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Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

Remember your basic instructions: you have a total of 3 points to award to DICK contestants. You may award all three to one candidate by voting for that person as both DICK and runner-up, or you may divide them by giving 2 to a DICK candidate and 1 to a runner-up. The winner will be the contestant with the highest combined point total.

You must cast one vote in every category. The last selection is the equivalent of a "pass."


All other categories are more straightforward: you have one vote for each category. Use it wisely.

Here, for any N00bs, are the definitions for each category:

WP:DICK of Distinction -- for all-around rottenness by an admin

The Tag-Team Event (see Wikipedia:Tag team)

Miss Incongeniality, for original and flamboyant violations of Wikipedia:Civility

Vexatious Litigant, for the person who just can't get enough of those noticeboards and arbitration cases

and for the good guys...

the Straight Shooter award for honest admins

and the Cojones de latón, for the non-admin who has distinguished himself in combat with the cabal

http://wikipediareview.com/blog/20081117/the-wikipedia-review-awards-pageants/#more-191 for a history of this exalted competition, if you need the back-story.

All set? Let's vote! Keep it clean. Winners will be announced after the voting peters out in about 10 days.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE
The Climate Cabal: William M. Connelley, Kim Dabelstein Petersen, Dave Souza, Stephan Schulz, and Joshua P. Schroeder née ScienceApologist


Dr. Connolley really hates it when people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:William_M._Connolley/For_me/The_naming_of_cats.

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 12:43am) *

Dr. Connolley really hates it when people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:William_M._Connolley/For_me/The_naming_of_cats.


I move we call him “The WC” from this day forward.

Now Flush The WC And Move On …

Jon tongue.gif

Posted by: Alison

Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.

Posted by: Gruntled

QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 6:46am) *

Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.

I hope they're having full frontal shots taken of their streaking. That would be vital encyclopedic material. mellow.gif

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 1:46am) *

Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.


sick.gif

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

Interesting... for the first time, several members in good standing of the Review are making a strong showing in the Bad Guys categories.

Posted by: The Adversary

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 3:29pm) *

Interesting... for the first time, several members in good standing of the Review are making a strong showing in the Bad Guys categories.

Are you talking about Ottava? biggrin.gif


On another note: I think this year is a first (?): neither Jayjg or SlimVirgin have been nominated in any category.

See, what happen when we do not have our normal piñatas to kick: we run around like headless chicken tongue.gif

Posted by: pablo

"Vexatious litigant" is a tricky one; spoilt for choice ...

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

And they're off! In early polling, Cirt leads the pack with 19 points, followed by Sandstein with 14 points, GeorgeWilliamherbert with 11, and the Review's own Lar with 10. The Porn Protectors have established themselves as the team to beat in the tag event, while the Review's own Ottava owns Miss Incongeniality with 12 votes, followed by IronDuke and Tarc with 6 each. The Vexatious Litigant race is wide open with the Review's own Abd leading Baseball Bugs, Cyclopedia and FT2 by a narrow margin. In the Straight Shooter event, Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow looks unstoppable with Will Beback http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology&oldid=411898361#moved_from_log_of_actions at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Scientology. And finally for Cojones de latón, perennial favorite Cla68 has an early lead, but MZMcBride is breathing down his neck with only a one vote margin between them. popcorn.gif

Posted by: Doc glasgow

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Fri 4th February 2011, 6:33am) *

And they're off! In early polling, Cirt leads the pack with 19 points, followed by Sandstein with 14 points, GeorgeWilliamherbert with 11, and the Review's own Lar with 10. The Porn Protectors have established themselves as the team to beat in the tag event, while the Review's own Ottava owns Miss Incongeniality with 12 votes, followed by IronDuke and Tarc with 6 each. The Vexatious Litigant race is wide open with the Review's own Abd leading Baseball Bugs, Cyclopedia and FT2 by a narrow margin. In the Straight Shooter event, Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow looks unstoppable with Will Beback http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology&oldid=411898361#moved_from_log_of_actions at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Scientology. And finally for Cojones de latón, perennial favorite Cla68 has an early lead, but MZMcBride is breathing down his neck with only a one vote margin between them. popcorn.gif


Gotta give Will beback points for trying? No. Maybe I am a Scientologist - or maybe I just don't think we should describe everyone who once went to a Scientology meeting as "evil cultist bastard" on their BLP?

