy/Thingg (brothers) all come to mind. MBisanz talk 02:48, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Funny, but the Delanoy Brothers' connection came out here on WR - straight from the Horsey's mouth, too! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

Have they actually outed themselves on WP? Or is MBisanz just repeating what he read here?