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29 Jun 2007 • Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, answers a question during an interview in St. Petersburg, FL. • FoxNews.com investigation into allegations of child pornography online …
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 27th February 2012, 3:21pm) *

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{{vk}} I see blue top and skin colour bikini bottom. What do you see? It illustrates a young girls Sukumizu with two parts. Seems to me she is even way past puberty. Honi soit qui mal y pense! --[[User:Paddy|Paddy]] ([[User talk:Paddy|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


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{{vk}}, agree with analysis by {{user|Niabot}}. And also {{user|Paddy}} has it right — it's a skin-colour bikini bottom. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 20:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


Why are these people claiming to know that it's a "skin-colour bikini bottom"? How do they know the intentions of the artist / uploader? Can they read the artist's mind from behind a computer screen? How many children wear skin-colored swimwear? How many parents want their children to be paraded around a school pool in skin-colored swimwear? The people on Commons are denying the obvious and are making up excuses for the uploader to use later.


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{{vk}}:Uh...I think it's not child pornography, and users could use it on "Hentai" or "Ecchi".The quality is poor because it is created by mouse...--[[User:KOKUYO|KOKUYO]] ([[User talk:KOKUYO|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


This is a comment by the image's creator. The text in bold obviously indicates that it is supposed to be a bottomless lolicon. Paddy and Cirt are wrong.
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 28th February 2012, 5:17am) *

This is a comment by the image's creator. The text in bold obviously indicates that it is supposed to be a bottomless lolicon. Paddy and Cirt are wrong.

While it may be legal in some jurisdictions, as I have often pointed out, UK law deliberately closed the loophole of using artificial images to avoid pornography prosecutions and it would certainly be illegal in the UK. It doesn't really matter what Wikipedians say it is, it is down to a reasonable person's interpretation.

I think at some point Wikimedia will push the wrong buttons and it will be subject to a proper investigation. Jimbo panicked about it once, but did not solve the problem - the problem being the people running Commons who have a Free Culture attitude that is designed not to tolerate compromise. Now Jimbo is basing himself in the UK, he will find he cannot use the "they are not illegal" argument and his purge was long ago now to show that there was not the will to complete the task, it was for show.

The root cause of many of these problems is that wider Internet culture which makes it appear morally correct to defend freedoms of those who demand the right to indulge their whims. My biggest problem is that we see that WikiCulture gets dragged into the real world and here we have a group basically suggesting child porn is fine and it is a problem with the real world being closed minded or old fashioned.

In the real world I don't have a problem with people finding physically mature under-age teenagers sexually attractive, but then there is an adult responsibility not to take advantage of someone who might be mature physically but cannot be presumed to be mature mentally and socially (and an adult responsibility to discourage immature children from taking advantage of immature children, though Wikipedia culture seems to suggest that consensual underage sex is just educational). This is worse because it is encouraging sexual interest in children who are not mature physically, mentally or socially and people are being encouraged to believe that such interactions in the real world are right, proper and appropriate.
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