Anyway, can I put in his early nomination for next year's "Vexatious Litigant"?

Posted by: DollyD

Go MZMcBride for Cojones de latón!

Posted by: EricBarbour

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)

Posted by: JayT

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)
I've got a feeling most of the top contenders are the types to see being reviled by WR as a 'badge of honor' or something. yecch.gif

Posted by: TungstenCarbide

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)

you can't polish a turd.

Posted by: Doc glasgow

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Fri 4th February 2011, 4:29pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)

you can't polish a turd.



Or put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:32am) *

Or put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

You can do the last, but it comes out looking like Goth Zombie lipstick.

Posted by: lilburne

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 4th February 2011, 5:45pm) *

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:32am) *

Or put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

You can do the last, but it comes out looking like Goth Zombie lipstick.



Yeah but lets hear it for the porn protection cabal



Take it away Gmaxwell and make it real.


Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

At the close of the second day, Cirt still leads the pack with 25 points, followed by Georgewilliamherbert and Sandstein with 15 each. In the tag-team event, the Porn Protectors still maintain a 4 vote lead over the Climate Changers. Ottava still enjoys a comfortable lead over IronDuke for Miss Incongeniality, while Baseball Bugs has edged ahead of Abd for Vexatious Litigant, with FT2 now tied for second place. Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow appears to control the Straight Shooter match, but for Cojones de latón, MZMcBride is now neck and neck with Cla68 in a real cliff-hanger.

Posted by: HRIP7

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Fri 4th February 2011, 4:29pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)

you can't polish a turd.

On the other hand, note that David Gerard has actually http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology&action=historysubmit&diff=411996164&oldid=411898361. Time for a 5-minute moratorium on Gerard-bashing?

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Sat 5th February 2011, 5:00am) *

On the other hand, note that David Gerard has actually http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology&action=historysubmit&diff=411996164&oldid=411898361. Time for a 5-minute moratorium on Gerard-bashing?
Interesting. Yes, I think the 5 minutes is fully justified.

Posted by: It's the blimp, Frank

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum&oldid=412183463#Bah?

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

Cirt has now emerged as the dominant contestant for WP:DICK with 32 points, trailed by Georgewilliamherbert with 20. The Porn Protectors are maintaining a 5 vote lead over the Climate Changers in the Tag Team event, but here's a message for Malleus Fatuorum and Parrot of Doom -- it ain't over until the Slim Virgin sings. A little extra effort on your part, with some fancy teamwork and really egregious POV pushing, might still take you over the top. Meanwhile, Ottava is still the man to beat in the Miss Incongeniality category, with IronDuke and Tarc tied for second place. The Vexatious Litigant event is now adrenaline city with Abd, Baseball Bugs and FT2 neck-and-neck at 10 votes each. Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow has left the rest in the dust for the Straight Shooter honors, while MZMcBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race. The fans are on their feet!

Posted by: Gruntled

QUOTE( @ Sun 6th February 2011, 5:21pm) *

Cirt has now emerged as the dominant contestant for WP:DICK

That's scarcely surprising, given all the publicity there's been for his anti-Scientology antics. (Not that I'm exactly pro-Scientology myself, I stress.)
QUOTE

Meanwhile, Ottava is still the man to beat in the Miss Incongeniality category

Let's give Ottava all praise when he deserves it. He's run a staggeringly good and determined campaign for the honour. Look at http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=32850&hl= for example. How could even IronDuke compete?

