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William Connolley (and Polargeo) vs Lar, Global warming wars |
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 29th April 2010, 8:40pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 30th April 2010, 1:35am) I'll be watching this one from my idiosyncratic perspective of someone interested in science-related articles that strive for high levels of accuracy, excellence, and ethics in online reporting. You'll most likely end up being disappointed then. Oh, I'm resigned to the likelihood that WP will never get anywhere close to normative levels of accuracy, excellence, or ethics in online reporting. What interests me is 1) diagnosing why that is so, and 2) why there is no reasonable expectation of remedying that shortcoming.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 30th April 2010, 1:47am) QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 29th April 2010, 8:40pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 30th April 2010, 1:35am) I'll be watching this one from my idiosyncratic perspective of someone interested in science-related articles that strive for high levels of accuracy, excellence, and ethics in online reporting. You'll most likely end up being disappointed then. Oh, I'm resigned to the likelihood that WP will never get anywhere close to normative levels of accuracy, excellence, or ethics in online reporting. What interests me is 1) diagnosing why that is so, and 2) why there is no reasonable expectation of remedying that shortcoming. The answer to your second question is surely obvious. The place is run by children and idiots who value "civility" above honesty.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 29th April 2010, 6:42pm) QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 29th April 2010, 9:38pm) "Peddling" implies some kind of benefit in return. Don't see it myself. It's just a power thing. I'm an admin you're not, so I'm in charge. Why wouldn't kids love that? I would nominate Dopamine as the reward. Dopamine is the neuropeptide most commonly associated with instant gratification. Not a peptide (as are, say, the encephalins-- the brain's morphine). Dopamine is just an amino acid derivative. And there must be more to reward centers than dopamine, else Parkinson's drugs that increase dopamine in the brain (L-DOPA/carbidopa) would be addictive. Or at least pleasurable. So far as I can tell, they aren't. Much. Certainly the sympathomimetics (meth, coke, etc) are far more so. QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 29th April 2010, 6:33pm) QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 29th April 2010, 9:29pm) The place is run by children and idiots who value "civility" above honesty. So Sanger got it wrong? It's not adults peddling porn to children, but children peddling porn to adults? Teenagers peddling porn to everybody. Wow, that's unique. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) Not.
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QUOTE(Zoloft @ Thu 29th April 2010, 7:21pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 30th April 2010, 2:14am) So what cocktail of neurotransmitters would you indict as being responsible for lulz?
Hemoglobin, plasma, testosterone, and adrenaline. And piss and vinegar. Snaps, snails, puppydog tails. Not enough sugar, spice, or anything nice.
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Fri 30th April 2010, 12:34am) QUOTE(Cla68 @ Fri 30th April 2010, 1:18am) RfC time. I take it WMC did not appreciate being called on his actions. Lar doesn't either. He's quite happy to accuse others of what he himself is guilty of, or thinks they are. Just in case there's any doubt though, I firmly believe that WMC's position is at best dishonest. Can't we just ban em all? Bring me back too. : ) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 30th April 2010, 1:33am) QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 29th April 2010, 9:29pm) The place is run by children and idiots who value "civility" above honesty. So Sanger got it wrong? It's not adults peddling porn to children, but children peddling porn to adults? I think that is the argument most pedophiles make: "she came onto me". By the way, what about the BLP issues of Lar accusing WMC of doing something sneaky on Wikipedia regarding Climate Change in a parallel manner to "climategate"? Isn't that a big no-no? I don't really see any diffs or proof (no emails released yet). This post has been edited by Ottava:
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 30th April 2010, 1:11pm) In spite of all the constant bickering, revert warring, baiting, and personal attacks that occur on the global warming pages, not that many RfC's come out of it all. One reason may be because the enforcement board gives an outlet for dispute resolution. I reported Stephan Schulz to ArbCom a few weeks ago because he posted in the "admin only" section of an enforcement board discussion. Since he is rather heavily engaged in watching WMC's back in the AGW articles, I didn't think he should be involving himself as an admin. ArbCom gently declined to get involved, and lately he has started posting in that section again in protest of Lar's involvement. If that isn't controlled, the enforcement board will become a farce. I'm sure some will contend it is already, but there are a couple of admins, including Lar and LessHeard, who are actually trying to correct or manage the behavior of WMC and some of the other regulars in those articles. I hope that they will be able to continue to do so. This post has been edited by Cla68:
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