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Posted by: Peter Damian
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Fact checking!
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Fri 21st January 2011, 5:16pm) 
Panyd said later at the SPA “I shouldn't have left my account logged in while he was using it.†Again, how do you get a laptop to a bar, still logged in to Wikipedia?
The login has to do with a cookie in the browser, not the IP.
Posted by: Peter Damian
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Posted by: Ottava
They are two different people. Like most couples who are identified to the Foundation, they are assumed as "one voice" when consensus is concerned. Who knows about voting, but Wiki is not a Democracy remember? 
Posted by: Peter Damian
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Posted by: thekohser
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"Anti-psychotics are my friends" So what is she doing going for a drink?
Hot chocolate?
Posted by: Peter Damian
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st January 2011, 11:06pm)
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"Anti-psychotics are my friends" So what is she doing going for a drink?
Hot chocolate?
Well I blanked it because it appears she does exist http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Panyd&diff=prev&oldid=378053517 as Ironholds and others have met her.
I don't want to make fun of anyone who genuinely has mental illness (although the idea of exploiting non-existent illness to game the system makes me cross).
But what do we really know? Some woman turned up with Symonds to the London meetup. Did she identify as the person who edits Wikipedia? Did anyone does editing and so on?
The whole story is absolutely implausible. But then part of it is real.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:14pm)
Well I blanked it because it appears she does exist http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Panyd&diff=prev&oldid=378053517 as Ironholds and others have met her.
That link doesn't seem to prove that anyone has met her. And, who is Ironholds? How do we know he's not just a character in the skit?
Posted by: Text
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The whole story is absolutely implausible. But then part of it is real.
I think many stories on Wikipedia are implausible, but then part of them is real. They have drugged editors, stalkers, obsessed people, child lovers, transsexuals, identity thieves, con men, and more.
Posted by: Peter Damian
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st January 2011, 11:41pm)
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:14pm)
Well I blanked it because it appears she does exist http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Panyd&diff=prev&oldid=378053517 as Ironholds and others have met her.
That link doesn't seem to prove that anyone has met her. And, who is Ironholds? How do we know he's not just a character in the skit?
Well it would have been at this meetup.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/36
Where the dashing officer mentions he is bringing her.
[edit] The likeliest explanation, given the similarity of both editing styles (and the implausible opening of her account with an edit to her monobook) is that he has hijacked her name, possibly with her permission, to use it to get two administrator accounts. I mean, Mrs Damian wouldn't give a f--k if I did that (so long as her real name did not come into it).
I don't know.
Posted by: Ottava
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:14pm)
Some woman turned up with Symonds to the London meetup.
Why would Peter Symonds bring his mother to a meetup with him?
Oh wait, he's British.
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:41pm)
That link doesn't seem to prove that anyone has met her.
But this link proves she exists: http://twitter.com/#!/panyd
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:41pm)
And, who is Ironholds? How do we know he's not just a character in the skit?
A little known fact: Ironholds was a would-be child actor who auditioned for the role of Harry Potter in the popular film series. If he got the role, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And, chances are, the Harry Potter films would have been dreadful.
Ironholds has also turned up in WR under a couple of different names, too. Can you guess which ones? (It is kind of easy, truth be told.)
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 21st January 2011, 11:05pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:41pm)
That link doesn't seem to prove that anyone has met her.
But this link proves she exists: http://twitter.com/#!/panyd
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:41pm)
And, who is Ironholds? How do we know he's not just a character in the skit?
A little known fact: Ironholds was a would-be child actor who auditioned for the role of Harry Potter in the popular film series. If he got the role, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And, chances are, the Harry Potter films would have been dreadful.
Ironholds has also turned up in WR under a couple of different names, too. Can you guess which ones? (It is kind of easy, truth be told.)
lolwut? Are not Jeremy/GRAWP and the Potter actor Radcliffe about the same age, being born in 1989 or so?
Posted by: Peter Damian
I blanked my original post after it became clear that there is a real person corresponding to user:panyd, who is not Mr Symonds. But the question of whether Symonds is using that account with or without her permission is different. In addition to the evidence cited by others here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Panyd , here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Panyd#Question_15
and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Chase_me_ladies,_I%27m_the_Cavalry/Archive - some of which is inexplicable on the assumption that Chaseme was not using her account for the RfA, there is other evidence that he is the main user of this account. As follows.
1. Similarity of time zone. Ms Panyd is supposed to be mainly resident in the US, where she attends college. But the editing patterns of both accounts are almost identical. Rocket-powered editing for the English day, followed by sleep from about 4 until 10. (Getting up at 10 is what my father used to call a 'gentleman's hour', but then Chase me is an officer and a gentleman, so we'll grant him that).
2. Similarity of edit comments. 'Whoops', 'dear god'. The spelling of 'encyclopaedia' using the extra 'e. Other similarities noted in the Rfa above.
3. Similarity of style. Both technical - both use bots, and Panyd's first edit was to install twinkle - at almost exactly the same time chaseme was experimenting with this.
4. Obsession with AfDs, and many votes on the same AfD. Listed below.
00:44, 14 November 2008 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bow tie wearers (4th nomination) ? (OTE) chaseme
00:50, 14 November 2008 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bow tie wearers (4th nomination) ? panyd
15:15, 12 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Betcris ? (?Betcris: Keep!) panyd
19:45, 12 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Betcris ? (closing) cml
21:39, 1 November 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Eyed Kids (3rd nomination) ? (?Black Eyed Kids: reply) cml
09:58, 31 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Eyed Kids (3rd nomination) ? (Delete) panyd
(But oddly they vote on opposite sides)
21:41, 15 October 2010 (diff | hist) N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CrossFire Fusor ? (Creating deletion discussion page for CrossFire Fusor. (TW)) cml
20:58, 16 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CrossFire Fusor ? (Delete) panyd
20:04, 6 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denialism (2nd nomination) ? (?Denialism: nbdelete) cml
07:11, 6 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denialism (2nd nomination) ? (Comment) panyd
19:42, 25 July 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DW-link ? (?DW-link: Keep) panyd
22:31, 30 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dybbuk box ? (?Dybbuk box: minor edit) cml
01:44, 30 May 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edouard Stern ? (?Edouard Stern: sspa) cml
16:58, 2 June 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edouard Stern ? (Found a book with a section on Stern and his company) panyd
17:49, 12 October 2010 (diff | hist) N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Electrodynamic Space Thruster ? (Creating deletion discussion page for Electrodynamic Space Thruster. (TW)) cml
21:02, 16 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Electrodynamic Space Thruster ? (Delete) panyd
00:04, 17 November 2008 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free alternatives to proprietary softwares ? panyd
23:38, 16 November 2008 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free alternatives to proprietary softwares ? (?Free alternatives to proprietary softwares: delete and disperse) cml
11:37, 12 April 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hate man ? (?Hate man: reply) cml
20:34, 11 April 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hate man ? (Keep) panyd
(panyd worked on this article)
20:56, 1 January 2011 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenna Miscavige Hill ? (?Jenna Miscavige Hill: reply) cml
22:31, 2 January 2011 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenna Miscavige Hill ? (Cmt) panyd
19:37, 19 October 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Nicole Lee (2nd nomination) ? (?Jennifer Nicole Lee: Delete!) panyd
20:45, 19 October 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Nicole Lee (2nd nomination) ? (?Jennifer Nicole Lee: nb) cml
chaseme nominates
16:03, 10 April 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kurt Eden ? (?Kurt Eden: reply) cml
18:12, 9 April 2010 (diff | hist) N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kurt Eden ? (Creating deletion discussion page for Kurt Eden. (TW)) panyd
17:34, 17 November 2008 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bow tie wearers (4th nomination) ? panyd
01:04, 14 November 2008 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bow tie wearers (4th nomination) ? (* not cml
21:04, 15 November 2008 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of schedules for drugs and poisons ? panyd 39767.87778
23:36, 15 November 2008 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of schedules for drugs and poisons ? (?List of schedules for drugs and poisons: reply) cml 39767.98333
01:31, 10 January 2009 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Action Resource Centre ? panyd
00:11, 10 January 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Action Resource Centre ? (?London Action Resource Centre: add a bit) cml
12:14, 15 April 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Looming, Towering, Stooping, and Sinking ? (?Looming, Towering, Stooping, and Sinking: update my vote) cml
02:05, 15 April 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Looming, Towering, Stooping, and Sinking ? (Delete and merge or Rename) panyd
20:53, 19 November 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louise Glover (2nd nomination) ? (?Louise Glover: reply) cml
11:54, 18 November 2010 (diff | hist) N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louise Glover (2nd nomination) ? (Creating deletion discussion page for Louise Glover. (TW)) panyd
20:13, 17 January 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Major Mano ? panyd
20:11, 17 January 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Major Mano ? (?Major Mano: reply) cml
00:51, 4 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MarHedge ? (?MarHedge: I have added some content/references!) panyd
16:17, 2 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MarHedge ? (?MarHedge: nb) cml
19:41, 25 August 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Portmann ? (Weak Keep) panyd
21:16, 25 August 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents ? (?Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Portmann: canvassing) cml
22:07, 17 January 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oliver Hughes ? panyd
22:08, 17 January 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oliver Hughes ? (?Oliver Hughes: ) cml
21:52, 17 April 2010 (diff | hist) N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Out-of-place artifact ? (Creating deletion discussion page for Out-of-place artifact. (TW)) panyd
17:20, 18 April 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Out-of-place artifact ? (kept!) cml
15:23, 4 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palos Verdes Cross Country ? (?Palos Verdes Cross Country: Comment) panyd
22:23, 4 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palos Verdes Cross Country ? (?Palos Verdes Cross Country: keep) cml
19:59, 6 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polar Bears and Global Warming ? (?Polar Bears and Global Warming: lol what) cml
15:34, 5 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polar Bears and Global Warming ? (Delete) panyd
23:06, 17 January 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Porn for the Blind (2nd nomination) ? (?Porn for the Blind) panyd
23:09, 17 January 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Porn for the Blind (2nd nomination) ? (?Porn for the Blind: delete) cml
18:05, 25 July 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Petrick ? (?Robert Petrick: Delete) panyd
20:39, 1 August 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Petrick ? (closi ng) cml
14:05, 14 August 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Selective Sound Sensitivity ? (?Selective Sound Sensitivity: dsm?) cml
14:07, 14 August 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Selective Sound Sensitivity ? (Comment with link to DSM) panyd
23:33, 22 September 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shona Holmes (3rd nomination) ? (?Shona Holmes: reply) cml
18:52, 25 July 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shona Holmes ? (?Shona Holmes: Delete) panyd
16:01, 2 July 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valéry Grancher ? (?Valéry Grancher: Keep) panyd
19:36, 2 July 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valéry Grancher ? (?Valéry Grancher: note) cml
18:58, 23 June 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veritee 2 ? panyd
16:14, 23 June 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veritee 2 ? (?Veritee: hm) cml
Posted by: carbuncle
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 11:03am)
I blanked my original post after it became clear that there is a real person corresponding to user:panyd, who is not Mr Symonds. But the question of whether Symonds is using that account with or without her permission is different. In addition to the evidence cited by others here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Panyd , here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Panyd#Question_15
and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Chase_me_ladies,_I%27m_the_Cavalry/Archive - some of which is inexplicable on the assumption that Chaseme was not using her account for the RfA, there is other evidence that he is the main user of this account. As follows.
