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> Effectiveness of checkuser
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I'm working on a document that is a detailed and point by point comment on WMUK's submission to the charity commission, July and September 2011. Note this is not public yet, as 'dogbiscuit' got access to a copy privately via FOI. The document (which I strongly believe was written by our friend 'Fae') contains many misleading or downright inaccurate claims.

Section 13.3.8 of the submission says ""There is also “CheckUser” software that enables a small number of selected and vetted volunteers to establish, in many cases, whether two editors are from the same ISP, and often where that ISP is located. This information is mostly used to detect blocked editors who try to return under a different account name. "

My experience of checkuser is that it is almost completely ineffective as a control over determined, intelligent users, and that evaders are usually caught out by stupidity or carelessness, rather than by the software itself. Examples are the easily availability of dynamic IPs (such as my own service provider, who kindly change my IP daily), the availability of 'hot spots' (public wifi networks), internet cafes, use of proxies.

Any other ideas to contribute to this section? I would be particularly interested in narratives or stories from experienced evaders.

As always, my email is edward at logicmuseum.com.

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thekohser   It sounds like you've about got it covered, ho...  
Peter Damian   It sounds like you've about got it covered, h...  
melloden   [quote name='thekohser' post='292132' date='Sat 3...  
Peter Damian   [quote name='thekohser' post='292132' date='Sat ...  
melloden   [quote name='melloden' post='292135' date='Sat 31...  
Fusion   It sounds like you've about got it covered, h...  
SB_Johnny   And Checkusers may claim a match when the IPs are ...  
Vigilant   And Checkusers may claim a match when the IPs are...  
Fusion   [quote name='Fusion' post='292165' date='Sat 31st...  
SB_Johnny   [quote name='Fusion' post='292165' date='Sat 31s...  
gomi   Reasonably intelligent CUs ... :wtf: ... wouldn...  
SB_Johnny   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='292224' date='Sun 1...  
Fusion   on the other projects they're elected accordi...  
Vigilant   I'm working on a document that is a detailed ...  
Peter Damian   There are many, many devices that allow for easy ...  
Vigilant   [quote name='Vigilant' post='292139' date='Sat 31...  
Peter Damian   [quote name='Vigilant' post='292139' date='Sat 3...  
Vigilant   [quote name='Vigilant' post='292142' date='Sat 31...  
Peter Damian   I hope you're referring to Kelly's catch ...  
Kelly Martin   The way British ISPs operate makes it difficult to...  
No one of consequence   Checkuser can and will catch naive attempts to co...  
dogbiscuit   Don't get too excited about this. The CC will ...  
Peter Damian   Don't get too excited about this. The CC will...  
Kelly Martin   Indeed, I would argue that checkuser is actually o...  
Peter Damian   This is of no concern to the UKCC; Yes it is. ...  
Vigilant   This is of no concern to the UKCC; Yes it is....  
lilburne   This is of no concern to the UKCC; Yes it is....  
SB_Johnny   Indeed, I would argue that checkuser is actually ...  
No one of consequence   Aside from the WP CUs (who use it politically), m...  
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='292164' date='Sat 3...  
Kelly Martin   Does checkuser compare password hashes? (i'm a...  
EricBarbour   Jclemens and Versageek don't have a creation ...  
TungstenCarbide   Does checkuser compare password hashes? (i'm ...  
TheKartingWikipedian   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='292203' date='Su...  
TungstenCarbide   The fact is, passwords are considered sacrosanct b...  
Kelly Martin   Yes, interesting. I always considered that if they...  
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='TheKartingWikipedian' post='292207' ...  
Kelly Martin   so what's this (I'm not a programmer); htt...  
TungstenCarbide   Interestingly, the list of my "suspected...  
gomi   There have been many, many discussions here on WR ...  
EricBarbour   Don't forget the time Arbcom yanked away David...  
Kelly Martin   I think the main point to take away from this thre...  
EricBarbour   You guys need an example of checkuser crap? What a...  
melloden   You guys need an example of checkuser crap? What ...  
Kelly Martin   Wikinews is more of a mafia than Wikipedia. Anyone...  
Vigilant   Wikinews is more of a mafia than Wikipedia. Anyon...  
Kelly Martin   What control/responsibility does the WMF have to t...  
EricBarbour   There are doubtlessly more such stories out there...  
melloden   There are doubtlessly more such stories out there...  


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