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| jorge |
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QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:35pm)  If The (London) Times is not considered a reliable source they may as well scrap WP:RS! But it looks as though the incident is non-notable, in their view. I like how edit summary "update infobox" means "remove reference of his wife"  He is still married, although separated, right? Edit: And I reckon Jimbo let this out to cover for Gary Weiss! Are you insinuating that this might be a publicity stunt? |
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| AB |
Mon 3rd March 2008, 10:30pm
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QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:35pm) Edit: And I reckon Jimbo let this out to cover for Gary Weiss! Well, taking a publicity hit for anyone he cared about would be a compassionate thing to do.... But I'm having difficulty remembering a time when he's been that selfless? |
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| jorge |
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QUOTE(AB @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 10:30pm) QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:35pm) Edit: And I reckon Jimbo let this out to cover for Gary Weiss! Well, taking a publicity hit for anyone he cared about would be a compassionate thing to do.... But I'm having difficulty remembering a time when he's been that selfless? I don't think he "cares" about Mr. Weiss that much. If it seems that he may have been complicit with Mr. Weiss in concealing financial criminality in the stock markets then that might be something he might "care" about.... |
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| The Wales Hunter |
Mon 3rd March 2008, 11:27pm
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QUOTE(jorge @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 10:13pm) QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:35pm) If The (London) Times is not considered a reliable source they may as well scrap WP:RS! But it looks as though the incident is non-notable, in their view. I like how edit summary "update infobox" means "remove reference of his wife" He is still married, although separated, right? Edit: And I reckon Jimbo let this out to cover for Gary Weiss! Are you insinuating that this might be a publicity stunt? It sure looks like one from where I am standing! It just seems too perfect, and the spread of the story appears too well controlled, too. Too many people claim to have known about it previously for it not to have slipped out before. |
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| dogbiscuit |
Mon 3rd March 2008, 11:57pm
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QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 11:27pm)
Too many people claim to have known about it previously for it not to have slipped out before.
That is simply the "I told you so" effect. All you are seeing is the typical tabloid cycle that we get all the time in the UK. Person A does something vaguely of note. Press pick up on A. A gains credibility because of press. (a) A becomes successful and press jumps on bandwagon. A is idolised by apparently uncritical press (which at the same time is salting away juicy titbits for future use). Press become bored of success, and start moaning. A starts bemoaning the fickle press. A eventually commits/rumoured to have committed/framed into a minor/major indiscretion. Press get bored and decide it is time to press the Big Red Button and surprise, surprise, discover they have all the dirt on last week's Hero That Could Do No Wrong. At this point, A implodes and becomes no-news and vanishes. Some time later, A revives, becomes press hero for overcoming previous setback. Go to (a) Note that very few facts are needed for this loop. Perhaps those guardians of WP:V and WP:OR (aka the cabal) will realise that they did want some qualification of the mainstream press being a reliable source after all. |
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| thekohser |
Tue 4th March 2008, 3:08am
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QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:16pm) QUOTE
"Jimbo", as he is known to friends, made a fortune from Wikipedia...
Brilliant  How long before David Gerard or Charles Matthews are posting their little comments, "correcting" that Wales made his fortune in the Chicago options markets, not from Wikipedia? Come to think of it, have you ever seen a person that had to do more "explaining" and "correcting" of the press' misinformed statements about the person's activity? I can only think of one, and he leaves office this coming January. Greg |
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| Amarkov |
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:08pm) QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:16pm) QUOTE
"Jimbo", as he is known to friends, made a fortune from Wikipedia...
Brilliant How long before David Gerard or Charles Matthews are posting their little comments, "correcting" that Wales made his fortune in the Chicago options markets, not from Wikipedia? Come to think of it, have you ever seen a person that had to do more "explaining" and "correcting" of the press' misinformed statements about the person's activity? I can only think of one, and he leaves office this coming January. Greg *cough*WIKIAISANUNRELATEDENTITY*cough* |
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| Heat |
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Ms. Marsden's cyperspace breakup: tit-for-tat-for-T-shirt (Toronto) Globe and Mail QUOTE She has pleaded guilty to harassment, accused a former boyfriend of discussing national security issues in bed, and has now been dumped via Wikipedia. Leave it to Rachel Marsden, a Canadian woman with a controversial past, to bring sex scandal to an online encyclopedia and provide a cautionary tale for love in the time of electronic communication. On Saturday, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales posted a statement on the site about his romantic entanglement with Ms. Marsden, the 33-year-old conservative pundit perhaps best known for sexual harassment charges she once brought against a swim coach at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia. Ms. Marsden, who was fired from Fox News last year, apparently made Mr. Wales's acquaintance two years ago in an e-mail asking him to intervene in the editing of her online biography, which she claimed included libellous information. "I subsequently reviewed her bio and I found it not to be up to our standards," he wrote on the site this weekend. But Mr. Wales also claims to have recused himself from any involvement with her page after the two began a personal relationship, a position that seems to be contradicted by instant messages Ms. Marsden has since provided to the gossip site Valleywag.com. "Let's actually do this right now because the last thing I want to do is take a break from fucking your brains out all night to work on your Wikipedia entry  " Mr. Wales wrote. Since Mr. Wales posted his Wikipedia mea culpa, apparently ending the pair's relationship, Ms. Marsden has unleashed a cyberspace tit-for-tat or, in this case, tit-for-T-shirt. On Sunday, she posted two ads on eBay, offering for sale a T-shirt and sweater owned by Mr. Wales. "Hi, my name is Rachel and my (now ex) boyfriend, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, just broke up with me via an announcement on Wikipedia," she writes in the auction posting. "It was such a classy move that I was inspired to do something equally classy myself." Her name first became known as the centre of a 1990s sex scandal at Simon Fraser, when she alleged sexual harassment by her swim coach, who was fired and later reinstated. The coach claimed she had stalked him, allegations that were never proven. In 2004, Ms. Marsden was given a conditional discharge with one year's probation for criminally harassing a Vancouver radio host following their breakup. Since then, she has attempted to position herself as a conservative talking head, maintaining a blog of her political commentary. She was fired from the show Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld last year and has briefly written columns for both the Sun chain of newspapers and the National Post. Most recently, Ms. Marsden accused a former boyfriend, a counterterrorism officer for the Ontario Provincial Police, of leaking secret documents to her, and even posted online X-rated photographs she claimed he had sent her. In an e-mail to The Globe and Mail yesterday, she declined to comment on the situation with Mr. Wales. "My only focus right now, to be really honest, is on my career and finding a way to get back into print, TV, or radio here in NYC," she wrote. "All of this other personal stuff is just an unfortunate distraction." Isn't it refreshing that some newspapers are mature enough to include the word "fucking" in an article? BTW, if you follow the link you can "vote" to recommend the article. This post has been edited by Heat: Tue 4th March 2008, 7:56pm
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Tue 4th March 2008, 9:48pm
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QUOTE(One @ Tue 4th March 2008, 8:04pm)
This is a major daily Canadian paper? Wow.
This is the major Canadian daily paper. all those editors who demanded an article from the New York Times now have at least its Canadian equivalent. |
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