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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 17th March 2010, 5:23pm)  QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 17th March 2010, 10:30am) What bollocks. I absolutely refuse to believe that nobody believed in a "writable web" prior to the invention of wikis, if for no other reason than that I myself had the idea (even if I never implemented it) as far back as 1993. And if someone of my puny intellect had the idea, I'm sure others did too. I attended my first seminars on “Groupware†at U of M in 1985–1986, where research entrepreneurs from Business, Cognitive Psych, and EECS were building a joint co-lab for stuff like that, and they were a few years behind the MIT Media Lab. I'm hardly what anyone would call an early adopter when it it comes to any kind of technology, so I know that all this was probably already old hat by then. Jon (IMG: http://wikipediareview.com/stimg9x0b4fsr2/1/folder_post_icons/icon9.gif) |
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CPOV Listings …Patrick Lichty has been stressing his interest in wiki-based communities in general, a meta*perspective that naturally appeals to me. Here's a comment I posted in regard to that Big Picture POV — QUOTE Having participated in several wikioid start up projects before I ever heard of Wikipedia, and still participating in a wide variety of similar projects today, I share this point of view. The feature of social-technical architecture that most markedly distinguishes a wiki system is its "erasability". This is a major boon to people, like me, who never manage to write anything anywhere near the way it needs to be on the first 20 or 30 drafts or so. And its aid to collaboration is clear, at least, among folks who are capable of genuine dialogue in pursuing joint work. The point where erasability becomes a disabling bug in the groupware is when some participants in a debate discover that they can "win" arguments simply by deleting the opposing arguments. Once that happens, even a little, the people who resort to this type of easy win almost always become hopelessly addicted to it — it becomes an automatic reflex, often literally enforced by bots — inquiry is short-circuited and the "community" has to be protected by scare-quotes from then on out. — Jon Awbrey, 18 Mar 2010, CET 19:18
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CPOV Listings …I posted an update on the progress at the Magna Farta con-stitutional con-vention — QUOTE
CPOV Pilgrims who are following WikiPlex's Progress --
to wit, its "foundering" attempts to up-date itself
to the Year 1215 -- will find that a portion of the
action has shifted to the scenes of Meta-Wiki-Medea:
meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Remove_Founder_flag
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I suppose we should start a pool on when the purges of e-ristocrats will commence — but positive numbers only, no fair counting pre-purgees … Jon (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Mon 31st May 2010, 10:48am) QUOTE The good of a concept or a term of description, more or less following Kant and Peirce, is that it unifies a manifold of sense impressions. As it happens, my work on social and technical means of facilitating inquiry led me to study the factors that "block inquiry", in other words, that inhibit critical reflective thinking, long before I ever encountered the worldview of the Wikipedian true believer. One of the telltale signs of a closed belief system that I kept noticing was one that I dubbed the "cul-de-sac" — rhymes with "cultist act". This is any plank of a belief platform that keeps those who stand on it from reflecting critically on its fundamental structures and evaluating their suitability for the espoused common purpose. For my part, I am skeptical of the hypothesis that "Peter Damian" asserted to lead off that sample thread — I don't think I'd trace every deleterious effect of the Wikipedia Complex to a single mad belief — but I can see some sense in trying to unify the manifold of otherwise senseless impressions. Jon Awbrey, 31 May 2010 |
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 2nd June 2010, 9:46am) CPOV Listings …Juliana Brunello posted notice of last March's First Monday article by Vasilis Kostakis, based in part on interviews with a couple of our local lights, and asked for reflections on the theme of “Transparencyâ€. Jon (IMG: http://wikipediareview.com/stimg9x0b4fsr2/1/folder_post_icons/icon9.gif) I have of course written — as most WReviewers have — till I'm blue in the phalanges on this particular subject, so here is all I could work up the joules to say at this late date: QUOTE One of the founding ideals of the wiki paradigm was akin to what W.S. Burroughs called the “Naked Lunchâ€, where everyone would be able to see exactly what was on everyone else's fork. Wikipedia has strayed so far from that ideal that it no longer makes sense to refer to the WMF+WP+Wikia+PM+IRC+SecretMailingLists+WhoWitsWhat system as a "wiki" at all. There is chamber upon chamber and storey upon storey of smoke-filled rooms that no faint body of researchers will ever be able to bring to light in a decade of digging and probing. Jon Awbrey, 02 June 2010 |
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