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> It's that time again!, Time for 2011 arbcom elections.
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 3:14am
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I was gonna make a "what if only voter guide writers voted" list but Monty845 beat me to it.

IF the voter guide voters are representative of ArbCom election voters (who are themselves probably not representative of Wikipedia as a whole) then we'll get

Courcelles, Risker, Hersfold, SilkTork, AGK, Kirill Lokshin, Worm That Turned, Roger Davies


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal.../Candidates/Kww

I'm getting the feeling that Kww is going to have a better chance at obtaining a seat than what Monty845 is predicting.


Along with Geni he's one of the "anyone but these guys" candidates. His replies to the questiosn pretty much show him to be both a bully and an ass-kisser. That may be redundant, actually, but anyway...


Are we really that desperate? I would rather vote for Hot Stop than Kww.
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 7:33am
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I voted oppose on all of them. I wonder what would happen if others followed my lead?
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 9:55am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Mon 28th November 2011, 11:33pm) *

I voted oppose on all of them. I wonder what would happen if others followed my lead?


I voted support for Kirill, AGK, NWA, and Hot Stop.
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 12:28pm
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 28th November 2011, 3:15pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal.../Candidates/Kww

I'm getting the feeling that Kww is going to have a better chance at obtaining a seat than what Monty845 is predicting.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=462903778

Hopefully, not all of Wikipedia's voters will be this guy.
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 2:32pm
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I will only vote for candidates who pledge transparency--who promise to conduct their deliberations out in the open. I only see one candidate (AGK) who has something to that effect in his statement. Have any other candidates made a similar pledge? Or would they like to do so now? I will vote against all candidates who haven't pledged transparency, and I urge everyone else to do likewise.
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 3:32pm
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I will only vote for candidates who pledge transparency--who promise to conduct their deliberations out in the open. I only see one candidate (AGK) who has something to that effect in his statement. Have any other candidates made a similar pledge? Or would they like to do so now? I will vote against all candidates who haven't pledged transparency, and I urge everyone else to do likewise.


Transparency + Arbcom = LOGIC ERROR
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 4:22pm
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QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 29th November 2011, 9:32am) *

QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 29th November 2011, 2:32pm) *

I will only vote for candidates who pledge transparency--who promise to conduct their deliberations out in the open. I only see one candidate (AGK) who has something to that effect in his statement. Have any other candidates made a similar pledge? Or would they like to do so now? I will vote against all candidates who haven't pledged transparency, and I urge everyone else to do likewise.


Transparency + Arbcom = LOGIC ERROR

I wonder what would happen if the community decided to force arbcom to be transparent.

If that's even possible anyway
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 4:25pm
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I wonder what would happen if the community decided to force arbcom to be transparent.
The only way for that to happen would be if all the administrators agreed to ignore ArbCom, or if all the editors decided to quit editing. What are the odds of either of those things happening?
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post Wed 30th November 2011, 3:38am
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 29th November 2011, 6:28am) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 28th November 2011, 3:15pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal.../Candidates/Kww

I'm getting the feeling that Kww is going to have a better chance at obtaining a seat than what Monty845 is predicting.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=462903778

Hopefully, not all of Wikipedia's voters will be this guy.


I think you have an extra word in that sentence.
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post Wed 30th November 2011, 2:04pm
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QUOTE(radek @ Tue 29th November 2011, 10:38pm) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 29th November 2011, 6:28am) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=462903778

Hopefully, not all of Wikipedia's voters will be this guy.


I think you have an extra word in that sentence.


QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 29th November 2011, 6:28am) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=462903778

All of Wikipedia's voters will be this guy.


Fixed ;) (although I removed two words instead of one).
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post Thu 1st December 2011, 6:34pm
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I don't think I've seen as big of a backlash against a sitting arb as there has been for Coren in the guides. Too bad votes aren't public anymore so we can't see who's going which way.
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post Fri 2nd December 2011, 12:08am
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Well, I've cast my vote, oh the excitement!

Democracy is such a disappointment, it's like a beautifully wrapped gift that turns out to be an empty box.

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post Fri 2nd December 2011, 2:31am
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Thu 1st December 2011, 7:08pm) *

Well, I've cast my vote, oh the excitement!

Democracy is such a disappointment, it's like a beautifully wrapped gift that turns out to be an empty box.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H.L. Mencken

These elections always deliver smile.gif
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post Tue 6th December 2011, 1:45am
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QUOTE(Sololol @ Fri 2nd December 2011, 2:31am) *

QUOTE(RMHED @ Thu 1st December 2011, 7:08pm) *

Well, I've cast my vote, oh the excitement!

Democracy is such a disappointment, it's like a beautifully wrapped gift that turns out to be an empty box.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H.L. Mencken

These elections always deliver smile.gif

Well I've now voted five times in total, all using different computers and a variety of ISP's.

I do love democracy, it's so democratic.
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post Thu 8th December 2011, 1:52am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mis...on/User:NWA.Rep

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r=2011&month=12

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r=2011&month=12

I see that the Wikipedians are giving candidate NWA.Rep a tough time. Seeing NWA.Rep's recent contributions, it appears as if they're frustrating him to the point where he might retire from editing again.

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post Fri 9th December 2011, 6:00am
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Wed 7th December 2011, 5:52pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mis...on/User:NWA.Rep

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r=2011&month=12

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r=2011&month=12

I see that the Wikipedians are giving candidate NWA.Rep a tough time. Seeing NWA.Rep's recent contributions, it appears as if they're frustrating him to the point where he might retire from editing again.


It is really a pity. He is the Ron Paul of Wikipedia. His viewpoints resonate with Wikipedians who only casually edit the encyclopedia, but the establishment do not want someone to challenge them. Many of the Wikipedians who are stirring up trouble about his userpage this time apparently are the same ones who urge the community to vote against him on their candidate guides.

I think the Wikipedians are clearly baiting him to get him blocked during election. They knew from past precedents (not the first time his userpage was nominated for deletion or being edit warred over) how he would react. So they keep poking until they get a reaction out of him. It would be a pity if he retires again.
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post Fri 9th December 2011, 4:40pm
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QUOTE(opinionated spectator @ Fri 9th December 2011, 6:00am) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Wed 7th December 2011, 5:52pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mis...on/User:NWA.Rep

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r=2011&month=12

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r=2011&month=12

I see that the Wikipedians are giving candidate NWA.Rep a tough time. Seeing NWA.Rep's recent contributions, it appears as if they're frustrating him to the point where he might retire from editing again.


It is really a pity. He is the Ron Paul of Wikipedia. His viewpoints resonate with Wikipedians who only casually edit the encyclopedia, but the establishment do not want someone to challenge them. Many of the Wikipedians who are stirring up trouble about his userpage this time apparently are the same ones who urge the community to vote against him on their candidate guides.

I think the Wikipedians are clearly baiting him to get him blocked during election. They knew from past precedents (not the first time his userpage was nominated for deletion or being edit warred over) how he would react. So they keep poking until they get a reaction out of him. It would be a pity if he retires again.


I know nothing about NWA.Rep , but I do know Anna Frodesiak. She's one of wikipedia bullies. Once she bullied me to a point that an admin removed her bullying from my talk, and warned her not to re-post it.
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post Fri 9th December 2011, 6:54pm
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I know nothing about NWA.Rep , but I do know Anna Frodesiak. She's one of wikipedia bullies. Once she bullied me to a point that an admin removed her bullying from my talk, and warned her not to re-post it.


Link pls.
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post Fri 9th December 2011, 8:52pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Fri 9th December 2011, 6:54pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Fri 9th December 2011, 4:40pm) *

I know nothing about NWA.Rep , but I do know Anna Frodesiak. She's one of wikipedia bullies. Once she bullied me to a point that an admin removed her bullying from my talk, and warned her not to re-post it.


Link pls.

here it is
And now rethinking my post, I believe I should not have said "She's one of wikipedia bullies." This kind of discretion is rather subjective, and might be wrong.

What I probably should have said is this:
"I know nothing about NWA.Rep , but I do know Anna Frodesiak. Her conduct with NWA.Rep reminded to me her conduct with me.I had a very unpleasant experience with her. I felt she bullied me, and at least one admin believed her post at my talk was unhelpful."

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post Sat 10th December 2011, 5:09am
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Tue 6th December 2011, 1:45am) *

Well I've now voted five times in total, all using different computers and a variety of ISP's.
I do love democracy, it's so democratic.


You actually think anybody is counting? The house always wins.

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