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I'm blogging about Wikimedia stewards. Does anyone have any good steward stories?

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Mike, I knew you wouldn't have the mental capacity to listen.

As I said, my feathers get ruffled when you and others use anonymity as a shield to attack other people who use real names. If you want to be anonymous while you mop the floor and whistle a happy tune, that doesn't really bother me at all.

The rest of this WR community will carry on ignoring your petty squabbling and stabbing, and I shall join them. Keep it up enough and hopefully this account of yours will be shown the door, and you can pick up with one of your other accounts here.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 7th April 2011, 12:07pm) *

[Funny tirade].

Firstly, if, as you believe, you know my real name, in what way am I anonymous? Secondly, why do you assume that everyone you don't like - Lilburne, Beloved Fox, RMHED, powercorrupts, Zoloft., etc - is the same person? (Oh, I can answer that - you picked that habit up from being a WP checkuser.) Thirdly, why is it OK for you to have anonymous accounts on WP but not for others to? Fourthly, I wasn't clear if you are saying that it's OK for admins on WP to be anonymous while they mop the floor and whistle a happy tune. Daniel Brandt may disagree.

Fifthly, let's get this absolutely clear. Is it the case that if a person - especially an admin - you deem anonymous goes out on a limb to help you, then the correct response is to spit in their face solely because they are anonymous?
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QUOTE(Gruntled @ Fri 8th April 2011, 8:05am) *

[Sputtering rebuttal that lacked any basis in logic.]


[Logical counter-argument that would make sense to most normal human beings, but not cross-dressing statisticians in the London area.]
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 8th April 2011, 6:42am) *

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I never understood why Adambro removed content from this page and called it vandalism.

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QUOTE(JWSchmidt @ Fri 8th April 2011, 6:11pm) *

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I never understood why Adambro removed content from this page and called it vandalism.

-John Schmidt

Did you consider maybe asking poetlister? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif)

I know what was deleted and why, and it's frankly none of your business. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Mon 11th April 2011, 2:17pm) *

it's frankly none of your business. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)


What I expect to hear from a sysop who calls good faith edits "vandalism".

Jimbo dun learned these boys good how to falsify log entries.

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QUOTE(JWSchmidt @ Tue 12th April 2011, 4:18pm) *
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Mon 11th April 2011, 2:17pm) *
it's frankly none of your business. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)
What I expect to hear from a sysop who calls good faith edits "vandalism".

Jimbo dun learned these boys good how to falsify log entries.

This can, and will, go on forever. Jimbo is almost totally irrelevant now, as to Wikiversity (and all this is about Wikiversity, really).

"Falsification of log entries" is JWS-speak for a log entry or edit summary that JWS thinks is wrong. Adambro, in another place, used rollback to remove a JWS edit from the top of a Wikiversity policy page, which was, indeed, vandalism. That is, an edit which defaces the page, subverting it from its purpose, to make a political point. JWS made a huge stink about "rollback is only for vandalism," which counts as a peak example of pure wikilawyering, since the exact tool used to revert an edit is about as significant as bird poop.

Rollback is discouraged from use for non-vandalism because it leaves behind a single, non-explanatory edit summary, and rollback guidelines deprecate this. But when the reason for the reversion is patently clear, there is no need for a detailed edit summary. The substance of the policy is satisfied, if not the letter. Yet JWS has repeated this argument, and has given the example, God knows how many times.

It's all about him, I agree with SBJ.

It is possible for there to be "good faith vandalism." That's the missing element in JWS' logic.

I wish the extent of administrative abuse were making incorrect edit summaries! But sometimes these summaries that JWS complains about aren't clearly incorrect, and the making of "correct edit summaries" isn't the goal of editorial work, it's merely a support for part of it. It is difficult or cumbersome to correct edit summaries, and if they were that important, that would be fixed.

And if an edit is made in a place where it is obviously inappropriate, where it will definitely be reverted, and the editor knows this and has no overriding policy reason to make the edit, that's a form of vandalism

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