1. Similarity of time zone. Ms Panyd is supposed to be mainly resident in the US, where she attends college. But the editing patterns of both accounts are almost identical. Rocket-powered editing for the English day, followed by sleep from about 4 until 10. (Getting up at 10 is what my father used to call a 'gentleman's hour', but then Chase me is an officer and a gentleman, so we'll grant him that).
I did not see your posts before they were redacted, but both Panyd's Facebook and Twitter have "London" as her location. At least the person I identify as Panyd does, yours may be different.
If the question is whether or not Chase Me is in control of that account, it seems plausible, but I don't see how you're going make a believable case for it.
Posted by: Peter Damian
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 11:44am)
I did not see your posts before they were redacted, but both Panyd's Facebook and Twitter have "London" as her location. At least the person I identify as Panyd does, yours may be different.
She explicitly says in the RfA that she attends Sarah Lawrence college.
Another oddity is that, while she has only communicated with CML on his talk page 3 times, they make many consecutive edits. Listed below. There are at least 3m pages on Wikipedia. What explains the uncanny way in which one edit is followed by another within minutes? Do they phone each other up? Well they claim to, but it strikes me as bizarre. Some of the sequences are truly difficult to explain. And the one about 'churchfitters' - an obscure folk band, is impossible. CML claims that they both liked the band, and that is why that was her first edit. But CML originally PRODed it. Then followed up by added some material to it. I don't know how you explain that. If they both 'really like' the band, why didn't they create the article before? Why PROD it when it is created? Bizarre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Encore_Une_Fois.jpg&action=history
History of file picture
Edit on same article
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naberius&diff=next&oldid=250320055
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdelwahed_El-Sayed&diff=next&oldid=250304969
Worked on very obscure English folk group
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Churchfitters&action=history
Consecutive edits
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Churchfitters&diff=next&oldid=164392270
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Churchfitters&diff=164167821&oldid=140259628 cml nominates for deletion.
"Churchfitters are a band we both very much like, and therefore one of the first she edited" (RfA talk 23:35, 15 January 2010) She first edited on 13 October 2007. The same date as he nommed for delete. What?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Becky_Fischer&action=historysubmit&diff=402343952&oldid=402316150
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Berg_Propulsion&action=historysubmit&diff=407531659&oldid=407266448
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brazilian_Film_Festival_of_London&diff=383510083&oldid=383507889
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bump_in_the_Night_(TV_series)&diff=252241112&oldid=252240693
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clipper_Group&diff=383471099&oldid=383449636
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dybbuk_box&diff=393892168&oldid=393888593
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Jennifer_Knapp.JPG&diff=346970907&oldid=346970641
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ivan_Samylovsky&diff=364319285&oldid=362098056 - this is an odd one - look at the comment and then this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Panyd/Testing2&action=history
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Ashby_(admiral)&diff=389387710&oldid=389385710
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tearfund&diff=384273757&oldid=384237553
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mongolia&diff=383735897&oldid=383735397
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PSI_Seminars&action=historysubmit&diff=252730230&oldid=252679594
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Fuzztones&diff=384093289&oldid=384022124
Only ever speaks to Chaseme three times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chase_me_ladies,_I%27m_the_Cavalry&diff=393048180&oldid=392658887
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chase_me_ladies,_I%27m_the_Cavalry&diff=354847105&oldid=354841684 (onthe phone to chaseme)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chase_me_ladies,_I%27m_the_Cavalry&diff=354522940&oldid=354238373
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
Well, either he has Svengali powers that were not obvious in the BBC interview of she is the world's dumbest Trilby. 
Posted by: Ottava
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 1:05am)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st January 2011, 6:41pm)
And, who is Ironholds? How do we know he's not just a character in the skit?
A little known fact: Ironholds was a would-be child actor who auditioned for the role of Harry Potter in the popular film series. If he got the role, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And, chances are, the Harry Potter films would have been dreadful.
Ironholds has also turned up in WR under a couple of different names, too. Can you guess which ones? (It is kind of easy, truth be told.)
Posted by: carbuncle
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 12:49pm)
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 11:44am)
I did not see your posts before they were redacted, but both Panyd's Facebook and Twitter have "London" as her location. At least the person I identify as Panyd does, yours may be different.
She explicitly says in the RfA that she attends Sarah Lawrence college.
Is there any reason why she couldn't have been living in the US attending Sarah Lawrence for part of the year and also living in the UK for part of the year? And now, for the sake of argument, lives full-time in the UK, with Chase Me?
Assume that Chase Me and Panyd edit in tandem, rather than being one person. This explains the patterns that you have noticed. Not very exciting, I know, but not everything is a conspiracy.
Posted by: Peter Damian
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 5:19pm)
Assume that Chase Me and Panyd edit in tandem, rather than being one person. This explains the patterns that you have noticed. Not very exciting, I know, but not everything is a conspiracy.