Posted by: MZMcBride

I'm surprised the climate cabal is losing out to the porn cabal. Sex sells, I guess.

I voted for Scott for straight shooter (seems like a lock) and Giano for cojones de latón (mostly as he does a much better job than almost anyone at paying attention and pointing out problems).

My two-point dick vote went to Rlevse; my one-point dick vote went to Cirt (looks like I'll be winning there).

Miss Incongeniality going to Ottava isn't really a surprise given the primary voter base here, but I voted for TenPoundHammer. Looks unlikely that he'll be able to pull ahead at this point, but he'll always be the biggest, craziest diva to me. I mean ... the otters? Come on!

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 5th February 2011, 8:09am) *
QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Sat 5th February 2011, 5:00am) *
On the other hand, note that David Gerard has actually http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology&action=historysubmit&diff=411996164&oldid=411898361. Time for a 5-minute moratorium on Gerard-bashing?
Interesting. Yes, I think the 5 minutes is fully justified.

You must be joking. Gerard has always been hostile towards Scientology, and I suspect his hostility is a major reason why McWhiney and Cirt spend so much time attacking past and current CoS members on WP.

He empowers the powerless (and the pointless).

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

Is campaigning still allowed? Because http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kent_Glowinski_(2nd_nomination). If those are cojones de laiton, we ought perhaps to prefer a different alloy.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Sun 6th February 2011, 6:56pm) *

Is campaigning still allowed?
Sure, why not. But given the way that particular event is shaping up, I don't think your link is going to significantly impact SS's chances.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Sat 5th February 2011, 11:49am) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum&oldid=412183463#Bah?


Apparently, the Tag-Team Event is one of the most coveted awards. I just found http://newscafe.ansci.usu.edu/~bkort/IRC.Sybil.html:
QUOTE

mikeu: on another topic, i have a won a 2009 Wikipedia Review WP:DICK of Distinction Award
Sybil: I am not saying he is right or wrong.
Sybil: I just want to understand it.
mikeu: for the Tag-Team Event
mikeu: http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=22736

Posted by: carbuncle

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 7th February 2011, 2:56am) *

Is campaigning still allowed? Because http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kent_Glowinski_(2nd_nomination). If those are cojones de laiton, we ought perhaps to prefer a different alloy.

Perhaps cojones de ratón?

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 6th February 2011, 1:57pm) *


Miss Incongeniality going to Ottava isn't really a surprise given the primary voter base here, but I voted for TenPoundHammer. Looks unlikely that he'll be able to pull ahead at this point, but he'll always be the biggest, craziest diva to me. I mean ... the otters? Come on!


I find it interesting that I get votes along with those I've disputed with - Abd, FT2, Porn Cabal, etc. Fun.

Posted by: SB_Johnny

QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 7th February 2011, 12:01pm) *

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 6th February 2011, 1:57pm) *


Miss Incongeniality going to Ottava isn't really a surprise given the primary voter base here, but I voted for TenPoundHammer. Looks unlikely that he'll be able to pull ahead at this point, but he'll always be the biggest, craziest diva to me. I mean ... the otters? Come on!

I find it interesting that I get votes along with those I've disputed with - Abd, FT2, Porn Cabal, etc. Fun.

Why is that interesting? The list of people you haven't been a dispute with is, after all, vanishingly small. tongue.gif

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 6th February 2011, 12:21pm) *
...while MZMcBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race.


Wow, MZMcBride really has elastic balls! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: the fieryangel

QUOTE(Gruntled @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 11:07am) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 6:46am) *

Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.

I hope they're having full frontal shots taken of their streaking. That would be vital encyclopedic material. mellow.gif


yes, especially if they're, like, non-white....

Posted by: KStreetSlave

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 7th February 2011, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 6th February 2011, 12:21pm) *
...while MZMcBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race.


Wow, MZMcBride really has elastic balls! rolleyes.gif


I haven't been following, what was Cla68's reason for being in that section?

