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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 6:13am) He appears to be the latest to join the meltdown parade, perhaps in sympathy with his old buddy SlimVirgin. True to form, he reacts by suggesting that Jimbo, the ArbCom, and Wikipedians of all persuasions are a bunch of Nazis. Ever the diplomat, Chip also unloads on GeorgeWilliamHerbert, the blocking admin, who is probably generally on Chip's side. A request by another admin to unblock is quickly and appropriately denied: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=227341010
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 22nd July 2008, 11:13pm) He appears to be the latest to join the meltdown parade, perhaps in sympathy with his old buddy SlimVirgin. True to form, he reacts by suggesting that Jimbo, the ArbCom, and Wikipedians of all persuasions are a bunch of Nazis.
Umm, that's been Chip's major social and literary "trick" for his whole life, as somebody has already pointed out. Pretty much the same way SV decides that anybody who disagrees with her must be a troll or stalker. And yeah, it's a general form of total fundamentalist closed-mindedness. It was said of Oppenheimer's nemesis Louis Straus, that if you disagreed with him politically, he would patiently explain his position to you again, on grounds that you must not have understood him the first time. If you continued to disagree, he would assume you must be a traitor. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Thu 24th July 2008, 10:31am) But it was Mussolini who (supposedly) made the trains run on time. No kidding - as somebody who's visited Germany a couple of times and spent more than three years dating a German, the real accomplishment would be delaying a German train. Conductor's head would probably explode. Steve Smith Adding no value to WR threads Since 2008
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Thu 24th July 2008, 10:31am) But it was Mussolini who (supposedly) made the trains run on time. People seem to be confusing Italian Fascism with German Nazism.
Not "people"-- Chip Berlet. He's been causing problems in the fascism articles, since he really doesn't know anything about fascism (political philosophy of Mussolini). All he knows is that it's bad, associated with the axis in WW II and thus with Hitler, and thus must be politically similar. It doesn't help that Hitler and Mussolini helped each other out in WW II, but that was some time after the initial statement of fascism by Mussolini. Hitler called Mussolini "my teacher" for showing him how to construct an authoritarian state. But the idiologies for WHY one would want to do such a thing, were originally quite different. Mussolini's ideas, which came well before German Socialism, are not particularly Nazi-like. Unless you group any political system in which the state plays a heavy hand as "politically similar." But then you can't tell left from right, and you're really on a libertarianism vs. everybody else scale. That's the famous Nolan axis, which measures personal freedom, and is orthogonal to the usual Left/Right scale. Anyway, to understand Mussolini, you actually have to read Mussolini, which Berlet appears unwilling to do. In the early days, Mussolini has some complementary things to say about Jews, for example. It was only when WW II got his cookies in the fire and he was forced to rely on German military help, that the Italian fascists began to support the German extermination programs. They didn't start out that way, with racism as a core of their political philosophy, which of course the Nazis did.
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