The Old Man Murray flap Options

[EricBarbour]

Didn't anyone notice this?
SchuminWeb (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who has apparently held a grudge against OMM writer Erik Wolpaw,
somehow managed to get the Wikipedia article about OMM (an old gaming site) deleted.

Schumin tried before in January.
The only vote I can see is from MelanieN (T-C-L-K-R-D) . Girlfriend? Sock?

Among the results:

Boing Boing had considerable coverage of it. Note some of the comments:

Sometimes I wish I could get back money I donated to them. I doubt I'll ever donate to wiki again.

This is standard Wikipedia. It's such a corrupt incestuous sausagefest. 'Free Encyclopedia' my ass.
I've given up even trying to bother getting useful info past the neckbeards who run the place - there are just too many hidden toes that are easily trod upon.

Oops! Neckbeards, ha ha.

And here it is on Slashdot. Result: similar comments.

You know what should make your scratch your head? The problem you have just described at the same time happens to be the very essence and fundamental principle of Wikipedia. That anyone, including stupid morons, trolls with hidden agenda (competitors), and outright psychopaths can edit it any and every second, repeatedly and infinitely.
It follows that Wikipedia is, and has inherently been from the very beginning, a fundamentally flawed experiment. Thanks god Google is starting to realize this and is moving the Wikipedia result to SERPS position #5, while the first 4 links point to the authoritative or official site (if one exists).

I used to contribute a fair amount to Wikipedia to get my brain going in the morning. I quit doing so a couple years ago, because the whole infighting and "notability" crap was ridiculous. Every single character from a book, movie, cartoon, video game, anime (pokemon, etc) gets a many-paged detailed entry while real people quickly get the brush because someone gets a thorn in their ass over something. And those "somethings" are hard to pin down. Some entries surprisingly don't exist, while others (someone with a podcast you've never heard of or who is supposedly some self-described social media expert, etc) gets an entry. That idiot from "Hot For Words" even has a wikipedia entry.

Firstly, I won't be donating to Wikipedia again. This is not because I'm an OMM fanboy taking my bat home in a huff, although I am also that. But actually, it's because this story has made me look into Wikipedia more, and apparently this shit is rife. I guess I should have known that, but I'd always been scared to check because I still had some faith in one human endeavour and was happy to let things stay that way, until I felt some pressing need to know otherwise. Well, game over on that front. Back to total misanthropy for me.
Secondly, it's actually quite an interesting read because the Schumin guy who nominated for deletion, is evidently really, really, pathetic. And not in a kind of sad and disappointing, move along cowboy way, but actually to a degree that's almost gripping. This article highlights an almost iconic exemplar of the form of pathetic, to the degree that it's actually compelling.
To whit, and as best as I can tell from summaries, a man who is mocked - for being pathetic no less - by a popular gaming culture website waits a DECADE for revenge, whilst the world moves on around him, and the revengee behind the site goes on to pen dialogue for a video game that many people rightly consider one of the genuinely enduring classics of the new age.

I've seen a lot of buzz about this on gaming forums.

Mr. Schumin is quite the classic Wikipedia admin-troll. Look at the vote in his 2007 RFA.
Now look at the vote when he first tried in 2006.
There are numerous complaints about him in AN/I and Wikiquette.
And btw, he cooperates with Cirt when Scientology articles come up.....

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[NotASpamBot]

Ottava is suspicious and judgmental of everyone, it seems.

Does Ottava like/trust anyone in WR?

Better yet, does anyone in WR like/trust Ottava?

[Ottava]

Ottava is suspicious and judgmental of everyone, it seems.

Does Ottava like/trust anyone in WR?

Better yet, does anyone in WR like/trust Ottava?

NotASpamBot, I suggest you look up who Poetlister is. Their identity was confirmed when they were banned from the other forums and then they tried to use names known to be him here and play his games.

[NotASpamBot]

Ottava is suspicious and judgmental of everyone, it seems.

Does Ottava like/trust anyone in WR?

Better yet, does anyone in WR like/trust Ottava?

NotASpamBot, I suggest you look up who Poetlister is. Their identity was confirmed when they were banned from the other forums and then they tried to use names known to be him here and play his games.

Your reply is a non-sequitur in regard to my questions.

And I wasn't asking you, anyway.

[Ottava]

Ottava is suspicious and judgmental of everyone, it seems.

Does Ottava like/trust anyone in WR?

Better yet, does anyone in WR like/trust Ottava?

NotASpamBot, I suggest you look up who Poetlister is. Their identity was confirmed when they were banned from the other forums and then they tried to use names known to be him here and play his games.

Your reply is a non-sequitur in regard to my questions.

"Non-sequitur" doesn't mean what you think it means. You asked about my trust issues. I pointed out clear reasons not to true him.

Poetlister's standard whining

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[Retrospect]

Your reply is a non-sequitur in regard to my questions.

"Non-sequitur" doesn't mean what you think it means. You asked about my trust issues. I pointed out clear reasons not to true him.

"To true", as any native speaker of English would know, means to bring something into the exact position or form required. Thus, you true a wheel by adjusting its position on its axle; you true a block of wood by planing it to adjust its shape. I am unclear how you true a person, or how that relates to Ottava's shithead reply. No doubt he can explain.

Ottava chose to ignore the second question, because he could not answer in a way that would not make him look even more bloody ridiculous than he does now. That's fair enough.

Poetlister's standard whining

Are you not getting ruddy confused? I, you say, am Indian. Poetlister, I understand, is English. We cannot possibly be the same person.

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[Ottava]

"To true", as any native speaker of English would know, means to bring something into the exact position or form required.

No. No one uses such antiquated terms except those in India. It is clear that I meant to say to trust him. A native speaker would have seen that.

Poetlister, I understand, is English. We cannot possibly be the same person.

Poetlister is not English. You are too new to even know about him. So what is your real identity?

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[Retrospect]

You are too new to even know about him.

Any native speaker of English would have been able to find when my WP account was created, which was 2007. So, when will you admit that you can't speak English properly?

[Tarc]

You are too new to even know about him.

Any native speaker of English would have been able to find when my WP account was created, which was 2007. So, when will you admit that you can't speak English properly?

Listen you cum-guzzling faggots, I'm about 2 seconds away from plastering goatse and lemonparty on every fucking thread you post in. No one gives a fuck about you two, a fake-assed chav and an OCD basketcase. I'd rather see this forum die into unused obsolescence than see you 2 Jew it up here day in and day out.

Go outside, fuck a girl, read a book, fly a kite, go whale-watching, I don't care but for the love of christ, buddha, and the flying spaghetti monster

SHUT

THE FUCK

UP

PS: Niggers. (I think that covers every racial, ethnic, religious and gender slur category now)