I don't know what you mean by 'in tandem'. Literally it is 'one behind the other', 'in sequence'. This does not explain the uncanny way in which an edit to one of the 3.5m articles in Wikipedia is immediately followed by another, by the other person. Statistically that is highly unlikely. It could be explained if one phoned the other up, of course. But phoning each other up about editing Wikipedia? And how do you edit within minutes while holding a phone? And what would be the point of it?
There is also the matter of the RfA. CML accidentally logged in as Panyd, in order to support her.
Posted by: carbuncle
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 5:49pm)
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 5:19pm)
Assume that Chase Me and Panyd edit in tandem, rather than being one person. This explains the patterns that you have noticed. Not very exciting, I know, but not everything is a conspiracy.
I don't know what you mean by 'in tandem'. Literally it is 'one behind the other', 'in sequence'. This does not explain the uncanny way in which an edit to one of the 3.5m articles in Wikipedia is immediately followed by another, by the other person. Statistically that is highly unlikely. It could be explained if one phoned the other up, of course. But phoning each other up about editing Wikipedia? And how do you edit within minutes while holding a phone? And what would be the point of it?
There is also the matter of the RfA. CML accidentally logged in as Panyd, in order to support her.
Assume that they are often in communication while they are both editing, either by being in the same place at the same time or through other means. I can imagine two people editing WP while simultaneously chatting via Skype or something similar. It paints a rather sad picture, but it is a possibility.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 4:03am)
I blanked my original post after it became clear that there is a real person corresponding to user:panyd, who is not Mr Symonds. But the question of whether Symonds is using that account with or without her permission is different. In addition to the evidence cited by others here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Panyd , here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Panyd#Question_15
and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Chase_me_ladies,_I%27m_the_Cavalry/Archive - some of which is inexplicable on the assumption that Chaseme was not using her account for the RfA, there is other evidence that he is the main user of this account. As follows.
1. Similarity of time zone. Ms Panyd is supposed to be mainly resident in the US, where she attends college. But the editing patterns of both accounts are almost identical. Rocket-powered editing for the English day, followed by sleep from about 4 until 10. (Getting up at 10 is what my father used to call a 'gentleman's hour', but then Chase me is an officer and a gentleman, so we'll grant him that).
2. Similarity of edit comments. 'Whoops', 'dear god'. The spelling of 'encyclopaedia' using the extra 'e. Other similarities noted in the Rfa above.
3. Similarity of style. Both technical - both use bots, and Panyd's first edit was to install twinkle - at almost exactly the same time chaseme was experimenting with this.
4. Obsession with AfDs, and many votes on the same AfD. Listed below.
00:44, 14 November 2008 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bow tie wearers (4th nomination) ? (OTE) chaseme
00:50, 14 November 2008 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bow tie wearers (4th nomination) ? panyd
15:15, 12 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Betcris ? (?Betcris: Keep!) panyd
19:45, 12 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Betcris ? (closing) cml
21:39, 1 November 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Eyed Kids (3rd nomination) ? (?Black Eyed Kids: reply) cml
09:58, 31 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Eyed Kids (3rd nomination) ? (Delete) panyd
(But oddly they vote on opposite sides)
21:41, 15 October 2010 (diff | hist) N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CrossFire Fusor ? (Creating deletion discussion page for CrossFire Fusor. (TW)) cml
20:58, 16 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CrossFire Fusor ? (Delete) panyd
20:04, 6 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denialism (2nd nomination) ? (?Denialism: nbdelete) cml
07:11, 6 November 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denialism (2nd nomination) ? (Comment) panyd
19:42, 25 July 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DW-link ? (?DW-link: Keep) panyd
22:31, 30 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dybbuk box ? (?Dybbuk box: minor edit) cml
01:44, 30 May 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edouard Stern ? (?Edouard Stern: sspa) cml
16:58, 2 June 2009 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edouard Stern ? (Found a book with a section on Stern and his company) panyd
17:49, 12 October 2010 (diff | hist) N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Electrodynamic Space Thruster ? (Creating deletion discussion page for Electrodynamic Space Thruster. (TW)) cml
21:02, 16 October 2010 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Electrodynamic Space Thruster ? (Delete) panyd
00:04, 17 November 2008 (diff | hist) m Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free alternatives to proprietary softwares ? panyd
23:38, 16 November 2008 (diff | hist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free alternatives to proprietary softwares ? (?Free alternatives to proprietary softwares: delete and disperse) cml
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chaseme nominates
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Wow. This post is the best formal evidence we've seen for a DICK tag-team. Did we decide that the nominees must be admins?
Posted by: Theanima
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 6:05am)
A little known fact: Ironholds was a would-be child actor who auditioned for the role of Harry Potter in the popular film series. If he got the role, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And, chances are, the Harry Potter films would have been dreadful.
Off-topic, but the films are dreadful. Daniel Ratcliffe is a terrible actor, and I only watch them because of Emma Watson.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(Theanima @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 12:06pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 6:05am)
A little known fact: Ironholds was a would-be child actor who auditioned for the role of Harry Potter in the popular film series. If he got the role, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And, chances are, the Harry Potter films would have been dreadful.
Off-topic, but the films are dreadful. Daniel Ratcliffe is a terrible actor, and I only watch them because of Emma Watson.
Well, the story only really requires Ratcliffe to manage a look of earnest grimness. I don't know if he's capable of a really convincing [B] look of surprise and awe-- but that's what Grint/Weasley (a better actor than either of the other kids) is for.
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(Theanima @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 2:06pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 6:05am)
A little known fact: Ironholds was a would-be child actor who auditioned for the role of Harry Potter in the popular film series. If he got the role, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And, chances are, the Harry Potter films would have been dreadful.
