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> It's that time again!, Time for 2011 arbcom elections.
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:00pm
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I agree with the thoughts on Panyd.

DQ has his moments it seems, but of the three non-admins he has the best shot. Though when it comes to arbcom, you need to be an admin according to the voters.

Maxim probably has the best shot if you ask me of the non-functionaries.

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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:14pm
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I wonder what are the reasons people are running for govcom.
I mean it takes tremendous amount of time to be a member of govcom.

So people are running for gogcom because:

1. They want more power.
2. They hope to be offered a job with WMF.
3. They like to be in a middle of every wikipedia drama.
4. They hope to have some paid travel and dining.
5. They are genuinely interested in helping users to resolve disputes.
6. They want their names written in wikipedia history in the golden letters.
Any more choices?

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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:22pm
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 11:14am) *

I wonder what are the reasons people are running for govcom.

I wonder why this whole thread isn't in the annex. dry.gif
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:39pm
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:22pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 11:14am) *

I wonder what are the reasons people are running for govcom.

I wonder why this whole thread isn't in the annex. dry.gif

This is an easy one.
This whole thread is not in the annex because WR has another place for such threads:
The Wikipedia Review > Wikimedia Discussion > Bureaucracy > ArbCom Elections biggrin.gif
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 5:50pm
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 11:39am) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:22pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 11:14am) *

I wonder what are the reasons people are running for govcom.

I wonder why this whole thread isn't in the annex. dry.gif

This is an easy one.
This whole thread is not in the annex because WR has another place for such threads:
The Wikipedia Review > Wikimedia Discussion > Bureaucracy > ArbCom Elections biggrin.gif

I see. well, maybe the whole forum then.
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 6:41pm
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QUOTE(that one guy @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 9:49am) *

Final list:
1 AGK (CU/OS, AUSC Member)
2 Coren (i)
3 Courcelles (CU/OS, AUSC Member)
4 DeltaQuad (Former Admin)
5 Eluchil404
6 Geni
7 Hersfold (CU/OS, Former Arb)
8 Hot Stop (Non-Admin)
9 Jclemens (i)
10 Kirill Lokshin (i)
11 Kww
12 Maxim (Crat)
13 NWA.Rep (Non-Admin)
14 Panyd
15 Risker (i)
16 Roger Davies (i)
17 SilkTork
18 Worm That Turned


Does "(i)" stand for "idiot"? blink.gif

I think that Panyd is opening herself up for a lot of health-crushing grief - not only for her own medical problems, but because Lord Nelson is also an Arb and there will be accusations of tag-team voting. I am sort of surprised to see her on the list.

Roger Davies is a plagiarist and Risker is Wikipedia's answer to Betty White (except that she's not funny). Coren is a great role model for kids. The others are interchangeable.

QUOTE(that one guy @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 9:49am) *

Cool Hand Luke, John Vandenberg, and Mailer Diablo are the only sitting arbs that aren't running again.


Now that's good news!

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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 6:48pm
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Anyone see this= "Hersfold... Former arb. Resigning early on when he knew he wouldn't be of help showed he had clue."

From Wizardman. Ouch. Wizardman was the guy who approved over 20 Good Article Nominations on Simpson articles that clearly plagiarized from the Simpson's Wiki, and, when this was pointed out, shrugged and said it wasn't important. This was in addition to having some of his own issues with just copying and pasting language on his own articles in addition to having all sorts of strange problems regarding his decisions on matters.

Of course, the insult is deemed appropriate and not incivil because Wizardman is part of the group, right?

It is rather interesting how he attacks Coren and Jclemens, former allies of his. His support of Kirill and Risker are obvious, because there was a connection there. His support of AGK and Courcelles is a little odd (tons of problems have been pointed out about those two, especially with Courcelles "obvious restart account" status).

