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David Gerard assesses JSTOR as a "problem that needs dealing with", and he goes on to ponder ways by which the entire "proprietary journal system" could be brought to its knees.
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I still think of the academic publishing industry as worse than the music industry in terms of the money going to people other than those who actually create the works being consumed, and the music industry is pretty bad in this regard: only a small percentage of the cost of a record/CD/MP3 purchased legally goes to actual musicians or songwriters, with most going to management and marketing types. These industries all have in common archaic business models built up in the days when bulky physical objects had to be manufactured and distributed, necessitating all sorts of expensive infrastructure that isn't needed nowadays for electronic distribution. It's notably primarily people connected with this management/marketing/corporate end who are shouting the loudest for draconian protection of intellectual property, supposedly for the sake of the poor starving artists, though they sometimes take such positions over the objection of artists themselves.

The still-useful role of gatekeepers to filter information and distinguish a crank's blog and a garage band's noise from the "good stuff" (however this may be defined) needs to somehow be recreated in the modern world; exactly what form this will take is yet to be determined, but hopefully it won't sap up nearly as much of the resources that go into the industry compared to the writers/artists/performers/researchers themselves.
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thekohser   Gerard takes on JSTOR  
lilburne   David Gerard assesses JSTOR as a "problem th...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='thekohser' post='280709' date='Wed 2...  
thekohser   I wonder (not for the first time) what the hell i...  
Milton Roe   I wonder (not for the first time) what the hell ...  
Sololol   Too long has the world suffered under the tyranny ...  
Ottava   David Gerard assesses JSTOR as a "problem th...  
Text   More gleeful dancing on the skulls? :P  
dtobias   It's not actually the academics being opposed ...  
thekohser   ...academics don't actually get paid (in gene...  
Ottava   It's not actually the academics being opposed...  
Milton Roe   Look at the journal Nature vs some kid's blog...  
Ottava   I still think of the academic publishing industry...  
radek   I still think of the academic publishing industr...  
Ottava   He's not saying the editors make money - usua...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='radek' post='280785' date='Thu 21st ...  
Ottava   The closest to scientific publishing Hollywood w...  
Milton Roe   I'm a tad confused as to why you think Academ...  
Ottava   There is money to be made at the high end, and E...  
SpiderAndWeb   Most academics I know publish copies of their pape...  
thekohser   Most academics I know publish copies of their pap...  
Detective   Would you be willing to go so far as to say David...  
Milton Roe   Most academics I know publish copies of their pap...  
Abd   Most academics I know publish copies of their pape...  
SpiderAndWeb   Most academics I know publish copies of their pa...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='280808' date='Thu ...  
Ottava   u the numbers, more than you'll ever see in y...  
radek   Ugh, I got to respond to some of this. Don...  
radek   He's not saying the editors make money - usu...  
Ottava   It's probably true that most publishers don...  
radek   Does the Keats-Shelley journal appear on JSTOR? ...  
Ottava   Does the Keats-Shelley journal appear on JSTOR?...  
thekohser   Somey, it is obvious that Radek is trolling. Can ...  
The Joy   Somey, it is obvious that Radek is trolling. Can...  
Somey   [quote name='thekohser' post='280861' date='Fri 22...  
EricBarbour   So we can only hope that in this case, it's ju...  
Vigilant   Does the Keats-Shelley journal appear on JSTOR...  
Somey   ...These industries all have in common archaic bus...  
EricBarbour   :rolleyes:  
Ottava   Most journals in the humanities do not own the cop...  
Abd   DO NOT FEED THE OTTAVA  
NuclearWarfare   Abd, I just logged onto JSTOR from home, and I hav...  
radek   Abd, I just logged onto JSTOR from home, and I ha...  


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