Off-topic, but the films are dreadful. Daniel Ratcliffe is a terrible actor, and I only watch them because of Emma Watson.
Because you think she'd make a good babysitter, I presume?
Posted by: Malleus
QUOTE(Theanima @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 7:06pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 6:05am)
A little known fact: Ironholds was a would-be child actor who auditioned for the role of Harry Potter in the popular film series. If he got the role, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And, chances are, the Harry Potter films would have been dreadful.
Off-topic, but the films are dreadful. Daniel Ratcliffe is a terrible actor, and I only watch them because of Emma Watson.
Me too.
Posted by: EricBarbour
QUOTE(Theanima @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 7:06pm)
Daniel Ratcliffe is a terrible actor
"Radcliffe" 
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 22nd January 2011, 10:36am)
Wow. This post is the best formal evidence we've seen for a DICK tag-team.
I agree. Good work, PD. Whether they are admins or not, this whole situation stinks.
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 23rd January 2011, 8:51pm)
I agree. Good work, PD. Whether they are admins or not, this whole situation stinks.
Wouldn't it be funny if Panyd is really a guy in drag?
Posted by: carbuncle
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 24th January 2011, 2:26am)
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 23rd January 2011, 8:51pm)
I agree. Good work, PD. Whether they are admins or not, this whole situation stinks.
Wouldn't it be funny if Panyd is really a guy in drag?
Milton Berle would think so.
Posted by: Zoloft
Probably the tandem editors use IM or facebook chat or sumfin like.
Posted by: EricBarbour
QUOTE(Zoloft @ Sun 23rd January 2011, 11:34pm)
Probably the tandem editors use IM or facebook chat or sumfin like.
Good luck finding proof of that.
Posted by: Malleus
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 24th January 2011, 2:26am)
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 23rd January 2011, 8:51pm)
I agree. Good work, PD. Whether they are admins or not, this whole situation stinks.
Wouldn't it be funny if Panyd is really a guy in drag?
Funny to who?
It seems evident that Chase Me exaggerated his involvement in the British military, but that's not a hanging offence. At least it's no longer a hanging offence. Should he be an arbitrator? Probably not, but that hardly makes him unique.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(Malleus @ Mon 24th January 2011, 6:53pm)
It seems evident that Chase Me exaggerated his involvement in the British military, but that's not a hanging offence.
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
In a way, it's funnier than if he wasn't in the military at all. He's just so incredibly junior and unimportant. It's like he occupies that part of the military totem pole that is below the ground. 
Posted by: CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Malleus @ Mon 24th January 2011, 8:53pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 24th January 2011, 2:26am)
Wouldn't it be funny if Panyd is really a guy in drag?
Funny to who?
Well, to us, of course.
Personally, I imagine Panyd to be the 21st century equivalent of Miss Peggy Guy:
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 24th January 2011, 9:52pm)
Personally, I imagine Panyd to be the 21st century equivalent of Miss Peggy Guy:
Speaking of Bobby Van, according to Wikipedia's disambiguation page about Bobby Van, he was an "American musical actor well known throughout the 1950s and 1970s."
I guess he went into hiding during the 1960s.
Wikipedia: always improving, and quickly.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 24th January 2011, 7:50pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Damn, I missed another one. Very good.
Posted by: CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 3:55am)
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 24th January 2011, 7:50pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Damn, I missed another one. Very good.Tell Somey to put this in the tag-line with a link to this thread.
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 24th January 2011, 10:31pm)
Speaking of Bobby Van, according to Wikipedia's disambiguation page about Bobby Van, he was an "American musical actor well known throughout the 1950s and 1970s."
Have you read the actual Bobby Van article? What a disaster!
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Tue 25th January 2011, 7:59am)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 3:55am)
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 24th January 2011, 7:50pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Damn, I missed another one. Very good.Tell Somey to put this in the tag-line with a link to this thread.
"Tell him" yerself. Somey doesn't listen to me any more than you, so far as I can tell. Although I second the idea of putting this up as a thread subtitle somewhere.
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 24th January 2011, 10:55pm)
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 24th January 2011, 7:50pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Damn, I missed another one. Very good.Indeed.
Posted by: Peter Damian
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 25th January 2011, 6:25pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 24th January 2011, 10:55pm)
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 24th January 2011, 7:50pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Damn, I missed another one. Very good.Indeed.
No results found for "on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody".
Seconded.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 25th January 2011, 12:16pm)
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 25th January 2011, 6:25pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 24th January 2011, 10:55pm)
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 24th January 2011, 7:50pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Damn, I missed another one. Very good.Indeed.
No results found for "on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody".
Seconded.
So we can use this as a thread subtitle, since Madame Panyderfly seems to be a resident of the U.S. who occasionally visits London.
Ah, Chase Me-- a girl in every port, he has! If only HMS Forward weren't permanently becalmed in the Horselaugh Latitudes.
Posted by: RMHED
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 7:38pm)
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 25th January 2011, 12:16pm)
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 25th January 2011, 6:25pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 24th January 2011, 10:55pm)
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 24th January 2011, 7:50pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:28am)
No, but finding out that he's a naval dogsbody on a stone frigate in Birmingham, U.K., is really funny.
Yeah but on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody.
Damn, I missed another one. Very good.Indeed.
No results found for "on the internet, nobody knows you're a dogsbody".
Seconded.
So we can use this as a thread subtitle, since Madame Panyderfly seems to be a resident of the U.S. who occasionally visits London.
Ah, Chase Me-- a girl in every port, he has! If only HMS Forward weren't permanently becalmed in the Horselaugh Latitudes.
