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> Please AfD the Google_Watch article, It's so bad that I'm embarrassed
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The Wikipedia article on Google Watch is a piece of shit. Will some kind soul please nominate it for deletion?

For example, the cookie-expiration line is out of date. For the last 2.5 years, they ostensibly expire in two years. However, Google admits that as the expiration date approaches, they are automatically renewed for another two years. To get the cookie to expire, you have to avoid all Google sites for the entire two years, or wait until your hard disk heads for the dumpster, or delete them yourself.

The "Response" section says this: "A May 2003 PC World article described Google Watch as "perhaps justifiably paranoid",[4] however Google's defenders assert that Google Watch offers very little evidence to back up its allegations.[5]" But these citations are six years old! In the seven years since Google-Watch.org began, there has been a tremendous increase in the number of Google critics.

If Wikipedia must mention Google Watch, note that it's already mentioned and linked in this Wikipedia article. That's okay by me, because my name isn't on that one.

The Wikipedia article on Google-Watch.org is such junk that I decided a year ago to hide the whois for the site behind a proxy. It's downright embarrassing to have my name in that Wikipedia article. But I'm banned from Wikipedia and cannot nominate it myself.

(By the way, a person who is banned from Wikipedia should have the right to demand that any article that names him or her be edited to exclude his or her name.)
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Haw, haw, what a sock drawer:
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That it's notable seems to have been confirmed in past deletion discussions - if there are problems with the content, identify and fix them. --Kotniski (talk) 20:47, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Comment: What agenda do you have to push, Kotnitski? Remember, this is not the first time you've been hanging around articles relating to Daniel Brandt. This was you in April 2008, trying to get Daniel Brandt listed on a surname page listing notable people with the last name "Brandt". I see this as an attempt at baiting, and it's obvious that you have an agenda to push regarding this. So, what is it? Paz y Unidad (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

To stop Wikipedia's readers from being deprived of good information just because a few obsessed people don't like it, I suppose. What's yours? You seem very new here to be nominating controversial articles for deletion.--Kotniski (talk) 21:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

But seriously, what is with Kotniski? Normally he edits Polish-related articles, and keeps a low profile. Many times in the past when one of Daniel's unwanted pages came up for AFD, he's in there, fighting like hell to keep it. Always in parallel with John Nevard.....

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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th December 2009, 5:13pm) *

But seriously, what is with Kotniski? Normally he edits Polish-related articles, and keeps a low profile. Many times in the past when one of Daniel's unwanted pages came up for AFD, he's in there, fighting like hell to keep it. Always in parallel with John Nevard.....

Kotniski is Dr John Catlow, Senior Lecturer, Institute of Linguistics, Department of Information Systems, Adam Mickiewicz University, Poland. Put "dr john catlow" into Google and, with the help of the "Translate this page" link, you will find him. He has a PhD in math from England, and he's into software development on the Wikipedia bugzilla mailing list. Haven't found a birthdate or pic yet.

Found a pic but still working on his age.

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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 4th December 2009, 7:19pm) *

Kotniski is Dr John Catlow, Senior Lecturer, Institute of Linguistics, Department of Information Systems, Adam Mickiewicz University, Poland. Put "dr john catlow" into Google and, with the help of the "Translate this page" link, you will find him. He has a PhD in math from England, and he's into software development on the Wikipedia bugzilla mailing list. Haven't found a birthdate or pic yet.

Found a pic but still working on his age.

Daniel, I know my saying this is generally the kiss-of-death for these things, but please don't put him up on Hivemind. Not right now, please!! It's a hard enough battle right now and doing that is only going to make things worse.

Please don't (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

EDIT: Ugh - too late
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QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 4th December 2009, 10:35pm) *

Daniel, I know my saying this is generally the kiss-of-death for these things, but please don't put him up on Hivemind. Not right now, please!! It's a hard enough battle right now and doing that is only going to make things worse.

Please don't (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)
Sorry, but this guy has been stalking me, and I'm fed up with it. Do you have any idea what that's like?

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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 4th December 2009, 8:52pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 4th December 2009, 10:35pm) *

Daniel, I know my saying this is generally the kiss-of-death for these things, but please don't put him up on Hivemind. Not right now, please!! It's a hard enough battle right now and doing that is only going to make things worse.

Please don't (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)
Sorry, but this guy has been stalking me, and I'm fed up with it. Do you have any idea what that's like?

Funny you should ask that. Showing up at your place, is he?

I don't need to explain to you, Daniel, that doing this is only going to bring all the usual idiots out of the woodwork to ensure the stupid article is now going to be kept? Nothing like a little spite and vengeance to bring 'em all out. Why the fuck do I bother?
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QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 4th December 2009, 11:54pm) *

I don't need to explain to you, Daniel, that doing this is only going to bring all the usual idiots out of the woodwork to ensure the stupid article is now going to be kept? Nothing like a little spite and vengeance to bring 'em all out. Why the fuck do I bother?


Spectators of the meta-game know that Bringing All The Usual Idiots Out Of The WikiWoodWork (BATUIOOTWWW) is the name (and the acronym) of the game.

