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The "old" SlimVirgin is back. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/popcorn.gif)

Gone is the chastened, relatively civil, law-abiding SV. Over the past days, she has unleashed a torrential flood of edits on a subject dear to her heart, Lyndon LaRouche (T-H-L-K-D). Her rich palette of POV editing tactics, including intimidation and confusing and misleading edit summaries, is in play (for example, when adding some guy to the lead that says LaRouche is a fascist, her edit summary is "some tidying.") And, she has renewed her tag-team vows with Will Beback. They are so sweet when proclaiming that the two of them have together found "consensus." Was it good for you?
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And, Leatherstocking was just indefinitely blocked by Georgewilliamherbert. Oddly enough, GWH is not claiming that he is me. It appears to be case of living on the West Coast in a very similar way.
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 27th October 2009, 10:15pm) *

And, Leatherstocking was just indefinitely blocked by Georgewilliamherbert. Oddly enough, GWH is not claiming that he is me. It appears to be case of living on the West Coast in a very similar way.


If there was any chance of LaRouche getting a fair shake on Wikipedia, I'd say that's now up in smoke. I normally would not be sympathetic to a LaRouche employee, if true, being blocked from editing LaRouche topics on Wikipedia, but SV and WillBeBack are not, in my opinion, making an honest effort to treat the LaRouche articles in a neutral manner.

I think the only reason they haven't been taken to task about it is because no one active in Wikipedia's administration cares enough about it do anything. The thing is, Wikipedia's credibility is judged by how it treats all topics, including LaRouche. So, if the LaRouche articles are being used to discredit the guy, especially by two long-time administrators, then it helps make Wikipedia look even more bush league.
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 28th October 2009, 12:10am) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 27th October 2009, 10:15pm) *

And, Leatherstocking was just indefinitely blocked by Georgewilliamherbert. Oddly enough, GWH is not claiming that he is me. It appears to be case of living on the West Coast in a very similar way.


If there was any chance of LaRouche getting a fair shake on Wikipedia, I'd say that's now up in smoke. I normally would not be sympathetic to a LaRouche employee, if true, being blocked from editing LaRouche topics on Wikipedia, but SV and WillBeBack are not, in my opinion, making an honest effort to treat the LaRouche articles in a neutral manner.


Cla, you were strongly supportive of efforts to defend the Prem Rawat articles from cultist editing, but you take the opposite view on the LaRouche articles. Perhaps you could explain what the difference is.

The fact is that Leatherstocking repeatedly said he had no connection with the LaRouche movement, and had only "vaguely heard of them" when he joined WP, but was yesterday found to have been editing all along from an IP address assigned to a company that's owned by the movement. Some examples here of his claim not to be involved. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=322476322

Will and I want to produce accurate, well-written articles about LaRouche, but there's barely been a day since 2004 when the articles weren't under attack from member(s) of the LaRouche movement. The problem with these editors, assuming it's more than one person, is that they appear incapable of thinking independently about LaRouche. No matter the issue, no matter how terrible the sources they have to fall back on, they uniformly edit in a way that they think makes LaRouche look good. They remove material about the movement's violence that's sourced to The New York Times, but add material about how an associate of LaRouche's once said he was a wonderful economist, according to a Russian-language newspaper that no one can read. No one should be defending that kind of editing.

As for King, he has also been asked not to edit these articles anymore.

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QUOTE(Hell Freezes Over @ Wed 28th October 2009, 5:42am) *

QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 28th October 2009, 12:10am) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 27th October 2009, 10:15pm) *

And, Leatherstocking was just indefinitely blocked by Georgewilliamherbert. Oddly enough, GWH is not claiming that he is me. It appears to be case of living on the West Coast in a very similar way.


If there was any chance of LaRouche getting a fair shake on Wikipedia, I'd say that's now up in smoke. I normally would not be sympathetic to a LaRouche employee, if true, being blocked from editing LaRouche topics on Wikipedia, but SV and WillBeBack are not, in my opinion, making an honest effort to treat the LaRouche articles in a neutral manner.


Cla, you were strongly supportive of efforts to defend the Prem Rawat articles from cultist editing, but you take the opposite view on the LaRouche articles. Perhaps you could explain what the difference is.