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 7th February 2011, 4:13am) *

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 7th February 2011, 2:56am) *

Is campaigning still allowed? Because http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kent_Glowinski_(2nd_nomination). If those are cojones de laiton, we ought perhaps to prefer a different alloy.

Perhaps cojones de ratón?

Cojones de estaño. wink.gif That one's for the little tin gods who lord it over their anonymous WP domain. Then cower at the thought that anybody in the real world might find them and punch their lights out for their online behavior. You know-- stuff they'd never be dumb enough to do in an office, or say in a bar.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(KStreetSlave @ Mon 7th February 2011, 1:34pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 7th February 2011, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 6th February 2011, 12:21pm) *
...while MZMocBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race.


Wow, MZMcBride really has elastic balls! rolleyes.gif


I haven't been following, what was Cla68's reason for being in that section?

Cla68 has been a stalwart foe of WikiKorruption for some time now, and has won the Cojones de latón honors for the past two years running. MZMcBride may have been a bit of a dark horse -- I haven't followed his exploits on-Wiki, but he clearly has many members of the Academy in his camp. Meanwhile, Georgewilliamherbert is putting on the steam, leaving Sandstein behind in the runner-up DICK contest. Could he still give Cirt a run for their money? And don't rule out the Climate Changers for tag-team -- they still pose a credible challenge to the Porn Protectors.

Meanwhile, the Vexatious Litigant event has got everyone on the edge of his seat. At the moment, FT2 has acquired a 1 vote lead over Abd and Baseball Bugs, but this race has been full of surprises, and no contestant can claim a decisive advantage at this juncture.

Posted by: Lar

Apparently I'm less congenial than ScienceApologist? Well that's certainly food for thought.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(Lar @ Mon 7th February 2011, 4:13pm) *

Apparently I'm less congenial than ScienceApologist? Well that's certainly food for thought.

It's important to remember that awards pageants of this sort are never purely technical assessments of the contestants. There is always a generous serving of Tinseltown politics involved as well. Have you thought about getting a better publicist?

On the bright side, your http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=31831&view=findpost&p=263103 is going well (or poorly, depending on how ironic you want to be.)

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

It looks like Cla68 is narrowing the gap with MZMcBride. If Cla68 crosses the finish line first, that will be an unheard-of 3 year streak, which not even David Gerard has attempted. The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:12pm) *
The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

You can't have a conversation with Baseball Bugs. He's completely nuts, has Jimbo Juice dribbling out of every hole in his body, and will probably never turn up here to have a serious debate with WR regulars. AND he talks too much, albeit only in short bursts. Try posting a message on his talkpage, asking him to discuss any criticism of him. See what happens (or doesn't happen).

The more I look thru his massive talkpage archives, the more I think he's deliberately and
cleverly trolling ANI......how smart, a troll who http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Baseball_Bugs/Archive012#england a troll.....

Posted by: SB_Johnny

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 5:34pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:12pm) *
The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded.

<snip>
You can't have a conversation with Baseball Bugs.

You've obviously never had the pleasure of trying to have a conversation with Mr. Abd. laugh.gif

(I voted for bugs, BTW. He's not evil either, but very, very, very vexatious and litigious.)

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:34pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:12pm) *
The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

You can't have a conversation with Baseball Bugs. He's completely nuts, has Jimbo Juice dribbling out of every hole in his body, and will probably never turn up here to have a serious debate with WR regulars. AND he talks too much, albeit only in short bursts. Try posting a message on his talkpage, asking him to discuss any criticism of him. See what happens (or doesn't happen).

