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A comment I made recently made me realise that Wikipedia will collapse when wikipedians realise their folly and begin to leave it in droves.

What will be the warning signs? How will we recognise that the end is nigh? I've been thinking and I believe that it will be worth documenting and carefully analysing when it does happen, as the dying days and collapse will be of considerable value to several fields.

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Look, let me make this very clear here - I live in Australia. What happens in America is of little concern to me - and that includes 9/11. I don't really care about it all that much one way or another. I have empathy, sure, but it doesn't affect me. It didn't happen here. I think that 9/11 is a localised American issue that had no business being in international news. It has, and I object to that. I get very irritated at that. I think that it has become far, far more important than it needed to have been.

Therefore, given that I have very little interest in it, I obviously don't know anything about the "9/11 truth movement" or any of the other movements. I don't know if it is true or not.

My passing interest is that it seems to be a complex issue, and whilst we can perhaps suggest some things that seem to be pretty obvious, there are a lot of unknowns, and henceforth so-called conspiracy theories belong in this kind of issue. Where there are unknowns, there are theories. This is fair and reasonable.

As for people being experts, obviously if you are pushing the theory yourself, then you are an expert on pushing the theory.

Please, guys, I get so fucking sick of people insisting that I am interested in something when I am not. I have zero interest in 9/11. I couldn't give a shit about it. I am interested in the war in Iraq because our country is involved in that. See the difference? Until Americans start to pay attention to what happens in Australia, I don't see why I should pay attention to what happens in America, in anything more than a passing way. I mean there are people that don't even know about PA or MV Tampa for heaven's sakes, two of the biggest issues in Australian history. So why should I care about something in America, in anything more than a passing way? I am sorry, Americans, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Many people like to be interested in their own country's affairs.
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QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Tue 11th September 2007, 6:58am) *

I think that 9/11 is a localised American issue that had no business being in international news.

I must admit that at first glance, your post looks absolutely insane, Bliss. But then, I guess that for a lot of us, if we lived somewhere like Tasmania, we wouldn't care a lot about these things either.

Fair dinkum, sport. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(Kato @ Tue 11th September 2007, 11:17am) *

I must admit that at first glance, your post looks absolutely insane, Bliss. But then, I guess that for a lot of us, if we lived somewhere like Tasmania, we wouldn't care a lot about these things either.

Fair dinkum, sport. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

What Blissy is missing of course is that the Iraq war probably wouldn't have happened were it not for 911.
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QUOTE(jorge @ Tue 11th September 2007, 9:52pm) *

QUOTE(Kato @ Tue 11th September 2007, 11:17am) *

I must admit that at first glance, your post looks absolutely insane, Bliss. But then, I guess that for a lot of us, if we lived somewhere like Tasmania, we wouldn't care a lot about these things either.

Fair dinkum, sport. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

What Blissy is missing of course is that the Iraq war probably wouldn't have happened were it not for 911.

No I am not missing that. That is why I have a passing interest. But I don't see the need to get all involved in it. I deliberately refuse to learn too much about American internal politics. If I want to learn about American internal politics, I'll go and live in America. I have enough difficulty dealing with our own politics.

Now, if anyone wants to talk about how 9/11 was used as a cover up for the MV Tampa crisis, then that is something that I can get in to. Not that 9/11 was planned or anything, but just that it was used as a political scapegoat to hide the obvious tragedy of the MV Tampa crisis, and the guilt of the federal government (not to mention ASIO) in their handling of it. That is something that I know about. 9/11 itself, blah, I mean it had far too much publicity. I can understand it having that much publicity in USA, but seriously, if that had happened in Australia would anyone have cared?
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