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Daniel Brandt   Please AfD the Google_Watch article  
Alison   I'll look into it later today. It's alread...  
MZMcBride   I'll look into it later today. It's alrea...  
The Wales Hunter   I would do but I made the last nom and it would cr...  
Doc glasgow   I'm happy to nominate this, but I'm less s...  
Doc glasgow   Well, someone beat me to AfD it. Now, we can see w...  
Apathetic   It would really help the cause if banned users did...  
Doc glasgow   It would really help the cause if banned users di...  
Jon Awbrey   It would really help the cause if banned users di...  
Daniel Brandt   Well, thanks y'all, and I'll cross my fing...  
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Daniel Brandt' post='208371' date='F...  
Daniel Brandt   Funny you should ask that. Showing up at your pla...  
Alison   Funny you should ask that. Showing up at your pl...  
Daniel Brandt   Yeah, but you knew all that before you decided to...  
Trick cyclist   But now if he shows up, at least I'll know wh...  
thekohser   Looks like a nearly clean sweep on the Delete side...  
Alison   Looks like a nearly clean sweep on the [b]Delete ...  
Doc glasgow   Looks like a nearly clean sweep on the [b]Delete...  
Lar   [quote name='Alison' post='208403' date='Sat 5th ...  
Nerd   [quote name='Alison' post='208403' date='Sat 5th ...  
Doc glasgow   [quote name='Alison' post='208403' date='Sat 5th...  
Lar   You are an admin. Not really. The "Doc gl...  
Doc glasgow   [quote name='Doc glasgow' post='208430' date='Sat...  
MBisanz   [quote name='Lar' post='208450' date='Sat 5th Dec...  
Lar   [quote name='Lar' post='208450' date='Sat 5th De...  
MBisanz   [quote name='MBisanz' post='208470' date='Sat 5th...  
wjhonson   [quote name='Alison' post='208403' date='Sat 5th ...  
Sarcasticidealist   Perhaps we should allow Daniel himself to comment ...  
Milton Roe   Perhaps we should allow Daniel himself to comment...  
Viridae   Yeah, but you knew all that before you decided t...  
dtobias   "Harassment" is one of the most ridiculo...  
Tarc   Seems ridiculous, honestly. Looking through the s...  
Daniel Brandt   There are a couple of idiots trying to argue ...  
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Cyclopia   There are a couple of idiots trying to argue ...  
EricBarbour   [quote name='Daniel Brandt' post='209204' date='We...  
Tarc   Some guy just added a "Google for Dummies...  
Cyclopia   [quote name='Cyclopia' post='209287' date='Wed 9t...  
Daniel Brandt   The Google_Watch AfD was closed as a merge into Cr...  
Tarc   No purple box, looks like NuclearWafare already ad...  
Daniel Brandt   No purple box, looks like NuclearWafare already a...  
NuclearWarfare   [quote name='Tarc' post='209634' date='Fri 11th D...  
Daniel Brandt   Would you be OK with the page history being moved...  
Random832   Okay, now the purple box is gone, but Google_Watch...  
Daniel Brandt   Okay, now the purple box is gone, but Google_Watc...  
Random832   I notice that the NameBase article appears nowhere...  
Cimorene   No purple box, looks like NuclearWafare already [...  
Trick cyclist   So I can undo the merge? (Ducks)  
Daniel Brandt   So I can undo the merge? (Ducks) NuclearWarfare...  
Alison   NuclearWarfare should kill the redirect. In the A...  
NuclearWarfare   [quote name='Daniel Brandt' post='209735' date='S...  
EricBarbour   It's also gone to DRV (again), so don't ge...  
NuclearWarfare   [quote name='NuclearWarfare' post='209745' date='...  
Coffee   [quote name='NuclearWarfare' post='209745' date='...  
Trick cyclist   Hmm the only supports so far for deletion come fro...  
Alison   Hmm the only supports so far for deletion come fr...  
RMHED   Hmm the only supports so far for deletion come f...  
Alison   By the by shouldn't you be doing important ad...  
Cyclopia   Hmm the only supports so far for deletion come f...  
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Abd   Is there any medical study linking Wikipedia game...  
Daniel Brandt   [size=4]How many DRV's have involved me durin...  
RMHED   [size=4]How many DRV's have involved me duri...  
Daniel Brandt   Who gives a fuck? Aside from you of course and t...  
RMHED   [quote name='RMHED' post='209772' date='Sat 12th ...  
EricBarbour   Let it go, Daniel. He's probably just had a l...  
Daniel Brandt   Here are the visitors to the google-watch.org home...  
Doc glasgow   You are assuming all 32 weren't me and Alison ...  
Coffee   Sadly the attempts to take the redirect away, lost...  
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tarantino   And the continuing stoooooory; Kendrick7 waited ...  
Doc glasgow   And the continuing stoooooory; Kendrick7 waited...  
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Nerd   And onwards it goes yet again :( Today is clearl...  
Doc glasgow   [quote name='Alison' post='214646' date='Sun 10th...  
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Alison   So the Wikipedia Watch redirect that I speedy-dele...  
Nerd   So the Wikipedia Watch redirect that I speedy-del...  
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Alison   So the Wikipedia Watch redirect that I speedy-de...  
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