Cool Hand Luke arbcom election Options

[Littleunknownadmin]

Cool Hand Luke seems to have the experience for the job, being in the project since almost the beginning. But looking at his responses to the questions, it seemed way too controversial, including one statement in which he will desyrop a admin working for the OTRS if he wheel-wars and another which says that he wants to abolish [[WP:SOCK]]. Other replies to questions are just as poor. Those kind of statements will if a voter will even look at the questions first before voting. This one has been the shocker candidacy so far, what do you guys think.

[GlassBeadGame]

WP:CANVAS is one the bulwarks of reaction and maintenance of the the dysfunctional social networking community on Wikipedia. To the extent that the "community" has any ability to carry out basic reforms (not much at all if you ask me) that ability would reside least in the geek-wonk kool-aiders that frequent non-mainspace discussion and most in the moderate editors who occassionally work on articles and don't get over-involved drama and politics. Any activity that would get these "moderate" Wikipedians involved would almost certainly result in violations of WP:Canvassing. Without these types of violations any "election" or "consensus" on WP will remain in the hands of the most over-involved and whoever wanders in.

Of course engaging these potentially more progressive voters is not what One has done here. He has only asked via email at least one of the most ardent kool-aiders who already voted to re-vote tactically in a manner that would benefit himself. This might violate WP:CANVAS but not in the progressive manner I described. Oddly this might actually amount to some kind of defense in bizarro world of Wikipedia

One has shown himself to be...well...very motivated to get his butt on ArbCom. I believe that this accounts for his "WR is dead...long live One's New Review" thread that he recently started. This is the incident that lead to my "Fucking Ingrate" comment that One finds now so very useful to include in his WR sig. He has also found recent occasion to revisit on this forum pro-Wales comments he made. This is useful to him because he will need to gain Mr. Wales trust in order to secure the "blessing of the god-king" that is the final hurdle assuring that anyone getting on ArbCom is completely useless. I am not surprised to see that he might have played fast and loose with some internal rule of Wikipedia.

[The Wales Hunter]

One has shown himself to be...well...very motivated to get his butt on ArbCom. I believe that this accounts for his "WR is dead...long live One's New Review" thread that he recently started. This is the incident that lead to my "Fucking Ingrate" comment that One finds now so very useful to include in his WR sig. He has also found recent occasion to revisit on this forum pro-Wales comments he made. This is useful to him because he will need to gain Mr. Wales trust in order to secure the "blessing of the god-king" that is the final hurdle assuring that anyone getting on ArbCom is completely useless. I am not surprised to see that he might have played fast and loose with some internal rule of Wikipedia.

I agree with you, as I've suggested above, but my hope remains CHL/One is merely pretending to be a model Wikipedian in order to get elected, then will revert to his true, unblinkered and very able colours.

[GlassBeadGame]

One has shown himself to be...well...very motivated to get his butt on ArbCom. I believe that this accounts for his "WR is dead...long live One's New Review" thread that he recently started. This is the incident that lead to my "Fucking Ingrate" comment that One finds now so very useful to include in his WR sig. He has also found recent occasion to revisit on this forum pro-Wales comments he made. This is useful to him because he will need to gain Mr. Wales trust in order to secure the "blessing of the god-king" that is the final hurdle assuring that anyone getting on ArbCom is completely useless. I am not surprised to see that he might have played fast and loose with some internal rule of Wikipedia.

I agree with you, as I've suggested above, but my hope remains CHL/One is merely pretending to be a model Wikipedian in order to get elected, then will revert to his true, unblinkered and very able colours.

Entering into that house of mirrors is not for the faint of heart. I mean once you start thinking like that how do you know where to quit off, especially if you're in Mr. Wales' shoes? How could he even know that the whole Anti-WR Mini-Putch and resulting vitriolic exchanges weren't manufactured by mutual consent of all involved? It wasn't, but what good would my saying so do? Or that leaking the email without a very good case against One was meant to create sympathy for his candidacy? Wales might well want to err on the safe side in such a situation.

[One]

Wales might well want to err on the safe side in such a situation.

He might. I've criticized his role several times here. One of my campaign promises is directed squarely at him. As I said on his talk page, he should get out of the business of holding veto over ArbCom elections. And there's this answer to Rootology where I say that ArbCom should be accountable to the community and WMF, but not to Jimbo and former arbitrators.

It just so happens that I think he's generally been a moderating voice on images. On this issue I agree with him--and always have, since this account was three days old. I've posted this autofellatio thing like six times in the past year, and you've only called it pandering now.

These are all my sincere views, and voters can take them or leave them.

And you're free to assume it's pandering, just like you're free to ignore these obsessed new users. But I think you're wrong on both.

[GlassBeadGame]

Wales might well want to err on the safe side in such a situation.

He might. I've criticized his role several times here. One of my campaign promises is directed squarely at him. As I said on his talk page, he should get out of the business of holding veto over ArbCom elections. And there's this answer to Rootology where I say that ArbCom should be accountable to the community and WMF, but not to Jimbo and former arbitrators.

It just so happens that on an issue (images) where he's generally been a moderating voice that I agree with--and always have, since this account was three days old. I've posted this autofellatio thing like six times in the past year, and you've only called it pandering now.

These are all my sincere views, and voters can take them or leave them.

Yes and now you have re-posted it at least four times in the past 24 hours. The pandering comes in not in the original formation of the opinion, which is wrong but maybe sincere, but in the current beating it to death. Wales certainly is on the wrong side when it comes to child protection issues on WP. He was only doing his usual dance of manipulation in the removal of that one image that was done for public relations damage control.

[Lar]

GBG: I can't figure out what really irks you the most here.

Because, at least to me, anyway, someone who seems to have a good grasp of the problems facing WP, the right approach to fixing them, and the will to tackle the task (which will not be easy) strikes me as just the sort of candidate that we should be electing to ArbCom.

Unless of course, you actually just want WP to fail rather than reform.

Those who want WP to fail clearly ought to be working against candidates that might make things better, and for those who will hasten the day. You know, kinda like what John Galt did in that story that we all like to make fun of... knock the clueful productive sorts out of the system. Hmm... maybe Kurt is WP's Francisco d'Anconia??? ... nah.

[GlassBeadGame]

GBG: I can't figure out what really irks you the most here.

Because, at least to me, anyway, someone who seems to have a good grasp of the problems facing WP, the right approach to fixing them, and the will to tackle the task (which will not be easy) strikes me as just the sort of candidate that we should be electing to ArbCom.

Unless of course, you actually just want WP to fail rather than reform.

Those who want WP to fail clearly ought to be working against candidates that might make things better, and for those who will hasten the day. You know, kinda like what John Galt did in that story that we all like to make fun of... knock the clueful productive sorts out of the system. Hmm... maybe Kurt is WP's Francisco d'Anconia??? ... nah.

What irks me here is One's willingness to disrupt this forum to advance his candidacy. As I am certain you must understand by now that I do not believe that ArbCom has any role whatsoever in reforming Wikipedia. I don't care about Wikipedia's internal politics and would no longer support or oppose any candidate for any community office (WMF B/D might be different). My critique of Wikipedia at least attempts to view it completely from the outside and address the concerns of those impacted by the site's irresponsibility.

[Kelly Martin]

What irks me here is One's willingness to disrupt this forum to advance his candidacy.

I see no evidence that One is disrupting this forum. You, on the other hand....