You are cruel fellows, every one of you a knave.
Hast thou no finer feelings?
Is mockery thy only trade?
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Posted by: RMHED
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 8:21pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Cease thy inglorious trading. Be not unkind unto thy fellow creatures and superate thy baser nature.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 1:36pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 8:21pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Cease thy inglorious trading. Be not unkind unto thy fellow creatures and superate thy baser nature.
What for? The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
Milton Social Darwinist Roe
Posted by: RMHED
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 10:04pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 1:36pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 8:21pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Cease thy inglorious trading. Be not unkind unto thy fellow creatures and superate thy baser nature.
What for? The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
Milton Social Darwinist Roe
Better a world of fools than a world of cynics.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 3:32pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 10:04pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 1:36pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 8:21pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Cease thy inglorious trading. Be not unkind unto thy fellow creatures and superate thy baser nature.
What for? The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
Milton Social Darwinist Roe
Better a world of fools than a world of cynics.
No, I think I'd much rather a world of cynics, as fools make very poor professonals.
Personally, I don't think I've ever known a very-competent person over the age of 40 who wasn't also pretty cynical about the world. They might exist, it's just that I haven't met any.
Warren Buffett: "If you're in a poker game for 15 minutes and you haven't yet identified the mark, then you're the mark." I admit I haven't ever met Mr. Buffett, but something tells me that he's no danger of being the exception to my rule, either.
Posted by: SirFozzie
Of course, there's the saying "An optimist is a pessimist who hasn't run into the real world yet"
And also the quote (I think by einstein).. "We try to make the world a more fool-proof place. The universe tries to make bigger fools. So far, the universe is winning")
Posted by: RMHED
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 11:30pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 3:32pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 10:04pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 1:36pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 8:21pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Cease thy inglorious trading. Be not unkind unto thy fellow creatures and superate thy baser nature.
What for? The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
Milton Social Darwinist Roe
Better a world of fools than a world of cynics.
No, I think I'd much rather a world of cynics, as fools make very poor professonals.
Personally, I don't think I've ever known a very-competent person over the age of 40 who wasn't also pretty cynical about the world. They might exist, it's just that I haven't met any.
Warren Buffett: "If you're in a poker game for 15 minutes and you haven't yet identified the mark, then you're the mark." I admit I haven't ever met Mr. Buffett, but something tells me that he's no danger of being the exception to my rule, either.
Yeah the world's doing just great with all those over 40 cynics running it. Warren Buffett is a cunt, I wouldn't piss on that old bastard if he was on fire.
QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Tue 25th January 2011, 11:33pm)
Of course, there's the saying "An optimist is a pessimist who hasn't run into the real world yet"
And also the quote (I think by einstein).. "We try to make the world a more fool-proof place. The universe tries to make bigger fools. So far, the universe is winning")
I'm on the side of the universe..... Go fools!
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 6:30pm)
Personally, I don't think I've ever known a very-competent person over the age of 40 who wasn't also pretty cynical about the world. They might exist, it's just that I haven't met any.
Well, you should hang out with Lar. He is many, many years beyond 40 and maintains a child-like wonder about the world -- complete with Lego blocks!
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 3:36pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 8:21pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Cease thy inglorious trading. Be not unkind unto thy fellow creatures and superate thy baser nature.
Are you hoping someone will invent an award for "best impression of a prohibitionist at Mardi Gras in N'awlins"?
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 25th January 2011, 6:56pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 3:36pm)
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 8:21pm)
QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 25th January 2011, 2:49pm)
Is mockery thy only trade?
Well, when you consider the commodity that we're trading in...
Cease thy inglorious trading. Be not unkind unto thy fellow creatures and superate thy baser nature.
Are you hoping someone will invent an award for "best impression of a prohibitionist at Mardi Gras in N'awlins"?
You wanna see sin of the wickedest kind? Here it is! You wanna see virtue left behind? Here it is! Sodom was vice and visa-versa. You wanna say where the vice is worser? Here it is!
I mean, here it is!
Sometimes, here it is, with Spanish subtitles. I mean, HERE IT IS.
Posted by: Floydsvoid
QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Tue 25th January 2011, 7:33pm)
And also the quote (I think by einstein).. "We try to make the world a more fool-proof place. The universe tries to make bigger fools. So far, the universe is winning")
Ahhh yes, the Third Law. By cleaning up one corner all the other corners become messier.
Posted by: Kelly Martin
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 7:20pm)
Well, you should hang out with Lar. He is many, many years beyond 40 and maintains a child-like wonder about the world -- complete with Lego blocks!
I discovered yesterday that Lego blocks are excellent for keeping my laptop from overheating. Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 26th January 2011, 8:07am)
I discovered yesterday that Lego blocks are excellent for keeping my laptop from overheating.
The same trick works with Lar!
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 10:19pm)
You wanna see sin of the wickedest kind? Here it is! You wanna see virtue left behind? Here it is! Sodom was vice and visa-versa. You wanna say where the vice is worser? Here it is!
I mean, here it is!
Miltie gets a big Horsey kiss for "Paint Your Wagon" references! Mwah! Mwah!
Say...did we misplace Chase Me somewhere? The conversation seems to have left him behind.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 26th January 2011, 6:17am)
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 26th January 2011, 8:07am)
I discovered yesterday that Lego blocks are excellent for keeping my laptop from overheating.
The same trick works with Lar!
Okay, Kelly, now you're deliberately setting them up!