The fact is that Leatherstocking repeatedly said he had no connection with the LaRouche movement, and had only "vaguely heard of them" when he joined WP, but was yesterday found to have been editing all along from an IP address assigned to a company that's owned by the movement.

Will and I want to produce accurate, well-written articles about LaRouche, but there's barely been a day since 2004 when the articles weren't under attack from member(s) of the LaRouche movement. The problem with these editors, assuming it's more than one person, is that they appear incapable of thinking independently about LaRouche. No matter the issue, no matter how terrible the sources they have to fall back on, they uniformly edit in a way that they think makes LaRouche look good. They remove material about the movement's violence that's sourced to The New York Times, but add material about how an associate of LaRouche's once said he was a wonderful economist, according to a Russian-language newspaper that no one can read. No one should be defending that kind of editing.

As for King, he has also been asked not to edit these articles anymore.


Well, for one thing, why have you and Will been so eager to ban pro-LaRouche editors, but so reluctant to ban Chip Berlet and Dennis King, who are just as entrenched in their POV as the pro-LaRouche editors? If you and Will really were trying to produce "fair" articles, how did you overlook what those two editors were doing? I give Chip and Dennis credit for being open about their POV and agenda, but they apparently could be open about it because they feared no sanction for doing so.

The ArbCom ruling appears to allow editors to be banned if they are associated with LaRouche. Thus, someone like Leatherstocking would have no choice but to lie about their affiliation. To do otherwise would have meant an instant ban. Now, if these bans were being handed out fairly, to both sides, then there wouldn't be a problem. But, that's not the case, is it?

By the way, how was Dennis King notified that he shouldn't edit the LaRouche topics anymore? I checked his user talk page, expecting to see a comment from you under my comment, but I don't see anything. From what I've been taught and have seen, formal corrective action is really only enforceable if it is written and documented, such as by a post on an editor's user talk page.

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Well, for one thing, why have you and Will been so eager to ban pro-LaRouche editors, but so reluctant to ban Chip Berlet and Dennis King, who are just as entrenched in their POV as the pro-LaRouche editors? If you and Will really were trying to produce "fair" articles, how did you overlook what those two editors were doing? I give Chip and Dennis credit for being open about their POV and agenda, but they apparently could be open about it because they feared no sanction for doing so.

The ArbCom ruling appears to allow editors to be banned if they are associated with LaRouche. Thus, someone like Leatherstocking would have no choice but to lie about their affiliation. To do otherwise would have meant an instant ban. Now, if these bans were being handed out fairly, to both sides, then there wouldn't be a problem. But, that's not the case, is it?


You didn't really answer the question. Why are you strongly opposed to cultist editing on Prem Rawat, but not strongly opposed to it on the LaRouche articles?

The LaRouche accounts have been banned because they're believed to be controlled by one person, Herschelkrustofksy, who is a staff member of this website. I don't know whether Leatherstocking was also HK. I do know that his IP address was owned by American System Publications, the LaRouche company in Los Angeles that HK said he worked for, under the name he gave for himself, which has been discussed here before. I won't repeat the name in case he'd prefer it wasn't posted, and I'm not even sure it really is him, but that person does work for American System Publications in Los Angeles. So if HK didn't operate the Leatherstocking account himself, he surely knows who did.

As for King and Berlet, both are published experts on LaRouche. This website normally deplores when published experts are run off Wikipedia, yet here you are supporting it. A lot of your strongly entrenched positions seem to be overturned when it comes to LaRouche, presumably in part because a LaRouche movement member runs this site, and in part because it's a way of taking a dig at me. But I hope you'll do your best to stand back and look at the situation clearly, ignoring who you like and don't like.

Berlet hasn't edited [[Lyndon LaRouche]] since 2007, and is barely used as a source, if at all. In three years, he only made 192 edits to it, and I doubt many have survived. King has edited it more recently, but his edits aren't sticking, and he's been asked by e-mail more than once to stop editing it, in his own interests as much as for any other reason. He is also barely used as a source in the article. It's disgraceful that two experts on LaRouche, people the high-quality mainstream media use as sources, have been so discouraged or prevented from editing those articles, assisted by personal attacks posted against them here by the movement -- including BLP attack pages created by Herschelkrustofksy -- but that's Wikipedia for you.

In total, the accounts known to be associated with LaRouche have made around 1200 edits to the article, more than anyone else. If you want to complain about inappropriate editing, please address your complaints in the first instance to the man who controlled all or most of these accounts, Herschelkrustofsky.



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QUOTE(Hell Freezes Over @ Wed 28th October 2009, 12:08am) *

I don't know whether Leatherstocking was also HK. I do know that his IP address was owned by American System Publications, the LaRouche company in Los Angeles that HK said he worked for, under the name he gave for himself, which has been discussed here before.
I've never said anything like that.


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As for King and Berlet, both are published experts on LaRouche. This website normally deplores when published experts are run off Wikipedia, yet here you are supporting it.
Neither King nor Berlet are "experts" in any conventional sense. They are propagandists and conspiracy theorists of the sort that Wikipedia should be extremely cautious about using as sources.


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King has edited it more recently, but his edits aren't sticking, and he's been asked by e-mail more than once to stop editing it, in his own interests as much as for any other reason. He is also barely used as a source in the article.
Well, that's a load of crap. You manage to disguise the degree to which King is used as a source, by "laundering" King's conspiracy theories through Antony Lerman, a British academic who simply wrote a synopsis of King's book which was then published in an anthology.


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This website normally deplores when published experts are run off Wikipedia, yet here you are supporting it. A lot of your strongly entrenched positions seem to be overturned when it comes to LaRouche, presumably in part because a LaRouche movement member runs this site, and in part because it's a way of taking a dig at me.
You presume incorrectly. My political views here have about as much influence as they do at [[WP:ANI]]. However, your second presumption may be more correct. People here may be inclined to be skeptical of what you say, because your tactics at WP are so consistently odious.


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The existence and implications of the Arbcom decision against pro-LaRouche editors should be in-your-face on the talk page for the benefit of any editor foolish enough to try, but far more importantly, this same information should be provided to readers in order they better assess the neutrality and accuracy of the article(s).
That's a brilliant idea, and there is of course no chance in Hell that it will be implemented. Anyone want to start a pool about how long it will take Slim 'n' Will to remove the neutrality dispute tag from Lyndon LaRouche (T-H-L-K-D), now that they have taken Leatherstocking's scalp?
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Wed 28th October 2009, 2:28pm) *

I've never said anything like that.


The real name that has been posted for you on this site, and the name that was embedded into a file you posted on Wikipedia -- that person works for American System Publications, a LaRouche outfit, in Los Angeles. Leatherstocking's IP address resolves to American System Publications in Los Angeles. Perhaps you could address that point.

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Neither King nor Berlet are "experts" in any conventional sense. They are propagandists and conspiracy theorists of the sort that Wikipedia should be extremely cautious about using as sources.


They are very precisely experts in the "conventional sense." They've been studying LaRouche for decades. They've been published by conventional publishing houses and encyclopedias. When the BBC wants to know about LaRouche, they interview Berlet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpSx8K0U21A...related&search=

Berlet and King know about the violence, the threats, the insane beliefs, the defamation of critics, and the extensive propaganda published by outfits such as .... American System Publications. That's why you detest them, it's why you and your socks have spent years on Wikipedia undermining them, and it's why you created their BLPs to attack them, and used this website for the same purpose.