The more I look thru his massive talkpage archives, the more I think he's deliberately and
cleverly trolling ANI......how smart, a troll who http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Baseball_Bugs/Archive012#england a troll.....
I agree. I rather like Abd, although his posts can be very fatiguing to read. I'm not sure that this new category, "Vexatious Litigant," necessary implies that the contestant must be wicked to win. We're in uncharted waters.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 10:34pm) *

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

Know thy litigants, in rising order of vexatiosity:

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 10:36am) *

QUOTE(Lar @ Mon 7th February 2011, 4:13pm) *

Apparently I'm less congenial than ScienceApologist? Well that's certainly food for thought.

It's important to remember that awards pageants of this sort are never purely technical assessments of the contestants. There is always a generous serving of Tinseltown politics involved as well. Have you thought about getting a better publicist?

On the bright side, your http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=31831&view=findpost&p=263103 is going well (or poorly, depending on how ironic you want to be.)



Is it? Lar has 12 votes for being a dick and another 7 for being incongeniate. That seems to be a tie to my 19.

And that is considering that Lar had to "lay low" when he was an Ombudsman.

Posted by: Newyorkbrad

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Tue 8th February 2011, 8:09pm) *

[*]NYB just http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=247090972 to be everybody's friend, to great waste of ink and electrons.

Yeah, that one was a little long. On the other hand, reading it wasn't mandatory. And people complain at least as much when we don't give reasons for things.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 9th February 2011, 2:18am) *

Yeah, that one was a little long. On the other hand, reading it wasn't mandatory. And people complain at least as much when we don't give reasons for things.

This wall-of-text approach creates the impression (intentional or otherwise) that you'd like as few people as possible to undertake reading it.

Posted by: Doc glasgow

QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 9th February 2011, 2:18am) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Tue 8th February 2011, 8:09pm) *

[*]NYB just http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=247090972 to be everybody's friend, to great waste of ink and electrons.

Yeah, that one was a little long. On the other hand, reading it wasn't mandatory. And people complain at least as much when we don't give reasons for things.



To quote a very wise man...

Perhaps this was "a situation where "less is more" might profitably have been a guiding watchword"??

Posted by: Doc glasgow

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Wed 9th February 2011, 1:09am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 10:34pm) *

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

Know thy litigants, in rising order of vexatiosity:
  • Abd just has http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=227013254&diff=prev of what is relevant to a discussion.
  • NYB just http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=247090972 to be everybody's friend, to great waste of ink and electrons.
  • FT2's prolixity varies inversely as his inclination to answer the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2010/Candidates/FT2/Questions#Questions_from_SlimVirgin) questions being posed to him.


I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).

What I think we've got here is an award for long-winded, off-topic, and tl;dr submissions. Or for that perennial non-answer answer, where lots of words are used as an alternative to actual communication. Or (as I said to Geogre in a put-down line I'm rather proud of) "the tendency to mistake verbosity for erudition."

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logorrhoea_%28linguistics%29

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 5:44am) *

I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).


I hope we can figure out what it means, because at the moment it is definitely the most exciting event, outside of the Cojones contest where Cla68 has just pulled into the lead.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

While Old MacDonald is buying the farm in the Straight Shooter category, I think it is fun that Juliancolton is running in second place - considering that he has all but walked away from Wikipedia (as of now, he edited WP six times since January 1).

Posted by: Zoloft

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:28am) *

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 5:44am) *

I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).


I hope we can figure out what it means, because at the moment it is definitely the most exciting event, outside of the Cojones contest where Cla68 has just pulled into the lead.

I like the old-school term 'stemwinder.'

Posted by: Doc glasgow

Apparently Fox News are calling it for Ottava.

Posted by: SB_Johnny

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 2:52pm) *

Apparently Fox News are calling it for Ottava.

Maybe they'll offer him a job?

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Wed 9th February 2011, 10:18pm) *

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 2:52pm) *

Apparently Fox News are calling it for Ottava.

Maybe they'll offer him a job?

I heard Gutfeld was looking for a new co-host.

