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[Daniel Brandt]

Announcing SlimSearch. Search 59,000 of SlimVirgin's edit summaries. "As easy as finding a virgin in a haystack."

This was simple to set up because I merely had to modify the hostmask program slightly. If Slim starts up another sock on Wikipedia, I'll add a search of the 43 User_talk archived pages I have. That will require more effort, so I'm not doing that yet.

[nobs]

Announcing SlimSearch. Search 59,000 of SlimVirgin's edit summaries. "As easy as finding a virgin in a haystack."

This was simple to set up because I merely had to modify the hostmask program slightly. If Slim starts up another sock on Wikipedia, I'll add a search of the 43 User_talk archived pages I have. That will require more effort, so I'm not doing that yet.

Very good. Notice slanders of Mr. Laird Wilcox were REDFLAGGED by myself with SV's response (2005-09-21 19:24 Talk:Chip Berlet (->Laird Wilcox)) poopooing it. Nothing was done. On October 30 2005 another critic of Mr. Berlet was slandered. Both these vicitims of a malicious defamatory smear camapign occured prior to WP:BLP, and WP:REDFLAG.

Nobs01 conducted a breaching experiment, or disruption to mark the point in time how WP was being used systematically to discredit Mr. Berlet's critics. That is the very first principal resolution in Nobs01 case. Nobs01 closing statement, reads "I'll take the bullit on this one. Evidently Wikipedia is better and more improved now (see WP:V#Dubious sources). " WP:BLP & the REDFLAG provision soon followed.

Ironic, however, that the primary author of BLP did nothing when I REDFLAGGED slanders of Wilcox, and proceeded to slander another critic of Mr. Berlet by creating the Danial Brandt page.

This post has been edited by nobs: Sun 21st October 2007, 9:13pm

[blissyu2]

Can we compare it with User:Privatemusings ?

[KamrynMatika]

Errr... what is the point of this?

[jorge]

Errr... what is the point of this?

To find SlimVirgin's sockpuppets.

[KamrynMatika]

Errr... what is the point of this?

To find SlimVirgin's sockpuppets.

Why? If her accounts are abusive they will stand up as abusive by themselves. And there are a billion more abusive users abusing socks every day.

WR's stupid obsession with SV makes me sad.

[Piperdown]

Errr... what is the point of this?

To find SlimVirgin's sockpuppets.

Why? If her accounts are abusive they will stand up as abusive by themselves. And there are a billion more abusive users abusing socks every day.

WR's stupid obsession with SV makes me sad.

WP's allowing SV to continue to participate in WP makes me sad. But that's just me I guess. I expect people to follow their own rules and not wield power hypocritically.

[KamrynMatika]

WP's allowing SV to continue to participate in WP makes me sad. But that's just me I guess. I expect people to follow their own rules and not wield power hypocritically.

Adminship of wikipedia isn't power. How ironic that the people WR is trying to take power from are the people it is giving power to.

[Piperdown]

WP's allowing SV to continue to participate in WP makes me sad. But that's just me I guess. I expect people to follow their own rules and not wield power hypocritically.

Adminship of wikipedia isn't power. How ironic that the people WR is trying to take power from are the people it is giving power to.

If you can ban people wily nilly on WP, you have power on WP. She does have that. She has tried to anonymously change and/or control articles about and directly affecting persons that she has personal grudges/etc with. Salinger and Byrne to start.

Do you want a more extensive list of how she has abused WP? Really? You actually need that at this point? Or do you just follow Jimmy Wales' Today's Version of Ethics That Apply Now?

[Emperor]

WR's stupid obsession with SV makes me sad.

I agree. I don't think any of us believe that she should be immune from criticism, but the response here has been disproportionate to anything she might have done.

[Piperdown]

WR's stupid obsession with SV makes me sad.

I agree. I don't think any of us believe that she should be immune from criticism, but the response here has been disproportionate to anything she might have done.

She's still allowed to administer WP. That is disproproportionate to what she has done. Her bans of people for looking at her crisscross-eyed is disproportionate.

Her edits to Salinger alone without revealing that he fired her should have her banned from WP. Why do you think she had Jayjg erase them? Privacy? No. Those edits reveal nothing specific about who made them. Except that they came from someone with a bunny-boiling grudge.

Her double voting with a sock, ditto. 2 years ago, whatever. How many times has it happened since. She was not caught in the interim, so had no incentive to quit. If you think that Sweet Blue Water was her only double vote, and her only sock up until these things started getting exposed, you probably do not have the odds are your bets on that in your favour.

Everyone's sick of it, yes. That doesn't mean it should be allowed to continue.

There has not been a word uttered on WP about Jayjg lately. Funny, huh? Never happened, nothing to see here, move along. Wales' hypocrisy is a joke.

