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Block of Moulton for incivility

After discussion with other admins, in which I was requested to personally make this block, I have indef blocked Moulton from this project. It is my belief that he was not here in a good faith effort to create learning materials, but rather was here to carry out his ongoing campaign against people who he thinks treated him unfairly at Wikipedia. After reviewing his case at Wikipedia, I think this is clearly not the case: he was properly blocked at Wikipedia, and should be blocked on sight from any Wikimedia project where he surfaces with a similar agenda.

I would recommend that a significant number of the attack pages be deleted, and the project protected at least for now, pending a good community discussion of what something like this should look like.

There are always difficult growing pains for young commuities; I have seen it in many languages and many projects. I encourage Wikiversity to review the "ethics" project - which, it seems to me could be an interesting project if handled appropriately - with an eye towards developing principles for dealing with such projects in the future. One idea that I would like to propose is an explicit ban on "case studies" using real examples of non-notable people, in exchange for hypotheticals. I would also like to encourage you to consider clarifying the scope of Wikiversity to make it more clear that it is not a place for people to come and build attack pages in the guise of learning materials.

In any event, I hope that my action here will be viewed as helpful. I did not act quickly, but only after discussion with important people, and only after hearing that 3 bureaucrats support this action. It is not my intention to be the "God King" of Wikiversity, although I do request that this block only be overturned upon a very careful consideration of the possible implications for the future of the project.

The first major internal conflict and ban is always tough. My thoughts are with you, and I wish you well.--Jimbo Wales 19:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
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Jimbo's first phone call to me (the one where he hung up when I answered, then a couple of hours later blocked my account on Wikipedia, then when I re-tried the number that had called me, he explained that he had had a bad connection earlier in the day from...) wait for it... the DENTIST'S OFFICE!
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 18th September 2008, 11:30pm) *

Jimbo's first phone call to me (the one where he hung up when I answered, then a couple of hours later blocked my account on Wikipedia, then when I re-tried the number that had called me, he explained that he had had a bad connection earlier in the day from...) wait for it... the DENTIST'S OFFICE!


And that's the tooth?
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Thu 18th September 2008, 8:31pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 18th September 2008, 11:30pm) *

Jimbo's first phone call to me (the one where he hung up when I answered, then a couple of hours later blocked my account on Wikipedia, then when I re-tried the number that had called me, he explained that he had had a bad connection earlier in the day from...) wait for it... the DENTIST'S OFFICE!


And that's the tooth?


Ah, dentists. Apropos of all our tatt threads:

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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 18th September 2008, 8:05pm) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Thu 18th September 2008, 8:31pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 18th September 2008, 11:30pm) *

Jimbo's first phone call to me (the one where he hung up when I answered, then a couple of hours later blocked my account on Wikipedia, then when I re-tried the number that had called me, he explained that he had had a bad connection earlier in the day from...) wait for it... the DENTIST'S OFFICE!


And that's the tooth?


Ah, dentists. Apropos of all our tatt threads:

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Not fair at all. I have 14 tacks and am terrified of hypodermic needles. This is a case of 'one of these is not like the other.'
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My own personal opinion (based on private discussions with a number of Wikiversitans) is that Wikiversity is still in development and that it's certainly not large enough to absorb the fractious drama inevitably generated by the "Wikipedia Ethics" project, which, given its current state could not possibly move beyond personal agenda-driven soliliquys. For the Wikiversity remain engaged in it is to risk further alienating the remaining project leaders and will erode any community left. Moulton has continuously demonstrated that he is only interested in his own ends, achieved only by "outing" people on the Wikipedia project and, quite likely, anyone who wants to disagree with him too vehemently. No project based on that sort of bullying and fearmongering can possibly succeed. Bastique 18:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

It occurs to me that the arrival of Godzilla-King and the Fearsome Basilisque on the black side of the chess board have intimidated and alienated at least half of dozen players on the white team. So far, Erkan, Emesee, SBJ, and Ottava Rima have pulled back from the game, leaving WAS 4.250 and JWSchmidt as the only active chess pieces on the white side of the game board.

But I digress.

Can anyone suggest the name of the fear that the Fearsome Basilisque is referring to?

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 18th September 2008, 11:42pm) *
QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 18th September 2008, 5:59pm) *

H2: (Jon) Reciprocity (Mimesis) is a two-way street.

Scholium. My notion of Reciprocity is inspired by Martin Buber, not Marcel Marceau.

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The term 'Mimesis' comes from Rene Girard, not Marcel Marceau.

QUOTE(the_undertow @ Fri 19th September 2008, 1:38am) *
This is a case of 'one of these is not like the other.'

This is also a case where someone who is not afraid of Godzilla-King, the Fearsome Basilisque, or Virginia Woolf needs to saunter into this lunatic scape-goat psychodrama and stare down the Phreaking Basilisque.

Undertow, I have confidence you will not turn to stone if you glower at the Fearsome Basilisque.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 19th September 2008, 7:39am) *

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 18th September 2008, 11:42pm) *

QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 18th September 2008, 5:59pm) *

H2: (Jon) Reciprocity (Mimesis) is a two-way street.


Scholium. My notion of Reciprocity is inspired by Martin Buber, not Marcel Marceau.

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The term 'Mimesis' comes from Rene Girard, not Marcel Marceau.


Then attribute it to him, as it has nothing to do with me, and do not confound it with genuine reciprocity.

Yes, I know all about Predator-Prey Mimesis and Dyadic Cyclones, and it is precisely that species of 2-dim Duelistic Thinking (DT's) that sucked all those More Science High Alums into that LeStrange Distractor with IDeists and Pseudoscientologists.

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