And you succeeded. Berlet was too disgusted to continue. King has agreed not to edit those pages anymore.
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Cla68   [quote name='Heat' post='202118' date='Thu 29th O...  
Herschelkrustofsky   LaRouche evidently isn't outright dismissed i...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='202192' date='Thu 29th ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   I agree with you that the subject probably really...  
Jon Awbrey   I agree with you that the subject probably reall...  
Happy drinker   There is a general principle that if an account b...  
Herschelkrustofsky   But Wikipedia is not a court of criminal law. We...  
It's the blimp, Frank   I'm surprised Leatherstocking lasted as long a...  
Milton Roe   I'm surprised Leatherstocking lasted as long ...  
Cla68   I'm surprised Leatherstocking lasted as long ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   There is a thread at ANI now. So far, not much of ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   There is a thread at ANI now. So far, not much of...  
Heat   It appears we have a situation where people are ut...  
Kelly Martin   It appears we have a situation where people are ut...  
Moulton   Naw, we gave up the song parody business ages ago.  
Herschelkrustofsky   Actually, to correct Sr. Awbrey, it's Will Beb...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Holy BADSITES, Batman! ZOMG! Foreign lang...  
Milton Roe   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lyndon_LaR...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lyndon_LaR...  
Milton Roe   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lyndon_La...  
wikieyeay   Holy BADSITES, Batman! ZOMG! Foreign lan...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Never let it be said that Slim is too proud to rem...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Jayen clearly has WB's number:  
Herschelkrustofsky   All kinds of interesting people are showing up now...  
Random832   All kinds of interesting people are showing up no...  
Cla68   All kinds of interesting people are showing up no...  
Herschelkrustofsky   By the way, Jayen and SV appear to be collaborati...  
Jon Awbrey   By the way, Jayen and SV appear to be collaborat...  
Milton Roe   By the way, Jayen and SV appear to be collaborat...  
It's the blimp, Frank   What a mess this article is: Ref 20 (Mintz) is...  
Milton Roe   They are arguing about that point [url=http://en....  
Hell Freezes Over   Look, Neil Armstrong's suit doesn't cast ...  
Somey   I experienced the LaRouche focus on Brits and Jews...  
Hell Freezes Over   I experienced the LaRouche focus on Brits and Je...  
gomi   ... HK set out to destroy me, focusing on (as he ...  
Hell Freezes Over   Let's see, Slim. HK wants to destroy you for...  
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='gomi' post='203155' date='Fri 6th No...  
gomi   you have as a staff member -- with access to all t...  
Cla68   Of course it makes sense that anyone who edits Wik...  
Hell Freezes Over   The same thing is happening here with LaRouche. ...  
Achromatic   Perhaps you could respond to my post above about ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   I'm going to abandon my usual terse posting st...  
gomi   Attention WP admins: only you can read John Train ...  
Mackan   If LaRouche were what Slim claims he is, he never...  
Cedric   Here's my question: if someone is eighty year...  
Cla68   Here's my question: if someone is eighty yea...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='Cedric' post='203191' date='Fri 6th ...  
Happy drinker   How does "a character completely on the frin...  
gomi   Russia and China isn't quite the same as the r...  
Hell Freezes Over   Moreover, SV, you didn't address why the Dugg...  
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Mackan' post='203184' date='Fri 6th ...  
Heat   Now, the model which LaRouche opposes, which beca...  
Herschelkrustofsky   That's odd. This is the first time I've e...  
Hell Freezes Over   Your typically self-serving description omits the...  
Hell Freezes Over   LaRouche is notable and controversial for one re...  
Random832   So basically the King's Fund, set up in London...  
Herschelkrustofsky   So basically the King's Fund, set up in Londo...  
Jon Awbrey   After all, I also volunteered for Eugene McCarthy...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='203087' date='Thu ...  
Jon Awbrey   I agree it’s a reasonable enquiry. The pro...  
Hell Freezes Over   Yes, but do go on. The officials on both sides o...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Jayen has begun editing Death of Jeremiah Duggan, ...  
EricBarbour   Does that crazy woman really think that calling he...  
Happy drinker   SlimVirgin is as entitled as anyone else, includin...  
Herschelkrustofsky   SlimVirgin is as entitled as anyone else, includi...  
Cla68   [quote name='Happy drinker' post='202990' date='W...  
Milton Roe   SlimVirgin is as entitled as anyone else, includi...  
Happy drinker   SlimVirgin is as entitled as anyone else, includ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   The other great thing about the Duggan saga is tha...  
Milton Roe   The other great thing about the Duggan saga is th...  
Herschelkrustofsky   You see, she's a non-involved, unbiased edito...  
It's the blimp, Frank   I know that Slim doesn't answer questions, but...  
Random832   But "the friend of my enemy is also my enemy...  
Jon Awbrey   Brilliant, HunterKiller, you have cleverly cornere...  
Herschelkrustofsky   You've obviously never been to the UK, or mor...  
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