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After months of speculation on MBisanz' page, official candidacies are being accepted, and will be for the next two weeks. Standing candidates (scroll up for table of contents). Privatemusings is the first to cross form "likely" to actual candidacy.

Hopefully there will be some good dark horses.

Jdforrester has an interesting statement that concludes, "I do not expect to be given the community's support; nevertheless, I ask it, and welcome any and all questions."

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Does anyone have any information about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=235198954

I mean the jury stuff, not that I think it would work, but just wonder why this was not brought on WR. Have I missed something?
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QUOTE(One @ Mon 10th November 2008, 10:34am) *

Hopefully there will be some good dark horses.

Apart from James F, who I could not imagine would run (then again, he seems to acknowledge how likely he is to be successful), there are no surprises so far.
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QUOTE(One @ Mon 10th November 2008, 1:34am) *

After months of speculation on MBisanz' page, official candidacies are being accepted, and will be for the next two weeks. Standing candidate (scroll up for table of contents). Privatemusings is the first to cross form "likely" to actual candidacy. Hopefully there will be some good dark horses.

Jdforrester has an interesting statement that concludes, "I do not expect to be given the community's support; nevertheless, I ask it, and welcome any and all questions."


It's funny how he welcomes questions now, but throughout his ArbCom career he has been almost totally unresponsive. One question that springs to mind for me is: "Would you accept appointment by Jimbo if you were not one of the top candidates (that is, someone else was passed over so that you could be appointed)?" Actually, that's a good question for all ArbCom candidates, but I dare not ask it lest I be accused of not having adequately informed myself before commenting.
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Well.. here goes.... Wish me luck :/
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QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Mon 10th November 2008, 12:47pm) *

Well.. here goes.... Wish me luck :/


Good luck. As certain of us are prevented from asking you the same questions on-wiki, would you be prepared to answer any questions here? What for example is your view of a regens arbitrator contributing to Wikipedia Review at all? What is your view on FT2's question about the delicate balance between the need for some decisions to be made in private, and the need for transparency?
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Well, I've thrown my hat in the ring now, although Bishzilla is right beneath me, which is scary.
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 10th November 2008, 7:59am) *

QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Mon 10th November 2008, 12:47pm) *

Well.. here goes.... Wish me luck :/


Good luck. As certain of us are prevented from asking you the same questions on-wiki, would you be prepared to answer any questions here? What for example is your view of a regens arbitrator contributing to Wikipedia Review at all? What is your view on FT2's question about the delicate balance between the need for some decisions to be made in private, and the need for transparency?


I'm willing to answer questions.

A) I don't see any problem with contributing to WR and being a sitting arbitrator. Brad and others before me have done so in the past. I may be restricted on what I CAN say, (don't expect me to even HINT about private discussions on the ArbCom list), but I won't let it run me off of WP OR WR.

B ) I think it really has to happen on a case by case basis. There has to be a really good reason to take a case private (I understand why ArbCom discussion should be and is private), but I think you can strike a balance between stating what you believe publicly, and keeping what the COMMITTEE is discussing private.

And Neil: don't worry, it's scarier below Bishzilla then above. Above you have to worry only about Bishzilla's atomic breath.. below.. if she falls.. *shudder* we go squit like a pimple (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

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Would there be any value in as many people throwing their hats in the ring as possible in order to dilute the vote, and then perhaps getting someone "unusual" elected?

I really do hope The Fat Man Who Never Comes Back does stand - he'll be a populist pick of sorts, and his sense of humour would appeal.

He also has an ability to see Arbcom for what is is, and to cut through the waffle to make his point.
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I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be interesting to see if there is a showdown between he and jimbo if he wins.

Regardless, he has good ideas and I think he'd do well on the committee.
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QUOTE(KStreetSlave @ Mon 10th November 2008, 7:18pm) *

I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be interesting to see if there is a showdown between he and jimbo if he wins.

Regardless, he has good ideas and I think he'd do well on the committee.

While I agree with your about some of his ideas, I think you're being more optimistic than privatemusings himself is. His comments make clear that he expects to lose.