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Mon 22nd October 2007, 4:59pm

[Emperor]

She's still allowed to administer WP. That is disproproportionate to what she has done. Her bans of people for looking at her crisscross-eyed is disproportionate.

Yes I understand she is a terrible administrator and not good for Wikipedia or the world, but at the same time, I think custom-designing tools to track her and calling her a spy and keeping files on her dogs and probable locations, etc. is overkill for the problem. Really she is just one exceptionally bad cog in a machine that never worked right to begin with.

[Kato]

Everyone's sick of it, yes. That doesn't mean it should be allowed to continue.

Well, maybe it does? New information is welcome, rehashing old information is really tiring and is why the idea was mooted to lock these SV threads when they start looking like overkill.

Reviewers, there's a swamp of corruption out there in WP World that needs our attention. SV is only one component. Don thine Deerstalkers and Magnifying glasses and report it where it can be found!

[GlassBeadGame]

Yes I understand she is a terrible administrator and not good for Wikipedia or the world, but at the same time, I think custom-designing tools to track her and calling her a spy and keeping files on her dogs and probable locations, etc. is overkill for the problem. Really she is just one exceptionally bad cog in a machine that never worked right to begin with.

You know about the secret dog surveillance? Shhhhh...we are on the verge of turning that puppy.

[Piperdown]

Announcing SlimSearch. Search 59,000 of SlimVirgin's edit summaries. "As easy as finding a virgin in a haystack."

This was simple to set up because I merely had to modify the hostmask program slightly. If Slim starts up another sock on Wikipedia, I'll add a search of the 43 User_talk archived pages I have. That will require more effort, so I'm not doing that yet.

Study this list. It's a redundancy-edited (not erased by Jayjg) composite of edits made by SV with "Sockpuppet" in it.

SV, the double-voting sockpuppeter, doesn't like others who sockpuppet. Or double vote. The current context of this in hilarious - enjoy:

2004-12-01 17:57 User talk:Weed Harper (->Sockpuppet?)
2004-12-31 22:42 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard (->Sockpuppets of User:Alberuni)
2005-01-29 08:01 User:SlimVirgin/Sock (->Evidence of using sockpuppets)
2005-01-29 09:08 User:SlimVirgin/Sock (->Evidence of sockpuppetry)
2005-01-29 12:04 User:SlimVirgin/Sock (->Evidence of using sockpuppets to violate policies)
2005-01-30 04:27 m Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Lyndon LaRouche 2/Evidence (->Using sockpuppets to giving the impression of broad support for a position)
2005-04-08 14:32 User talk:Sandleroneill (sockpuppetry: pointless waste of time)
2005-04-08 19:52 User talk:Mel Etitis (Oliver North sockpuppets)
2005-04-09 21:43 Talk:Oliver North (->Sockpuppet update)
2005-04-11 08:51 Talk:Oliver North (->Sockpuppet update)
2005-04-12 03:40 m Oliver North (removed mention of criminality to keep the sockpuppets happy)
2005-05-13 21:26 User talk:Gillian Tipson (sockpuppets)
2005-05-24 02:36 User:Fredwall (sockpuppet)
2005-05-26 00:03 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->User:ElKabong - another sockpuppet)
2005-05-26 19:36 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration (->User:KaintheScion, User:ElKabong, and all associated sockpuppets -added names to statements)
2005-06-07 03:10 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Triple Curve (->Triple Curve - sockpuppet)
2005-06-11 10:16 User talk:Eyeon (User:Eyeon seems determined to delete all mention of nonsense articles, sockpuppetry, and changing people's votes on VfD from this talk page)
2005-06-14 02:00 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->Sockpuppet check)
2005-06-18 05:11 User talk:Poetatoe (->Vandalism report - blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Thodin) (top)
2005-06-21 19:13 User:KaintheScion (added sockpuppet notice and link to WP:AN)
2005-08-07 07:56 User talk:Golbez/Archive San (sockpuppetry)
2005-08-09 08:29 User talk:Saxifrage (sockpuppet)
2005-09-12 01:47 User talk:David Gerard (->Sockpuppet check request)
2005-09-18 01:16 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Yuber/Evidence (->Yuber's sockpuppets)
2005-09-20 07:19 User:Jayjg/Alberuni (->Editor attacking sockpuppet names - added one from May)
2005-10-27 16:47 Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Anonymous editor (->Sockpuppetry)
2005-12-01 04:06 User talk:Chaosfeary (->Sockpuppet allegations)
2005-12-21 23:37 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive9 (->User:Dhimmi - admits he's a sockpuppet)
2005-12-26 10:13 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->Rachel Brown sockpuppet army blocked)
2005-12-29 21:35 Osama bin Laden (rv sockpuppet account created to violate 3RR)
2005-12-29 21:44 User talk:Farhansher (Sockpuppet accounts)
2006-01-04 02:27 User talk:Mistress Selina Kyle/Archive1 (->sockpuppet)
2006-03-02 08:00 User:A bird in the hand (sockpuppet notice)
2006-03-18 22:59 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->Zephram Stark sockpuppet - very apt)
2006-03-31 07:42 m User:SlimVirgin/Sock (moved User:SlimVirgin/Sockpuppets to User:SlimVirgin/Sock) (top)
2006-04-24 02:41 Carol Kaye (rv sockpuppet sleeper account)
2006-04-26 08:06 m User talk:Mystork (Protected User talk:Mystork: blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet account [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (top)
2006-05-14 06:53 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (Sockpuppet policy being rewritten by Zephram Stark)
2006-05-15 21:09 Wikipedia:Sock puppetry (->Tagging ''legitimate'' sockpuppet accounts - removed deleted userboxes per talk)
2006-07-06 05:31 George Washington (sprotecting against sockpuppets apparently editing as anon IPs)
2006-07-07 03:12 Wikipedia:Requests for mediation (->Involved parties - removing names added by single-issue account, including at least one sockpuppet, and I don't just mean El C)
2006-07-24 20:48 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->User:Mantanmoreland using a sockpuppet and violating policies)
2006-07-25 03:10 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->User:Mantanmoreland using a sockpuppet and violating policies - keeping related sections together)
2006-07-25 17:17 People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (removed Shalom1980 edits as he's a sockpuppet of a banned user, and do you have a reference for over one million members/supporters?)
2006-07-25 18:16 m User talk:Anomicene (Protected User talk:Anomicene: sockpuppet of Gnetwerker, blocked indefinitely [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
2006-07-26 23:16 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->User:Mantanmoreland using a sockpuppet and violating policies -130.15 range was Homeontherange, not WordBomb)
2006-07-29 23:42 m User talk:Bailan (Protected User talk:Bailan: sockpuppet of banned user [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (top)
2006-08-02 20:42 User talk:Theabsman (sockpuppets) (top)
2006-08-02 20:44 m User talk:Applesnsauce (Protected User talk:Applesnsauce: indefblocked sockpuppet [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (top)
2006-08-05 08:38 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->Blocking User:Homeontherange sockpuppets)
2006-08-16 09:44 Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of WordBomb (cat) (top)
2006-08-16 09:45 Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of WordBomb (cat)
2006-08-17 07:03 m User talk:BlindVenetian (Protected User talk:BlindVenetian: This sockpuppet account is blocked indefinitely; any admin looking into it should e-mail me for further details [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (top)
2006-08-17 17:38 Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Ptmccain (created page)
2006-08-17 17:39 m Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Ptmccain
2006-09-04 14:50 m User talk:D Sanchez (Protected User talk:D Sanchez: abusive sockpuppet; blocked indefinitely [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (top)
2006-09-05 05:03 m User talk:Katie Jemson (Protected User talk:Katie Jemson: abusive sockpuppet with several accounts, blocked indefinitely [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
2006-09-18 15:43 Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Jon Awbrey (see also)
2006-09-18 15:46 Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Jon Awbrey (cat)
2006-09-18 22:23 Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of JonGwynne (cat)
2006-09-27 17:16 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano/Workshop (->Use of Sockpuppet accounts in Arbcom procedings is strongly discouraged)
2006-10-07 23:26 Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Giano/Proposed decision (->Anyone else's sockpuppet)
2006-11-08 00:59 Wilhelm Reich (please read the sources, don't stalk me, and answer the question on your talk page regarding whose sockpuppet you are)
2006-11-10 22:13 Animal liberation movement (->Nature of the movement - removing Homey sockpuppet claims about Nazi animal protection legislation being anti-Semitic because that had nothing to do with AR then, or today)
2006-11-10 22:21 Animal liberation movement (->Campaigns against ritual slaughter - this has nothing to do with animal rights, but animal *welfare*, and the bans affect Jews and Muslims equally: this material was added by a Homey sockpuppet)
2007-01-22 21:07 Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Ptmccain (some dynamic IPs)
2007-02-04 01:00 Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Marsden (created page)
2007-04-10 23:54 Template:Sockpuppet (or meatpuppet)
2007-04-10 23:56 Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Herschelkrustofsky (created page)
2007-04-12 06:59 Template:Sockpuppet (it's helpful to include it)
2007-04-18 21:35 Animal Liberation Front (SpinyNorman, you're banned; stop your sockpuppetry and edit warring)
2007-05-02 19:52 Factory farming (rv sockpuppet)
2007-06-02 20:56 Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Gracenotes/Bureaucrat chat (->Sockpuppet votes)
2007-06-28 22:58 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (->False sockpuppet accusations)

That last one was where she accused me. And then deleted the proof that she accused me.