Posted by: jayvdb

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Wed 9th February 2011, 12:55am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:34pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:12pm) *
The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

You can't have a conversation with Baseball Bugs. He's completely nuts, has Jimbo Juice dribbling out of every hole in his body, and will probably never turn up here to have a serious debate with WR regulars. AND he talks too much, albeit only in short bursts. Try posting a message on his talkpage, asking him to discuss any criticism of him. See what happens (or doesn't happen).

The more I look thru his massive talkpage archives, the more I think he's deliberately and
cleverly trolling ANI......how smart, a troll who http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Baseball_Bugs/Archive012#england a troll.....
I agree. I rather like Abd, although his posts can be very fatiguing to read.

I agree. IMO Abd is second 'best' of the vexatious litigants, after NYB, as Abd has a lot of knowledge and articulates fairly well. I'm sure Abd would be an engaging person to talk to in person, but he jams an entire conversation into a single, discardable, post.

Posted by: Cedric

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:44am) *

I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).

What I think we've got here is an award for long-winded, off-topic, and tl;dr submissions. Or for that perennial non-answer answer, where lots of words are used as an alternative to actual communication. Or (as I said to Geogre in a put-down line I'm rather proud of) "the tendency to mistake verbosity for erudition."

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logorrhoea_%28linguistics%29

As much as I disagree with Doc when it comes to all things Wikimedia, I have to say he has a valid point here. It seems to me that there has been some confusion of a symptom with the disease. NYB certainly has a well documented history of producing verbose screeds, but it is important to understand that not all logorrhea is in aid of the same goal. While vexatious litigants do often use exceedingly verbose diatribes in pursuit of their obsession for revenge, or intent to harass or confuse, I do not see this as Brad's aim. More often than not, he is trying to play the role of The Reasonable Man in a fundamentally unreasonable situation dealing with quite unreasonable people. As futile or misguided as this behavior may be, it hardly qualifies as the behavior of a vexatious litigant.

Posted by: It's the blimp, Frank

QUOTE(Cedric @ Thu 10th February 2011, 3:21am) *

As futile or misguided as this behavior may be, it hardly qualifies as the behavior of a vexatious litigant.
I think the same goes for Abd.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

Wow! It's a dead heat in the Cojones event, with Cla68 and MZMcBride both at 19 votes. Meanwhile, Risker and Rlevse are creeping up in the Tag Team contest, breathing down the collective neck of the Climate Changers, while the Porn Protectors are still out front. And the Vexatious Litigant race is now turning into a contest between our own Abd and Baseball Bugs, with FT2 falling behind. The new votes are coming in slower now, with most members of the Academy already having cast their ballots. But that trickle of new votes will decide at least two hotly contested races.

Posted by: SB_Johnny

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 10th February 2011, 12:44am) *

Wow! It's a dead heat in the Cojones event, with Cla68 and MZMcBride both at 19 votes. Meanwhile, Risker and Rlevse are creeping up in the Tag Team contest, breathing down the collective neck of the Climate Changers, while the Porn Protectors are still out front. And the Vexatious Litigant race is now turning into a contest between our own Abd and Baseball Bugs, with FT2 falling behind. The new votes are coming in slower now, with most members of the Academy already having cast their ballots. But that trickle of new votes will decide at least two hotly contested races.

The Vexatious Suitor award would probably be even more fun to watch if someone had thought to put Ottava in that one too. tongue.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Wed 2nd February 2011, 11:29pm) *

Remember your basic instructions: you have a total of 3 points to award to DICK contestants. You may award all three to one candidate by voting for that person as both DICK and runner-up, or you may divide them by giving 2 to a DICK candidate and 1 to a runner-up. The winner will be the contestant with the highest combined point total.

You must cast one vote in every category. The last selection is the equivalent of a "pass."


All other categories are more straightforward: you have one vote for each category. Use it wisely.

