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What are you doing, SV?, A brief review of Slim & "Animal Rights" |
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 26th March 2009, 7:00pm) What are your other accounts, SV/HFO? Do you have a problem with Tryptofish because he/she disagrees with some of the content in a certain article? LOL. Didn't I opine somewhere that women in particular get nutty about the gender of things? In this case, we don't know the monkey's gender, but SV doesn't want it to be called "it" but "she". But SV would have no problem with "it" if it was a castrated monkey. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) And if SV should ever have occasion to be castrated itself, I have no doubt that it will have no problem with people refering to it, from then-on, as "it." (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/happy.gif) Personally, I've thought of SV as "it" for some time, now. But that's just me.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 26th March 2009, 11:27pm) I wonder if SV has enough social capital left on WP to even get a checkuser done? Possibly, but if it turns out that this is someone like FT2 or one of the members of the Bishonen/Giano/Geogre club, that could backfire on her. Then again, it's impossible to say how these things will play out these days. Still, there's no legitimate reason to think this person isn't legitimate, just because he/she happens to have shown up on Animal Rights (T-H-L-K-D), Atheism (T-H-L-K-D), and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (T-H-L-K-D) all within the same month. Oddly enough, when this same sort of thing happens to Don Murphy, nobody seems to mind so much! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)
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Cla68 |
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QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 27th March 2009, 5:32am) QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 26th March 2009, 11:27pm) I wonder if SV has enough social capital left on WP to even get a checkuser done? Possibly, but if it turns out that this is someone like FT2 or one of the members of the Bishonen/Giano/Geogre club, that could backfire on her. Then again, it's impossible to say how these things will play out these days. Still, there's no legitimate reason to think this person isn't legitimate, just because he/she happens to have shown up on Animal Rights (T-H-L-K-D), Atheism (T-H-L-K-D), and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (T-H-L-K-D) all within the same month. Oddly enough, when this same sort of thing happens to Don Murphy, nobody seems to mind so much! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) Well, Tryptofish did seem to know how to push her buttons. Unfortunately, SV responded by reverting back to old form with edit warring, moving comments around on the talk page, personalizing the argument, then attacking the editor on his/her userpage. Some editors don't seem to understand what a wiki is. One of the ramifications of a wiki is that you can spend 20-hours a day for two or three years constructing a select list of articles exactly the way you want them to read, and then someone can come along and change the entire tone of each article within 30-minutes to an hour with some strategic editing. If, as an editor, you can't accept that, then Wikipedia is not the venue for you.
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 26th March 2009, 7:00pm) What are your other accounts, SV/HFO? Do you have a problem with Tryptofish because he/she disagrees with some of the content in a certain article? I've always been in favor of shining light on these creepy tactics, and this is a good one. It is widespread, though SlimVirgin is a leading participant. You can bet that if one of the Kabal asks this question, you are not long for Wikipedia. Some other links: - Slim asks Applensauce (T-C-L-K-R-D)
the question, and he/she/it is soon after blocked. Same with Axxaer (T-C-L-K-R-D)
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- Slim and Jayjg tag-team Katie_Jemson (T-C-L-K-R-D)
in the same way.
- The triple-threat of Slim, Jayjg, and IronDuke conspire to do the same here, here, and here.
- IronDuke (T-C-L-K-R-D)
, Jayjg's meatpuppet and Special Helper In Training follows suit on his own here and here, but he's only a little S.H.I.T, so he only does it to IPs who edit in ways that displease him.
The message here is: if you stay away from articles Slim, Jayjg, or their cabal WP:OWN, then do your will, but edit in a way a powerful admin doesn't like, and you're immediately accused of being the dreaded "sockpuppet", if only on the basis of one or two edits!
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QUOTE(gomi @ Thu 26th March 2009, 11:46pm) QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 26th March 2009, 7:00pm) What are your other accounts, SV/HFO? Do you have a problem with Tryptofish because he/she disagrees with some of the content in a certain article? I've always been in favor of shining light on these creepy tactics, and this is a good one. It is widespread, though SlimVirgin is a leading participant. You can bet that if one of the Kabal asks this question, you are not long for Wikipedia. Some other links: - Slim asks Applensauce (T-C-L-K-R-D)
the question, and he/she/it is soon after blocked. Same with Axxaer (T-C-L-K-R-D)
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- Slim and Jayjg tag-team Katie_Jemson (T-C-L-K-R-D)
in the same way.