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Mon 22nd October 2007, 5:18pm

[Sxeptomaniac]

There has not been a word uttered on WP about Jayjg lately. Funny, huh? Never happened, nothing to see here, move along. Wales' hypocrisy is a joke.

That depends... is there anything new to say? Why rehash the same stuff over and over without any purpose?

The same principle applies to SV, I believe. At a certain point, it just crosses the line into obsession, at which point any valid points are lost on anyone who happens to look into it, because it just looks crazy.

[thekohser]

There has not been a word uttered on WP about Jayjg lately. Funny, huh? Never happened, nothing to see here, move along. Wales' hypocrisy is a joke.

That depends... is there anything new to say? Why rehash the same stuff over and over without any purpose?

The same principle applies to SV, I believe. At a certain point, it just crosses the line into obsession, at which point any valid points are lost on anyone who happens to look into it, because it just looks crazy.

Count me among those who doesn't get all worked up over SlimVirgin and Jayjg.

However, you know how I feel about Jimmy Wales. And when he tells us something like this...

Asking for accountability is fine. You know that I strongly support
transparency and accountability. You are attempting, without much
success, to put a spin on this that no makes no sense at all.

We are having a private discussion by email. This is normal, we do it
all the time. Anything that happens about this will be made clear and
public and transparent. -- Jimmy Wales (August 27, 2007)

...I expect to hear something "clear and public and transparent" back from him within at least seven weeks. But, it's been over seven weeks, and all we hear are the crickets, chirping their tune of "Jimbo is a deflecting, spineless, lying, manipulator."

Greg

[Piperdown]

There has not been a word uttered on WP about Jayjg lately. Funny, huh? Never happened, nothing to see here, move along. Wales' hypocrisy is a joke.

That depends... is there anything new to say? Why rehash the same stuff over and over without any purpose?

The same principle applies to SV, I believe. At a certain point, it just crosses the line into obsession, at which point any valid points are lost on anyone who happens to look into it, because it just looks crazy.

You didn't read what you just quoted. WP, not WR. Not a peep on WP about what Jayjg did. His account is still active. His checkuser/admin tools apear to still be on. No corrective action has been taken that is accountable to the "community".

Not only is that wikicrazy, it's a blatant kick in the nuts to the honest members of that community.

Same goes for Maj. Jay Burns's hotlips, SweetBlueVirginSplash. Colonel Jimbo Blake has been truly gone fishing ever since.

There has not been a word uttered on WP about Jayjg lately. Funny, huh? Never happened, nothing to see here, move along. Wales' hypocrisy is a joke.

That depends... is there anything new to say? Why rehash the same stuff over and over without any purpose?

The same principle applies to SV, I believe. At a certain point, it just crosses the line into obsession, at which point any valid points are lost on anyone who happens to look into it, because it just looks crazy.

Count me among those who doesn't get all worked up over SlimVirgin and Jayjg.

However, you know how I feel about Jimmy Wales. And when he tells us something like this...

Asking for accountability is fine. You know that I strongly support
transparency and accountability. You are attempting, without much
success, to put a spin on this that no makes no sense at all.

We are having a private discussion by email. This is normal, we do it
all the time. Anything that happens about this will be made clear and
public and transparent. -- Jimmy Wales (August 27, 2007)

...I expect to hear something "clear and public and transparent" back from him within at least seven weeks. But, it's been over seven weeks, and all we hear are the crickets, chirping their tune of "Jimbo is a deflecting, spineless, lying, manipulator."

Greg

I can guess at his response, when cornered. He has no problem with that. Unless a publication that can give him bad publicity does.

You know, like Ms. Schiff and the New Yorker. Then the ethics change.

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Mon 22nd October 2007, 7:54pm

[Sxeptomaniac]

There has not been a word uttered on WP about Jayjg lately. Funny, huh? Never happened, nothing to see here, move along. Wales' hypocrisy is a joke.

That depends... is there anything new to say? Why rehash the same stuff over and over without any purpose?

The same principle applies to SV, I believe. At a certain point, it just crosses the line into obsession, at which point any valid points are lost on anyone who happens to look into it, because it just looks crazy.

You didn't read what you just quoted. WP, not WR. Not a peep on WP about what Jayjg did. His account is still active. His checkuser/admin tools apear to still be on. No corrective action has been taken that is accountable to the "community".

Interesting that you assume I misread. I did not.

[Jonny Cache]

Interesting that you assume I misread. I did not.

O, I C, wikipedism is next to recentism …

Jonny