Here, for any N00bs, are the definitions for each category:

WP:DICK of Distinction -- for all-around rottenness by an admin

The Tag-Team Event (see Wikipedia:Tag team)

Miss Incongeniality, for original and flamboyant violations of Wikipedia:Civility

Vexatious Litigant, for the person who just can't get enough of those noticeboards and arbitration cases

and for the good guys...

the Straight Shooter award for honest admins

and the Cojones de latón, for the non-admin who has distinguished himself in combat with the cabal

http://wikipediareview.com/blog/20081117/the-wikipedia-review-awards-pageants/#more-191 for a history of this exalted competition, if you need the back-story.

All set? Let's vote! Keep it clean. Winners will be announced after the voting peters out in about 10 days.



I would like to draw attention to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Blart:_Mall_Cop"wiki mall cop" Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D) as he is being considered, by the wikileet, for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiptoety&diff=prev&oldid=412768182.

The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ONLINE is the perfect place for a Wannabee Vcop and wiki-jackass Teptoety.

I would love to see such new talent for low bottom feeding be recognized. Please give our very own Tiptoey, the wiki Paul Blart, your vote for DICK of Distinction.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

Baseball Bugs has pulled into the lead position for Vexatious Litigant, while the Cojones event is still a dead heat between Cla68 and MZMcBride. With only a few days to go, the question is whether there are still members of the Academy who have not voted. Those stragglers, if they are out there, will decide these important races.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

And, with the trickle of new votes now drying up, it looks like Baseball Bugs for Vexatious Litigant (no joy in Mudville,) and a tie between Cla68 and MZMcBride in the Conjones event. Of course, between now and Sunday evening, there may still be one stray voter passing by.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Thu 10th February 2011, 4:11am) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 10th February 2011, 12:44am) *

Wow! It's a dead heat in the Cojones event, with Cla68 and MZMcBride both at 19 votes. Meanwhile, Risker and Rlevse are creeping up in the Tag Team contest, breathing down the collective neck of the Climate Changers, while the Porn Protectors are still out front. And the Vexatious Litigant race is now turning into a contest between our own Abd and Baseball Bugs, with FT2 falling behind. The new votes are coming in slower now, with most members of the Academy already having cast their ballots. But that trickle of new votes will decide at least two hotly contested races.

The Vexatious Suitor award would probably be even more fun to watch if someone had thought to put Ottava in that one too. tongue.gif

Indeed. Renzo Cesana parodied as Pepé Le Pew and finally synthesized into SNL's "The Continental." But without the charm. wink.gif

Posted by: Doc glasgow

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 12th February 2011, 3:38pm) *

And, with the trickle of new votes now drying up, it looks like Baseball Bugs for Vexatious Litigant (no joy in Mudville,) and a tie between Cla68 and MZMcBride in the Conjones event. Of course, between now and Sunday evening, there may still be one stray voter passing by.


If it is a tie, does two-times academy award winner Cla68 get to keep the trophy?

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Sat 12th February 2011, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 12th February 2011, 3:38pm) *

And, with the trickle of new votes now drying up, it looks like Baseball Bugs for Vexatious Litigant (no joy in Mudville,) and a tie between Cla68 and MZMcBride in the Conjones event. Of course, between now and Sunday evening, there may still be one stray voter passing by.


If it is a tie, does two-times academy award winner Cla68 get to keep the trophy?

No, we just add a cluster to the decoration he already has. Or maybe a little ball. Two more of these and he'll look like a pwn shop sign.

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 12th February 2011, 12:05pm) *
Two more of these and he'll look like a pwn shop sign.

Freudian slip of the year!

Go to a pawn shop to sell something.....go to a pwn shop to get pwned.
Wikipedia: one of the web's biggest pwn shops. evilgrin.gif

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Sat 12th February 2011, 12:01pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 12th February 2011, 3:38pm) *

And, with the trickle of new votes now drying up, it looks like Baseball Bugs for Vexatious Litigant (no joy in Mudville,) and a tie between Cla68 and MZMcBride in the Conjones event. Of course, between now and Sunday evening, there may still be one stray voter passing by.


