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_ News Worth Discussing _ Vatican uses Wikipedia to compile cardinals' biographies - The Guardian

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Its ancient library holds more than 180000 manuscripts and 1.6m books, and it describes its Secret Archive, which packs priceless documents on to 85km of shelving, as "one of the most important research centres in the world". ...

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Posted by: thekohser

Another case of an organization being publicly humiliated for its use of Wikipedia.

Eventually, most sensible organizations will learn to not even go near Wikipedia.

Posted by: EricBarbour

All the more reason to put out a well-sourced book full of Wikipedia's biases, yes?

Posted by: Ottava

I saw Wikipedia and the Vatican and I was afraid there was a sex scandal involving Commons. Thankfully, it was only people not understanding that Wikipedia Is Not a Reliable Source. Phew.

Posted by: mbz1

QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 9th January 2012, 4:13am) *

I saw Wikipedia and the Vatican and I was afraid there was a sex scandal involving Commons. Thankfully, it was only people not understanding that Wikipedia Is Not a Reliable Source. Phew.

Even, if it were so, who cares? Commons and Vatican worth each other. A few users on Commons do not let to add a category anti-Semitic picture to anti-Semitic garbage that Commons hosts, and in Vatican the current Pope stated:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/world/europe/16pope.html?ref=world
In both places Tyranny of the Ignorant wins.

Posted by: Fusion

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 10th January 2012, 4:35am) *

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The church at the time was much more faithful to reason than Galileo himself, and also took into consideration the ethical and social consequences of Galileo’s doctrine. Its verdict against Galileo was rational and just.
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In both places Tyranny of the Ignorant wins.

Actually the Pope was not as wrong as you might think. There was a lot wrong with Galileo's arguments even if most of his conclusions were right. Did you know he rejected Kepler's correct guess that the tides were due to the force of the Sun and Moon, and invented a nonsense theory of tides which he then cited as "proof" of the Copernican theory?

Posted by: lonza leggiera

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 10th January 2012, 3:35pm) *

.... in Vatican the current Pope stated:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/world/europe/16pope.html?ref=world
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No, the Pope didn't say that. As the NY Times article indicates, he was quoting the philosopher Paul Feyerabend as having said it, which is not quite the same thing. Contrary to the misinformation fed to the rabble protesting at La Sapienza university, there was no indication whatever in Ratzinger's speech—not, at least, in the version which appeared in print—that he was in any way endorsing Feyerabend's opinion. In fact, after quoting Feyerabend and several other philosophers and scientists as supposedly illustrating a secular "crisis of faith in science", he continued with the remark "It would be foolish to construct an impulsive apologetic on the basis of such views".