But yeah, from what other Arbs have told me, Wizardman was one of the defenders of Moreschi, even though Wizardman had proof that Moreschi was emailing people my personal information all around and other things to harass me. Wonderful stuff. This was while he was telling me on IRC that he was going to deal with Moreschi and make sure he would stop.
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 7:22pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 1:41pm) *

Does "(i)" stand for "idiot"? blink.gif


It stands for incumbent.
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 7:50pm
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 2:22pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 1:41pm) *

Does "(i)" stand for "idiot"? blink.gif

It stands for incumbent.

Same difference, perhaps. Clearly one of you two is also an idiot... should we start a poll on that? rolleyes.gif
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 8:32pm
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Banned still means banned.

(what an awful phrase).

Anyway. I see two people on there I can support, Kirill and this NWA.Rep fellah. Two other neutrals. Other than that it's a straight up Oppose at this point.

On Panyd, she does seem like a very nice person and yeah, the main concern is whether she should really be subjected to the ArbCom. But I guess that by putting her name in there she's saying she wants it. I dunno.

Hersfold, whatever else is there, says that he left because he got busy being an residential assistant at his college but he won't do that again because he's now got a real job. How in the world does that make sense? If you didn't have time to goof off in college, you shouldn't have time to goof off with a real job.

Maxim seems alright. He's one of the neutrals right now, still thinking about it and will have to look more into him.

It is a totally bland list. For like ten minutes there I thought about throwing in my name, making a crazy statement (I have lots of advice I can offer ArbCom on how to handle leaked seekret mailing lists!), then withdrawing ten minutes before voting commences. Then I decided I didn't want the attention.

Edit: Ugh, after reading Kwww's statement and responses a bit more carefully I might "strategically vote" support for a few others just to make sure he doesn't get on there.

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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 8:48pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 1:16am) *

How charming. They've got FIVE of their most disgusting patrollers -- AGK, Courcelles, DeltaQuad,
Geni, Hersfold -- running for Arbcom. Plus four people who do nothing but use Wikipedia as a
private Facebook. The remainder are gnomes who use bots to mess with formatting (SilkTork included).
Very few of the candidates have actually written and finished any articles.

It's broken, the whole thing is fucked. That's all I can say.


I've made this page of the very secret wiki public. http://www.logicmuseum.com/x/index.php?tit...diting_patterns

There is an explanation of the table, but for starters, try sorting by 'A total', ascending order which shows how many of the editor's last 5,000 odd edits were in article space. You will recognise a few names there.

It is also interesting to sort descending by 'U total' (gasbags) or 'W total' (machiavellians).

'A max' is a measure of 'focused editing'. The higher the number, the more the editor is likely to be a 'content creator'. The lower, the more they perform mindless and repetitive tasks of the sort that equates to unskilled labour in the real world.
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 9:19pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 2:48pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 1:16am) *

How charming. They've got FIVE of their most disgusting patrollers -- AGK, Courcelles, DeltaQuad,
Geni, Hersfold -- running for Arbcom. Plus four people who do nothing but use Wikipedia as a
private Facebook. The remainder are gnomes who use bots to mess with formatting (SilkTork included).
Very few of the candidates have actually written and finished any articles.

It's broken, the whole thing is fucked. That's all I can say.


I've made this page of the very secret wiki public. http://www.logicmuseum.com/x/index.php?tit...diting_patterns

There is an explanation of the table, but for starters, try sorting by 'A total', ascending order which shows how many of the editor's last 5,000 odd edits were in article space. You will recognise a few names there.

It is also interesting to sort descending by 'U total' (gasbags) or 'W total' (machiavellians).

'A max' is a measure of 'focused editing'. The higher the number, the more the editor is likely to be a 'content creator'. The lower, the more they perform mindless and repetitive tasks of the sort that equates to unskilled labour in the real world.