If it is a tie, does two-times academy award winner Cla68 get to keep the trophy?
Due to cuts in the Program and Catering Committee budget, we can only afford to provide a virtual trophy to the victorious WP:DICK.


You know, the Tag Team event is still very close. There could be an upset victory for the Climate Changers.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 12th February 2011, 1:23pm) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 12th February 2011, 12:05pm) *
Two more of these and he'll look like a pwn shop sign.

Freudian slip of the year!

Go to a pawn shop to sell something.....go to a pwn shop to get pwned.
Wikipedia: one of the web's biggest pwn shops. evilgrin.gif

That was a deliberate pun. hrmph.gif

Image

I think that there's some merit in describing WP as the world's largest pwn shop, 3 balls and all. Though I'm not sure who has the 3 balls (maybe it was Godwin for tweaking the FBI).

Anyway, if you take your spare time into WP, they'll give you a barnstar pwn ticket for it. And if you go back to retrieve it, they'll say they lost it. dry.gif

hmmm.gif WP: the world's first cashless pwn shop! confused.gif

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

And MZMcBride pulls into the lead!

Posted by: gomi

QUOTE(Cedric @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:21pm) *
QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:44am) *
I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).

As the proposer of the award, I must agree. I saw it as a chastisement for those who run too easily screaming to the various "enforcement" mechanisms that WP offers

QUOTE(Cedric @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:21pm) *
QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:44am) *
What I think we've got here is an award for long-winded, off-topic, and tl;dr submissions.

The source of the problem was that I separately proposed NYB for an award for which I was unable to find a catchy phrase. "Stemwinder" is too polite. "Impotent ArbCom Logorrheaic" is too ... opaque (and probably misspelled).

Posted by: Detective

When it says the polls close at sundown, is that in Perth Australia, Perth Scotland, Swalwell Alberta or Cupertino?

Posted by: SB_Johnny

QUOTE(gomi @ Sun 13th February 2011, 3:46am) *

QUOTE(Cedric @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:21pm) *
QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:44am) *
I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).

As the proposer of the award, I must agree. I saw it as a chastisement for those who run too easily screaming to the various "enforcement" mechanisms that WP offers

QUOTE(Cedric @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:21pm) *
QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 7:44am) *
What I think we've got here is an award for long-winded, off-topic, and tl;dr submissions.

The source of the problem was that I separately proposed NYB for an award for which I was unable to find a catchy phrase. "Stemwinder" is too polite. "Impotent ArbCom Logorrheaic" is too ... opaque (and probably misspelled).

Maybe just add "windsack" next time around... tl;dr deserves an award.

Posted by: Ottava

How about the "What did you say? I fell asleep" award.

Posted by: Herschelkrustofsky

QUOTE(Detective @ Sun 13th February 2011, 2:17am) *

When it says the polls close at sundown, is that in Perth Australia, Perth Scotland, Swalwell Alberta or Cupertino?
I was thinking International Date Line. I have no way of strictly enforcing this of course, except that I will close the thread when sundown comes to Kalifornia.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 13th February 2011, 3:01pm) *

QUOTE(Detective @ Sun 13th February 2011, 2:17am) *

When it says the polls close at sundown, is that in Perth Australia, Perth Scotland, Swalwell Alberta or Cupertino?
I was thinking International Date Line. I have no way of strictly enforcing this of course, except that I will close the thread when sundown comes to Kalifornia.

http://www.hebcal.com/shabbat/fridge.cgi?city=Los+Angeles;year=5771 that would be about 5:17 P.M. (PST) or 01:17 London time. Got that, Sherlock?

Posted by: Zoloft

'Tedious Windbag' would suit for next year. There are a plethora of candidates.

Posted by: TungstenCarbide

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 13th February 2011, 6:04am) *

And MZMcBride pulls into the lead!

Holy fucking shit - over five hundred votes cast !