- The triple-threat of Slim, Jayjg, and IronDuke conspire to do the same here, here, and here.
- IronDuke (T-C-L-K-R-D)
, Jayjg's meatpuppet and Special Helper In Training follows suit on his own here and here, but he's only a little S.H.I.T, so he only does it to IPs who edit in ways that displease him.
The message here is: if you stay away from articles Slim, Jayjg, or their cabal WP:OWN, then do your will, but edit in a way a powerful admin doesn't like, and you're immediately accused of being the dreaded "sockpuppet", if only on the basis of one or two edits! But the power at the top is apparently all fine with this. Its gone on for a while it seems. So certainly, if they think that it is probably fine that all this goes on. They must be right. Nothing's amiss, nothing to see here. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif)
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QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Thu 26th March 2009, 11:59pm) QUOTE(gomi @ Fri 27th March 2009, 6:46am) I've always been in favor of shining light on these creepy tactics, and this is a good one. We think the same way! QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 17th September 2007, 4:15pm) If you want to bait her, start messing gently with the PETA and other "animal rights" pages. Aww, Proab, I understand you feel the all-consuming urge to defend SlimVirgin, but you left out the context: QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 17th September 2007, 9:15am) She stopped editing in August, started again briefly, and now has stopped for a couple of weeks. .... If I had to bet, I would say that she'll be back. Really! To paraphrase that old C&W song, How Can We Miss Her if She Won't Go Away?
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QUOTE(gomi @ Fri 27th March 2009, 7:58am) QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Thu 26th March 2009, 11:59pm) QUOTE(gomi @ Fri 27th March 2009, 6:46am) I've always been in favor of shining light on these creepy tactics, and this is a good one. We think the same way! QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 17th September 2007, 4:15pm) If you want to bait her, start messing gently with the PETA and other "animal rights" pages. Aww, Proab, I understand you feel the all-consuming urge to defend SlimVirgin, but you left out the context: QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 17th September 2007, 9:15am) She stopped editing in August, started again briefly, and now has stopped for a couple of weeks. .... If I had to bet, I would say that she'll be back. Okay. So what happened in the few weeks following that post? Did any such baiting occur, to your knowledge?
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QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Fri 27th March 2009, 1:04am) Okay. So what happened in the few weeks following that post? Did any such baiting occur, to your knowledge? Judge for yourself: here is the relevant history for PETA (T-H-L-K-D), and here for Animal Rights (T-H-L-K-D). In the first case, a little garden-variety vandalism by IPs, but nothing qualifying as "gentle messing", and in the latter, nothing to speak of.
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QUOTE(gomi @ Fri 27th March 2009, 8:22am) QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Fri 27th March 2009, 1:04am) Okay. So what happened in the few weeks following that post? Did any such baiting occur, to your knowledge? Judge for yourself: here is the relevant history for PETA (T-H-L-K-D), and here for Animal Rights (T-H-L-K-D). In the first case, a little garden-variety vandalism by IPs, but nothing qualifying as "gentle messing", and in the latter, nothing to speak of. Okay. So, to be perfectly clear, Gomi, you're not personally aware of any instances in the weeks following your post where anyone used a sockpuppet to bait SlimVirgin on animal right topics, correct?
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Apparently the thing that aggravated Slimmy on the Animal Rights article was an attempt to change the photo caption at the top, so as to refer to the organ grinder's monkey as "it" rather than "she"? And then, in yet another "unwelcome compromise" case, Hq3473 (T-H-L-K-D) - an unreadable moniker if there ever was one - came along and changed the wording completely, so that it now reads, "A man holds a monkey by a rope around the neck, a scene epitomizing the idea of animal ownership"... thereby removing the monkey's-gender issue completely. Anyway, I guess it's always possible that Gomi is Tryptofish, but it's not like it's hard to figure out how to push SlimVirgin's buttons. Getting the ear-splitting alarm buzzers to stop blasting afterwards is a different story, though.
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It's amazing how much drama can be generated on Wikipedia over wurdz, innit? It's even funnier when Slimmy gets involved and ends up looking like a prannie. Again. My advice to all concerned is to simply replace all instances of "her", "it", and "its" with " Monkey! Monkey!". As for the picture, the pair of them are obviously preparing to indulge in a bit of fake-UFO photography. A few good out-of-focus shots and the monkey will make an excellent downed Venusian pilot, parachute cord wrapped round the neck. Yes; a space-parachute.
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