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| tarantino |
 Fri 19th October 2007, 2:55pm
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| GlassBeadGame |
Fri 19th October 2007, 3:12pm
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Fri 19th October 2007, 8:55am)  Oh well maybe next time, Jaranda. Feel free to drop in for the drama, but your welcome to stay for the critique. |
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| blissyu2 |
Fri 19th October 2007, 5:42pm
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 the wookie Group: On Vacation Posts: 4,596 Joined: Mon 27th Feb 2006, 12:14am From: Australia Member No.: 5 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
This time at least when the sysop powers were changed, it said it was Jaranda.
What's the point in changing names if everyone knows who you are? |
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| jorge |
Fri 19th October 2007, 6:59pm
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Postmaster Group: On Vacation Posts: 1,910 Joined: Tue 28th Feb 2006, 11:54am Member No.: 29 |
QUOTE(tarantino @ Fri 19th October 2007, 3:55pm) Isn't Jaranda a he (Jorge?). |
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| Jaranda |
Fri 19th October 2007, 8:02pm
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Member Group: Contributors Posts: 149 Joined: Wed 7th Jun 2006, 4:48am Member No.: 248 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
I got an email exposing who I was, my new account was too obvious, so I decided to tell the truth, and get my tools back. People almost never quit the project anyways, i know alot of editors who are under new accounts.
and im a he |
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| guy |
Fri 19th October 2007, 8:02pm
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Postmaster General Group: Inactive Posts: 4,294 Joined: Mon 27th Feb 2006, 8:52pm From: London Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE(jorge @ Fri 19th October 2007, 7:59pm) Isn't Jaranda a he (Jorge?). Yes, Jorge. And the resysop message said so. Incidentally, what evidence was needed to prove that it was the same account? |
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| blissyu2 |
Fri 19th October 2007, 8:06pm
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the wookie Group: On Vacation Posts: 4,596 Joined: Mon 27th Feb 2006, 12:14am From: Australia Member No.: 5 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(guy @ Sat 20th October 2007, 7:02am) QUOTE(jorge @ Fri 19th October 2007, 7:59pm) Isn't Jaranda a he (Jorge?). Yes, Jorge. And the resysop message said so. Incidentally, what evidence was needed to prove that it was the same account? Raul said so while resysopping him: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...User%3AJbeach56 Not to mention that they admit it themselves on their user page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jbeach56 |
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| Jaranda |
Fri 19th October 2007, 8:09pm
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Member Group: Contributors Posts: 149 Joined: Wed 7th Jun 2006, 4:48am Member No.: 248 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
and the wonders of IRC as well
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| blissyu2 |
Fri 19th October 2007, 8:10pm
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the wookie Group: On Vacation Posts: 4,596 Joined: Mon 27th Feb 2006, 12:14am From: Australia Member No.: 5 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
And Jaranda is a user here, so its unlikely that this is going to be a big deal.
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| everyking |
Fri 19th October 2007, 8:47pm
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Postmaster Group: Regulars Posts: 2,368 Joined: Mon 27th Mar 2006, 7:24am Member No.: 81 |
This is completely outrageous. Have they forgotten that Jaranda went out with an act of vandalism? Do they have any concerns whatsoever about a person with so little foresight and such a propensity towards overreacting? I figured he'd come back and get the tools back until I saw the vandalism; then I figured there's no way they'd be so irresponsible as to resysop him after that, but I was wrong. It's simply shameful. Jaranda used his admin tools to vandalize, and he is given the tools back on request.
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| blissyu2 |
Fri 19th October 2007, 11:14pm
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the wookie Group: On Vacation Posts: 4,596 Joined: Mon 27th Feb 2006, 12:14am From: Australia Member No.: 5 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
What vandalism?