At this point, I think Bishzilla is likely to receive less opposition votes (especially if users follow privatemusings wishes and only oppose him).

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QUOTE(KStreetSlave @ Mon 10th November 2008, 7:18pm) *

I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be interesting to see if there is a showdown between he and jimbo if he wins.

Regardless, he has good ideas and I think he'd do well on the committee.


What is this RFC about, by the way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req.../Privatemusings

It doesn't seem very good for him but then nothing is as it seems over there.
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QUOTE(One @ Mon 10th November 2008, 2:50pm) *

QUOTE(KStreetSlave @ Mon 10th November 2008, 7:18pm) *

I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be interesting to see if there is a showdown between he and jimbo if he wins.

Regardless, he has good ideas and I think he'd do well on the committee.

While I agree with your about some of his ideas, I think you're being more optimistic than privatemusings himself is. His comments make clear that he expects to lose.

At this point, I think Bishzilla is likely to receive less opposition votes (especially if users follow privatemusings wishes and only oppose him).


I didn't say I expect him to win. I just hope he does.

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QUOTE(KStreetSlave @ Mon 10th November 2008, 7:18pm) *

I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be interesting to see if there is a showdown between he and jimbo if he wins.

Regardless, he has good ideas and I think he'd do well on the committee.


What is this RFC about, by the way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req.../Privatemusings

It doesn't seem very good for him but then nothing is as it seems over there.


Looks to me like a sabotage attempt on PM. The timing is impeccable, and the players are right.
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QUOTE(KStreetSlave @ Mon 10th November 2008, 9:20pm) *

Looks to me like a sabotage attempt on PM. The timing is impeccable, and the players are right.

Can you unpack this for me?

First, what is being sabotaged? His ArbCom sanctions probably sunk his ArbCom candidacy before it started, if that's what you mean.

Second, what players? There seems to be commentary a very broad spectrum of users here.
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His bid for arbcom is being sabotaged. Or rather, it looks that way. It's convenient that the RFC was brought up right before the nominations begin, over what doesn't look to be that serious of an issue. And notably it was an RFC, which I firmly believe does nothing but smear the parties involved without any outcome. Were it an Arbitration, and PM won, he could point to that and say "I was vindicated." Not so easy with an RFC. (thats not to say that the sanctions didn't do the job just as well).

As for the players, I see a number of people who are either on the arbitration committee, are interested in getting on it, have some sort of user rights granted by the arbitration committee, or are interested in getting those user rights.

I could be wrong, he could entirely deserve it. But it seems to me that for many of the RFC commentators, ulterior motives are at play.

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Hey, look! White cat is in the running! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arb...ments#White_Cat

I guess last year wasn't bad enough: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arb.../Vote/White_Cat

So who's going to do worse? White Cat or Privatemusings? Or Justice America? I don't really care who wins - I mean, I do care, but I care more that people who aren't competent or disagree with my principles don't get on. In other words, I'd easily take more than five of the folks who have already submitted their names, and aside from Rlevse, I'm not hell-bent on any of them. But for entertainment value, picking up the bottom of the barrel should be fun.
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Could SirFozzie, Neil, and anyone else running please answer the question I presented above?
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QUOTE(One @ Mon 10th November 2008, 1:34am) *

After months of speculation on MBisanz' page, official candidacies are being accepted, and will be for the next two weeks.
Hopefully there will be some good dark horses.
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Question 14 is interesting; do study the answers the candidates makes.
And yes; Everyking asks a very relevant question, too. Will somebody brave add that question to all candidates?
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QUOTE(everyking @ Mon 10th November 2008, 7:39pm) *

Could SirFozzie, Neil, and anyone else running please answer the question I presented above?

Would you accept appointment from Jimbo against the community mandate? That's a great question. Anyone who answers "yes" can't expect community support, but I don't expect everyone to answer the question.
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QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Mon 10th November 2008, 10:08am) *

I'm willing to answer questions.

Why would anyone want to be a member of ARBCOM?

In my county we have this superior court judge who is like the `ringer' of judges in the entire state. He gets all the hard/sensational cases. A reporter once asked him "How does it feel to rule on all these important cases"? He answered "Very sad; all my cases are very sad".



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