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Posted by: Selina
Someone forwarded this to me:
"Neo-Nazi, Holocaust Denialist, IBM corporate PR-shill background on Wikipedia? http://wikipediareview.com/?showtopic=29418&view=findpost&p=234545"
Well, we've had an Intel shill...
Posted by: Web Fred
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 25th March 2012, 11:51pm)
Someone forwarded this to me:
Neo-Nazi, Holocaust Denialist, IBM corporate PR-shill background on Wikipedia?
http://wikipediareview.com/?showtopic=29418&view=findpost&p=234545
Well, we've had an Intel shill... Makes sense.
Yes, and?
The link to the actual article has been in my sig for months.
Posted by: Selina
So it's not meant to be ironic or anything like that, you're literally proud of being a holocaust denier?
Posted by: Web Fred
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 25th March 2012, 11:55pm)
So it's not meant to be ironic or anything like that, you're literally proud of being a holocaust denier?
Are you being serious?
Posted by: Alison
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 25th March 2012, 3:55pm)
So it's not meant to be ironic or anything like that, you're literally proud of being a holocaust denier?
I'd say he'll admit to whatever's expedient in generating the most drama and lulz; that's clearly why he's here. I'm not stirring trouble here, I'm just stating the obvious
QUOTE(Web Fred @ Sun 25th March 2012, 4:02pm)
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 25th March 2012, 11:55pm)
So it's not meant to be ironic or anything like that, you're literally proud of being a holocaust denier?
Are you being serious?
Are you? Like,
ever?
Posted by: Web Fred
QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 26th March 2012, 12:03am)
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 25th March 2012, 3:55pm)
So it's not meant to be ironic or anything like that, you're literally proud of being a holocaust denier?
I'd say he'll admit to whatever's expedient in generating the most drama and lulz; that's clearly why he's here. I'm not stirring trouble here, I'm just stating the obvious
I never lie, it's an Aspie thing.
At the time it was the lulz, the neo-nazi bit came from Black's Jewish chip on the shoulder.
Before making any more accusations, people should read the WP article talkpage, or wherever the hell I left my comments, I don't recall exactly where.
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QUOTE(Web Fred @ Sun 25th March 2012, 4:02pm)
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 25th March 2012, 11:55pm)
So it's not meant to be ironic or anything like that, you're literally proud of being a holocaust denier?
Are you being serious?
Are you? Like,
ever?
99% of the time, no. Seriousness is far too bad for my blood pressure, as the WR 3.0 thread is proving to be.
Anyway, I thought you'd buggered off, or is it your turn to troll?
Posted by: Selina
"Jewish chip on the shoulder"?
Oh god.
Posted by: Alison
QUOTE(Web Fred @ Sun 25th March 2012, 4:08pm)
I never lie, it's an Aspie thing.
At the time it was the lulz, the neo-nazi bit came from Black's Jewish chip on the shoulder.
I figured you were trolling all right ....
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QUOTE(Web Fred @ Sun 25th March 2012, 4:02pm)
Are you being serious?
Are you? Like,
ever?
99% of the time, no. Seriousness is far too bad for my blood pressure, as the WR 3.0 thread is proving to be.
Anyway, I thought you'd buggered off, or is it your turn to troll?
I'm five years here on WR, long before it was fashionable for the "other side" to hang out here. I'm just finding it hard to let go ... same with WP
Posted by: Web Fred
QUOTE(Selina @ Mon 26th March 2012, 12:11am)
"Jewish chip on the shoulder"?
Oh god.
Shouldn't that be a capital G?
I don't know about you, but I've never met a Jew who didn't have one, and I've met an awful lot of Jews.
I also don't worry about being politically correct about religion.
Personally I think anyone who belongs to any religion needs their fucking heads examining.
Posted by: Selina
I'm not religious... You should be able to figure that out not least from my posting if not userpage
But the issue with jewish people is it's mixed up by them being a race too, so genericising an entire race etc.. is well... Racism.
But that's a distraction as well, because the point is why you were trying to cover up IBM's role in knowingly supplying computers for the holocaust death camps, as well as denying that it happened? That very much makes it seem like it wasn't "just lulz" as you seem to be trying to make out...
Posted by: Web Fred
QUOTE(Selina @ Mon 26th March 2012, 12:26am)
I'm not religious... You should be able to figure that out not least from my posting if not userpage
I didn't say you were, or that you needed your head examining (well not for religion anyway).
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But the issue with jewish people is it's mixed up by them being a race too, so genericising an entire race etc.. is well... Racism.
No it isn't, and I do wish people, you included, knew the difference between racism and stereotyping.
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But that's a distraction as well, because the point is why you were trying to cover up IBM's role in knowingly supplying computers for the holocaust death camps, as well as denying that it happened? That very much makes it seem like it wasn't "just lulz" as you seem to be trying to make out...
If you'd read it and didn't just take Black's word for it. I was copyediting the article and Black was insisting on putting his own books in as reliable sources. Blaxthos and I stopped him because at that point there was nothing to show that his book was notable, not to mention the fact that there was CoI.
War history is not my strong point and I had no idea that IBM did what they did, and I'm still not convinced that things are as black and white as Black says (pardon the pun).
So no I'm not a Holocaust denier, but I am an Edwin Black denier, I denied him his chance at free advertising, and we all know how the Jews freak if they're held back from something free!
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 25th March 2012, 5:13pm)
I'm five years here on WR, long before it was fashionable for the "other side" to hang out here. I'm just finding it hard to let go ... same with WP
But you
are the other side.
QUOTE(Web Fred @ Sun 25th March 2012, 5:38pm)
So no I'm not a Holocaust denier, but I am an Edwin Black denier, I denied him his chance at free advertising, and we all know how the Jews freak if they're held back from something free!
Imagine that, the Holocaust denier needs remediation concerning racism.
Posted by: Web Fred
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Mon 26th March 2012, 12:46am)
Imagine that, the Holocaust denier needs remediation concerning racism.
Admit it, you have shares in Bacofoil don't you?
Posted by: Emperor
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sun 25th March 2012, 7:46pm)
QUOTE(Web Fred @ Sun 25th March 2012, 5:38pm)
So no I'm not a Holocaust denier, but I am an Edwin Black denier, I denied him his chance at free advertising, and we all know how the Jews freak if they're held back from something free!
Imagine that, the Holocaust denier needs remediation concerning racism.
It's good to have you back, man.