Can we get these numbers for the other candidates who didn't make the original list? Also, I think just taking soxred % and multiplying should give you something close (though that's total edits, not last 5000). I tried it for Hersfold and Geni and it comes out pretty close though not exactly the same.
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 9:21pm
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QUOTE(radek @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 9:19pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 2:48pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 1:16am) *

How charming. They've got FIVE of their most disgusting patrollers -- AGK, Courcelles, DeltaQuad,
Geni, Hersfold -- running for Arbcom. Plus four people who do nothing but use Wikipedia as a
private Facebook. The remainder are gnomes who use bots to mess with formatting (SilkTork included).
Very few of the candidates have actually written and finished any articles.

It's broken, the whole thing is fucked. That's all I can say.


I've made this page of the very secret wiki public. http://www.logicmuseum.com/x/index.php?tit...diting_patterns

There is an explanation of the table, but for starters, try sorting by 'A total', ascending order which shows how many of the editor's last 5,000 odd edits were in article space. You will recognise a few names there.

It is also interesting to sort descending by 'U total' (gasbags) or 'W total' (machiavellians).

'A max' is a measure of 'focused editing'. The higher the number, the more the editor is likely to be a 'content creator'. The lower, the more they perform mindless and repetitive tasks of the sort that equates to unskilled labour in the real world.


Can we get these numbers for the other candidates who didn't make the original list? Also, I think just taking soxred % and multiplying should give you something close (though that's total edits, not last 5000). I tried it for Hersfold and Geni and it comes out pretty close though not exactly the same.


It will have to wait until end of the week, as I am off on a jolly jaunt until then. But, yes.
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 2:50pm) *

Same difference, perhaps. Clearly one of you two is also an idiot... should we start a poll on that? rolleyes.gif


Speaking of polls, did Piotrus ever get his adminship back? ermm.gif
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 9:29pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 3:25pm) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 2:50pm) *

Same difference, perhaps. Clearly one of you two is also an idiot... should we start a poll on that? rolleyes.gif


Speaking of polls, did Piotrus ever get his adminship back? ermm.gif

Doesn't look like it.
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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 9:47pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 7:47am) *

QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 3:18pm) *

I was under the impression that DeltaQuad was a child.
DeltaQuad is young, but likely over 18. Gratuitous outing link number one & number two.

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post Tue 22nd November 2011, 10:02pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 3:25pm) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 2:50pm) *

Same difference, perhaps. Clearly one of you two is also an idiot... should we start a poll on that? rolleyes.gif


Speaking of polls, did Piotrus ever get his adminship back? ermm.gif


Nah, he didn't try. And honestly, I'm not sure it matters that much. He should've run for ArbCom though.
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:47pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 7:47am) *

QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 3:18pm) *

I was under the impression that DeltaQuad was a child.
DeltaQuad is young, but likely over 18. Gratuitous outing link number one & number two.

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Volunteer - Administrator and Support Teams - Wikimedia Foundation
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Would you like fries with your smotherbox?


It's really too sad. I wonder if there's any reason to be concerned that a prolific Wikipedian is trying to work privately, one-on-one with minors who are a few years younger than him? I mean, not that anything bad could happen.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 10:41pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:47pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 7:47am) *

QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 3:18pm) *

I was under the impression that DeltaQuad was a child.
DeltaQuad is young, but likely over 18. Gratuitous outing link number one & number two.

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Qualification
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Employee - McDonalds
Volunteer - Administrator and Support Teams - Wikimedia Foundation
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Would you like fries with your smotherbox?


It's really too sad. I wonder if there's any reason to be concerned that a prolific Wikipedian is trying to work privately, one-on-one with minors who are a few years younger than him? I mean, not that anything bad could happen.

Harsh Greg, harsh.

You middle aged grouch.
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 4:47pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 7:47am) *

QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 22nd November 2011, 3:18pm) *

I was under the impression that DeltaQuad was a child.
DeltaQuad is young, but likely over 18. Gratuitous outing link number one & number two.

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Volunteer - Administrator and Support Teams - Wikimedia Foundation
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Good lord. I thought you were kidding before seeing that link. jawdrop.gif
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