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| everyking |
Fri 19th October 2007, 11:28pm
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Postmaster Group: Regulars Posts: 2,368 Joined: Mon 27th Mar 2006, 7:24am Member No.: 81 |
QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Sat 20th October 2007, 12:14am) What vandalism? He deleted the Mzoli's Meats article to ensure that he would be desysopped. |
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| Aloft |
Fri 19th October 2007, 11:29pm
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Please stop trying to cause trouble! Group: Regulars Posts: 322 Joined: Wed 26th Sep 2007, 5:40am Member No.: 3,239 |
QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Fri 19th October 2007, 11:14pm) What vandalism? 20:36, September 19, 2007 Jaranda (Talk | contribs) deleted "Mzoli's Meats" (to make sure I get desyropped) |
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| blissyu2 |
Sat 20th October 2007, 12:04am
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the wookie Group: On Vacation Posts: 4,596 Joined: Mon 27th Feb 2006, 12:14am From: Australia Member No.: 5 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
Okay, so Jaranda deleted an article that shouldn't have been deleted just so that he would get desysopped because he didn't want to be a sysop on a project that he didn't support.
He then quit, and was no longer a sysop. Then he apologised, and was reinstated. Now I don't know about anyone else, but I think that sometimes you need to try to prove a point. Sometimes people just don't get it unless you make things really clear. And sometimes that WP:POINT rule is manipulated just to try to make sure that the whole point you were trying to make is twisted around against you. Indeed, I have to question whether WP:POINT is ever a valid rule. Should Jaranda be reinstated as a sysop? Probably not. But then again, it probably doesn't hurt to have him back. |
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| michael |
Sat 20th October 2007, 12:05am
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Well, I must say, this did catch me completely off guard. I didn't think Jaranda was coming back after his last flourish.
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| Piperdown |
Sat 20th October 2007, 12:10am
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QUOTE(michael @ Sat 20th October 2007, 12:05am) Well, I must say, this did catch me completely off guard. I didn't think Jaranda was coming back after his last flourish. who was it that said that, on WP, submission is more important than truth? |
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| GlassBeadGame |
Sat 20th October 2007, 12:11am
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Dharma Bum Group: Contributors Posts: 7,919 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 12:55am From: My name it means nothing. My age it means less. The country I come from is called the Mid-West. Member No.: 981 |
I'm interested in Jaranda reasons for apologizing. He expressed a good deal of resistance and resolve in his posting here. I don't see where he over-reacted. I know quiting and unquiting is a pretty common occurrence on WP. Maybe Jaranda can explain what happened?
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| Jaranda |
Sat 20th October 2007, 2:17am
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Member Group: Contributors Posts: 149 Joined: Wed 7th Jun 2006, 4:48am Member No.: 248 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
I only apologized for deleting the article, that's because I acted like a fool, jimbo should apologize as well, even though i doubt he will, i'm avoiding jimbo anyways and I still don't think he's a good leader for the project, he lost his touch with the community and doesn't know ANYTHING what is going on in there.
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| everyking |
Sat 20th October 2007, 2:22am
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Postmaster Group: Regulars Posts: 2,368 Joined: Mon 27th Mar 2006, 7:24am Member No.: 81 |
QUOTE(Jaranda @ Sat 20th October 2007, 3:17am) I only apologized for deleting the article, that's because I acted like a fool, jimbo should apologize as well, even though i doubt he will, i'm avoiding jimbo anyways and I still don't think he's a good leader for the project, he lost his touch with the community and doesn't know ANYTHING what is going on in there. Credit is due for the apology. However, I think that the nature of your departure was such that you should undergo a new RfA. |
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| Viridae |
Sat 20th October 2007, 7:10am
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QUOTE(Jaranda @ Sat 20th October 2007, 12:17pm) I only apologized for deleting the article, that's because I acted like a fool, jimbo should apologize as well, even though i doubt he will, i'm avoiding jimbo anyways and I still don't think he's a good leader for the project, he lost his touch with the community and doesn't know ANYTHING what is going on in there. Completely agree with that one. |
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