Jimbo causes Blofeld to quit Options

[thekohser]

I don't know why so many "long-time editors" seem very surprised and indignant to discover that Jimmy Wales is a horrible manager of communities, and that he's basking in success and fame on the thankless labor served up by grunts who don't realize that Jimmy Wales keeps the architecture deliberately labor-intensive, because it's so addictive.

Good luck on the "outside", Blofeld!

[gomi]

For those unwilling to sort through the rubbish of Jimbo's talk page, here is the comment that Blofeld made, and Jimbo deleted, citing "trolling":

''Me'' pay attention to the facts of reality? That's coming from you who makes claims in the public every week about our "efforts to improve quality" and your naive claims that you aim to dramatically increase the number of female editors. You expect things to happen which are beyond your control and you expect people to go out of their way to get things done for you. Maybe if you actually offered decent incentives to editors to get much needed work done for you you'd attract better contributors and more female editors instead of expecting everybody to pussy foot around you while you reap all the rewards. As a leader I'd expect you to respect people's viewpoints instead of dismissing them like you have done here. As a leader you are often very narrow minded and often shockingly ignorant of people's viewpoints to develop the project. I've often had good ideas which I think will dramatically improve the project and proposed them to you in the uttermost good faith as I want to see the project grow and you and Sue have been about as helpful as goldfish.♦ [Dr. Blofeld] 14:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't have much of an opinion yet on the underlying topic, but Jimbo is certainly thin-skinned about criticism. That said, the "listen to me, listen to me!" nature of the comment is a little shrill.

[Somey]

''Me'' pay attention to the facts of reality? That's coming from you who makes claims in the public every week about our "efforts to improve quality" and your naive claims that you aim to dramatically increase the number of female editors. You expect things to happen which are beyond your control and you expect people to go out of their way to get things done for you. Maybe if you actually offered decent incentives to editors to get much needed work done for you you'd attract better contributors and more female editors instead of expecting everybody to pussy foot around you while you reap all the rewards. As a leader I'd expect you to respect people's viewpoints instead of dismissing them like you have done here. As a leader you are often very narrow minded and often shockingly ignorant of people's viewpoints to develop the project. I've often had good ideas which I think will dramatically improve the project and proposed them to you in the uttermost good faith as I want to see the project grow and you and Sue have been about as helpful as goldfish.♦ [Dr. Blofeld] 14:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't have much of an opinion yet on the underlying topic, but Jimbo is certainly thin-skinned about criticism. That said, the "listen to me, listen to me!" nature of the comment is a little shrill.

Well, absolutely, and at the risk of boring people with my usual pat diagnosis, it's standard-issue online narcissism. Blofeld is a classic case - he's always been like this, but at least in this particular instance he seems to have a fairly clear view of what's going on now, even though he naturally tends to define the problems in self-referential terms.

I should say, though, that while it probably depends on the nature of the "incentives," I doubt that any sort of meaningful incentive program would increase the percentage of female WP users. What's more, it's pretty clear that the WMF leadership understands that, and that their recent talk has been almost solely for the purpose of sounding like they care, because that's what Big Donors want to hear. (The Big Donors don't really care either, of course, other than for the PR value.)

As for Blofeld, you never know - maybe this time he'll stay away for more than a couple of days. If he could just get to a full week, preferably two or three weeks, he might have a real shot. The real psychological withdrawal doesn't start for at least a week or two.

[Milton Roe]

As for Blofeld, you never know - maybe this time he'll stay away for more than a couple of days. If he could just get to a full week, preferably two or three weeks, he might have a real shot. The real psychological withdrawal doesn't start for at least a week or two.

But the cravings!! Each one lasts an average of 8 minutes. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) And just when you have the last one licked, along comes another. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif)