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I felt a sincere need to highlight this post by Everyking (T-C-L-K-R-D) here on the Review:
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 23rd February 2010, 6:04pm) *
I can't see the basis for blocking someone for real world activity. Obviously he's being punished in the real world, and he's using a legal means as a conduit to editing Wikipedia. If people are to be blocked for something like "possessing child porn", what about other crimes? Credit card fraud? Terrorism? Do they both warrant Wikipedia sanctions, or neither?

The context was a discussion of an apparent convicted pedophile editing Wikipedia, and Everyking seems to have taken another step or five away from any social norms or objective reality in his position that someone -- someone convicted of sourcing just about the only kind of pornography from the Internet that is still illegal -- should in no way be hindered from editing Wikipedia.

Call someone an "asshole" -- lifetime ban. Commit a felony involving child porn -- welcome! What a strange world you inhabit.
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As a Wikipedia Review celebrity, I am always delighted when my views get top billing around here. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

I am very happy to see law enforcement deal with pedophiles in an appropriate manner, but I think Wikipedia participation should be evaluated on the basis on Wikipedia conduct. Did you know that there are actually pedophiles who have served prison time and yet now walk free--capable of doing various things that might potentially enable them to groom children? The only solution is to just watch them. On Wikipedia, if we know a pedophile is editing, we can simply keep a close eye on the account. If the pedophile is banned and starts a new account, we lose that ability unless we at some point identify the user again.

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QUOTE(everyking @ Wed 24th February 2010, 2:13am) *

As a Wikipedia Review celebrity, I am always delighted when my views get top billing around here. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

I am very happy to see law enforcement deal with pedophiles in an appropriate manner, but I think Wikipedia participation should be evaluated on the basis on Wikipedia conduct. Did you know that there are actually pedophiles who have served prison time and yet now walk free--capable of doing various things that might potentially enable them to groom children? The only solution is to just watch them. On Wikipedia, if we know a pedophile is editing, we can simply keep a close eye on the account. If the pedophile is banned and starts a new account, we lose that ability unless we at some point identify the user again.


That is dishonest, two cute by half reasoning. The solution is get rid of them. You can't watch their email communication which is of course the most dangerous. Tyciol made a point of putting every piece of private contact information, email, chat, pm etc everywhere he could.

What is Everyking's conditions for recall? Someone should bring him up for recall and make it a referendum on his irresponsible position on pedophile editing.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 24th February 2010, 11:49am) *

What is Everyking's conditions for recall? Someone should bring him up for recall and make it a referendum on his irresponsible position on pedophile editing.

He doesn't have any; you don't think that having fought this hard to get his prize, he'll ever give it back out of choice? (Admittedly, I don't think this is a resignation issue; while he may have very dubious opinions on pedophilia, I've not seen any sign of it on Wikipedia. If he were to unblock a blocked pedo on the grounds that it breaches their basic human right to edit Wikipedia (which seems to be the tenor of his argument here), or said that he would do so if the matter arose, that would be a different issue.)
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gomi   Everyking: pedophiles can be productive editors  
One   This has been explained many times, and Everyking ...  
MZMcBride   This has been explained many times, and Everyking...  
One   This has been explained many times, and Everykin...  
Peter Damian   But since Wikipedia is as open as it is, they sho...  
SB_Johnny   [quote name='One' post='223263' date='Wed 24th Fe...  
Killiondude   [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/common...  
Krimpet   Almost as odd as describing Wikipedia as a ...  
GlassBeadGame   What is Everyking's conditions for recall? ...  
everyking   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='223277' date=...  
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='223277' date...  
CharlotteWebb   Of course I will! Here's the deal, GBG: i...  
everyking   Of course I will! Here's the deal, GBG: ...  
Hipocrite   Of course I will! Here's the deal, GBG: ...  
GlassBeadGame   Of course I will! Here's the deal, GBG:...  
everyking   How about if I ask you, using my actual WP accoun...  
GlassBeadGame   How about if I ask you, using my actual WP accou...  
everyking   Hang on to those bits, Everyking, no matter how m...  
Jon Awbrey   Hang on to those bits, Everyking, no matter how ...  
EricBarbour   [quote name='Hipocrite' post='223497' date='Thu 25...  
gomi   Hmm. And what is the most straightforward way of ...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Yes, yes, yes pedo-apologists ... "the Wikip...  
Jon Awbrey   If it were simply a question of a single person wi...  
everyking   If it were simply a question of a single person w...  
EricBarbour   I say we just ban EK, and save ourselves the waste...  
NotARepublican55   Seriously, how old is Everyking? If it were simp...  
A Horse With No Name   Seriously, how old is Everyking? He's proba...  
Zoloft   Just a n00b here, but I'd hate to see Everykin...  
Jon Awbrey   Just a n00b here, but I'd hate to see Everyki...  
NuclearWarfare   I much prefer four square to jacks, thank you ve...  
Somey   I know he said he'd prefer to have AfD's b...  
EricBarbour   Still, why is [wpuser]Herostratus still an adminis...  
Somey   Judging [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi...  
gomi   Judging from AN/I, they all think Herostratus was ...  
One   CHL will go back to being clueless ...If CHL was ...  
Milton Roe   Still, why is [wpuser]Herostratus still an admini...  
The Wales Hunter   In the wacky world of Wikipedia, suggesting editor...  
Backslashforwardslash   Paedophiles aren't bad editors. In theory they...  
Zoloft   I would not sanction an editor for Everyking's...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Are there not reasons why pedophiles are prohibite...  
everyking   Wikipedia society is counter evolutionary. Wher...  
NotARepublican55   My view is that letting pedophiles edit Wikipedia...  
everyking   My view is that letting pedophiles edit Wikipedi...  
Somey   This is a ludicrous rebuttal. Letting them edit Wi...  
Eva Destruction   Beyond that though, sure - pedophiles can fix typ...  
Peter Damian   In any event, what's important is that people...  
Zoloft   In any event, what's important is that peopl...  
everyking   This is a ludicrous rebuttal. Letting them edit W...  
NotARepublican55   [quote name='NotARepublican55' post='223563' date...  
Malleus   Yes it is, seeing as Wikipedia allows minors such...  
NotARepublican55   Don't you think that emails sent out from wik...  
taiwopanfob   My view is that letting pedophiles edit Wikipedia ...  
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='Cock-up-over-conspira...  
CharlotteWebb   Most people on Wikipedia see themselves like this...  
EricBarbour   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='223583' d...  
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='223583' ...  
A Horse With No Name   My view may, of course, be poorly informed and po...  
Cunningly Linguistic   Do other web sites allow them to pass judgment on...  
GlassBeadGame   Ashley Simpson doesn't love pedophile enablers...  
SDJ   In real life, people beat the shit out of pedophil...  
everyking   In real life, people beat the shit out of pedophi...  
SDJ   [quote name='SDJ' post='223682' date='Sat 27th Fe...  
dtobias   So, basically, what people here are saying is not ...  
GlassBeadGame   So, basically, what people here are saying is not...  
everyking   So, basically, what people here are saying is not...  
SDJ   So, basically, what people here are saying is no...  
everyking   Supporting people who are sexually attracted to a...  
SDJ   [quote name='SDJ' post='223695' date='Sat 27th Fe...  
Malleus   Supporting people who are sexually attracted to ...  
SDJ   [quote name='everyking' post='223698' date='Sat 2...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Seems to me that "pedophilia" has just b...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   A question, not a statement ... is this another co...  
Jon Awbrey   Now, tell me what the Wikipedia's position is...  
dtobias   Now, tell me what the Wikipedia's position is...  
GlassBeadGame   Now, tell me what the Wikipedia's position i...  
Jon Awbrey   Now, tell me what the Wikipedia's position i...  
Somey   Certainly, if Wikipedia happens to take a hostile ...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   To be honest, I was writing about the contributing...  
Milton Roe   I'll admit, people like the aforementioned ar...  
gomi   The reality is that my viewpoint is functionally t...  
everyking   The reality is that my viewpoint is functionally ...  
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