Posted by: Lar
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 25th January 2011, 9:20pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 25th January 2011, 6:30pm)
Personally, I don't think I've ever known a very-competent person over the age of 40 who wasn't also pretty cynical about the world. They might exist, it's just that I haven't met any.
Well, you should hang out with Lar. He is many, many years beyond 40 and maintains a child-like wonder about the world -- complete with Lego blocks!
Not THAT many years beyond 40!
And I'm pretty cynical. Creating things with LEGO just helps keep me saner. They stay where you put them, they go together in well understood ways, and they don't talk back.
Posted by: EricBarbour
I wonder how many I can post before the software says "no way".....
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 26th January 2011, 9:03pm)
I wonder how many I can post before the software says "no way".....
Well, I think we milked this cow dry. So, take it away, Weavers...
Posted by: carbuncle
I guess Chase me decided that "nothing to hide" no longer applies. He has rev-deleted the entire history of his user page.
QUOTE
*16:24, 7 August 2011 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs) changed revision visibility of "User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry": removed content, edit summary for 182 revisions ‎ (RD5: Other valid deletion under Deletion Policy: G7)
*00:01, 19 January 2011 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs) restored "User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry" ‎ (140 revisions restored: Restoring more)
*23:44, 18 January 2011 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs) restored "User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry" ‎ (29 revisions restored: Restoring deleted revisions as advised - nothing to hide)
*00:01, 19 January 2011 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs) restored "User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry" ‎ (140 revisions restored: Restoring more)
*23:44, 18 January 2011 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs) restored "User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry" ‎ (29 revisions restored: Restoring deleted revisions as advised - nothing to hide)
Posted by: Abd
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 7th August 2011, 1:31pm)
I guess Chase me decided that "nothing to hide" no longer applies. He has rev-deleted the entire history of his user page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3AChase+me+ladies%2C+I%27m+the+Cavalry
That is blatant recusal failure. A sysop who wants his page history deleted could place a speedy deletion tag on it. Or could request deletion of specific revisions. In an emergency, they could do it themselves, but recusal policy should then require immediate public notification, so other administrators may review it. The action, as done, demolishes transparency, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revision_deletion prohibits actions like this, it's strict.
My opinion is that RevDel may be reviewed by DRV. It is quite like page deletion, only the latest version was "restored."
Posted by: Gary_Niger
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 7th August 2011, 1:31pm)
I guess Chase me decided that "nothing to hide" no longer applies. He has rev-deleted the entire history of his user page.
QUOTE
*16:24, 7 August 2011 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs) changed revision visibility of "User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry": removed content, edit summary for 182 revisions ‎ (RD5: Other valid deletion under Deletion Policy: G7)
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Yeah, I noticed that. I haven't checked, but I bet that the edits where he lied about his position in the Royal Navy Reserves or whatever are gone.
Also his girlfriend is apparently undergoing another schizophrenic episode, and is blocked for 4 days.
Posted by: Gary_Niger
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17:08 User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry‎ (diff | hist) . . (+1) . . Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs) (note: deleted previous history for the next few days due to current RL harrassment)
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Sun 7th August 2011, 2:50pm)
Also his girlfriend is apparently undergoing another schizophrenic episode, and is blocked for 4 days.
All things considered, Lord Nelson and Lady Hamilton aren't really bad folks. I wish them well in the real world.
Posted by: Heat
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 8th August 2011, 12:51am)
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Sun 7th August 2011, 2:50pm)
Also his girlfriend is apparently undergoing another schizophrenic episode, and is blocked for 4 days.
All things considered, Lord Nelson and Lady Hamilton aren't really bad folks. I wish them well in the real world.
The poor sod should just invoke his "right to vanish" and leave wikipedia already. It's obviously no longer a source of self-esteem and just serves to cause him trouble.
Posted by: carbuncle
Ahhhhh, it all becomes clear now, thanks to this edit summary from Chase Me after restoring the history of his user page:
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Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
I am not sure what precipitated this attack on various folks by the oh-so-clever-and-not-at-all-racist GNAA trolls, but it seems to have been the motivation for Chase Me trying to throw his user page down the memory hole.
Here is an excerpt of the GNAA "press release":
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About Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry:
Spending the eight hours one would normally occupy sleeping editing Wikipedia, Richard "Chase" Symonds follows closely in the steps of his hero, Essjay by falsifying credentials in order to give off the impression that he is not, in fact, a worthless drain on British taxpayer's pockets. Mr. Symonds represents all that is wrong with the Internet. A "hobby" (read: addiction) that takes up 8 hours of this dumpy man's day, rewarded with a role bringing nothing but added "responsibilities" after 6 years with little prestige and no pay, except for the money directly siphoned out of British tax payers pockets. Mr. Symonds, when not editing Wikipedia at his local library, can be found at the homeless shelter which he currently calls "home" (the squalid hellhole depicted in "his" BBC interview was merely an abandoned building that he was squatting until recently being forcibly removed by local authorities.)
Spending the eight hours one would normally occupy sleeping editing Wikipedia, Richard "Chase" Symonds follows closely in the steps of his hero, Essjay by falsifying credentials in order to give off the impression that he is not, in fact, a worthless drain on British taxpayer's pockets. Mr. Symonds represents all that is wrong with the Internet. A "hobby" (read: addiction) that takes up 8 hours of this dumpy man's day, rewarded with a role bringing nothing but added "responsibilities" after 6 years with little prestige and no pay, except for the money directly siphoned out of British tax payers pockets. Mr. Symonds, when not editing Wikipedia at his local library, can be found at the homeless shelter which he currently calls "home" (the squalid hellhole depicted in "his" BBC interview was merely an abandoned building that he was squatting until recently being forcibly removed by local authorities.)
Mod note: press release de-linked so as to avoid complicity in harassing a third party -- HK
Posted by: Gary_Niger
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Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
Why would he need to delete his userpage history if he was being harassed "in real life"?
Posted by: carbuncle
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 4:27pm)
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Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
Why would he need to delete his userpage history if he was being harassed "in real life"?
You are far better placed -- as the harasser -- to answer that question. Did you remove the GNAA logo from your footer here, or did the mods do that for you?
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 9th August 2011, 5:26am)
Ahhhhh, it all becomes clear now, thanks to this edit summary from Chase Me after restoring the history of his user page:
QUOTE
Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
I am not sure what precipitated this attack on various folks by the oh-so-clever-and-not-at-all-racist GNAA trolls, but it seems to have been the motivation for Chase Me trying to throw his user page down the memory hole.
Here is an excerpt of the GNAA "press release":
QUOTE
About Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry:
Spending the eight hours one would normally occupy sleeping editing Wikipedia, Richard "Chase" Symonds follows closely in the steps of his hero, Essjay by falsifying credentials in order to give off the impression that he is not, in fact, a worthless drain on British taxpayer's pockets. Mr. Symonds represents all that is wrong with the Internet. A "hobby" (read: addiction) that takes up 8 hours of this dumpy man's day, rewarded with a role bringing nothing but added "responsibilities" after 6 years with little prestige and no pay, except for the money directly siphoned out of British tax payers pockets. Mr. Symonds, when not editing Wikipedia at his local library, can be found at the homeless shelter which he currently calls "home" (the squalid hellhole depicted in "his" BBC interview was merely an abandoned building that he was squatting until recently being forcibly removed by local authorities.)
Spending the eight hours one would normally occupy sleeping editing Wikipedia, Richard "Chase" Symonds follows closely in the steps of his hero, Essjay by falsifying credentials in order to give off the impression that he is not, in fact, a worthless drain on British taxpayer's pockets. Mr. Symonds represents all that is wrong with the Internet. A "hobby" (read: addiction) that takes up 8 hours of this dumpy man's day, rewarded with a role bringing nothing but added "responsibilities" after 6 years with little prestige and no pay, except for the money directly siphoned out of British tax payers pockets. Mr. Symonds, when not editing Wikipedia at his local library, can be found at the homeless shelter which he currently calls "home" (the squalid hellhole depicted in "his" BBC interview was merely an abandoned building that he was squatting until recently being forcibly removed by local authorities.)
Mod note: press release de-linked so as to avoid complicity in harassing a third party -- HK
Egads, wait a minute. Richard "Chase Me" Symonds? This "dumpy guy" at the homeless shelter is the buff-looking guy in the photo of him visiting the submarine dock, and who is/was a naval dogsbody serving on the stone frigate in Birmingham??
Is the homeless-shelter-living & library-edits-for-8-hours thing before, or after, the erm, semi-naval experience? If after, then, God, the man's stone frigate ran aground indeed!
Cue Blues:
The stone frigate of my life has run aground
The stone frigate of my life has run aground
The frigate of my life makes me look like Barney Fife
And that is why you don't see me around
Posted by: Gary_Niger
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 9th August 2011, 3:44pm)
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 4:27pm)
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Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
Why would he need to delete his userpage history if he was being harassed "in real life"?
You are far better placed -- as the harasser -- to answer that question. Did you remove the GNAA logo from your footer here, or did the mods do that for you?
The latter.
Posted by: Zoloft
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 1:49pm)
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 9th August 2011, 3:44pm)
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 4:27pm)
QUOTE
Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
Why would he need to delete his userpage history if he was being harassed "in real life"?
You are far better placed -- as the harasser -- to answer that question. Did you remove the GNAA logo from your footer here, or did the mods do that for you?
The latter.
I applaud their moderate moderation. I would have been tempted to change your user name by one character. Gary…Niger would be about right.
Would have been entertaining watching you try to figure out how to log in.
Posted by: Gary_Niger
QUOTE(Zoloft @ Tue 9th August 2011, 8:11pm)
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 1:49pm)
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 9th August 2011, 3:44pm)
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 4:27pm)
QUOTE
Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
Why would he need to delete his userpage history if he was being harassed "in real life"?
You are far better placed -- as the harasser -- to answer that question. Did you remove the GNAA logo from your footer here, or did the mods do that for you?
The latter.
I applaud their moderate moderation. I would have been tempted to change your user name by one character. Gary…Niger would be about right.
Would have been entertaining watching you try to figure out how to log in.
Or I would have just looked at any one of my posts and noticed the new nick.
Posted by: Zoloft
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 7:54pm)
QUOTE(Zoloft @ Tue 9th August 2011, 8:11pm)
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 1:49pm)
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 9th August 2011, 3:44pm)
QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Tue 9th August 2011, 4:27pm)
QUOTE
Restored, as GNAA 'outing' wasnt an outing so much as a laughably out-of-date and wonderfully inaccurate rehash of a very old WR thread. tl;dr
Why would he need to delete his userpage history if he was being harassed "in real life"?
You are far better placed -- as the harasser -- to answer that question. Did you remove the GNAA logo from your footer here, or did the mods do that for you?
The latter.
I applaud their moderate moderation. I would have been tempted to change your user name by one character. Gary…Niger would be about right.
Would have been entertaining watching you try to figure out how to log in.
Or I would have just looked at any one of my posts and noticed the new nick.
Sure ya would. Now that you know.