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_ Durova _ OMG Durova has lost her mind!!!!!!!
Posted by: Obesity
I confess I have no idea if Durova still participates in WP, Commons and other Wikimedia projects. I don't really hang around those places anymore.
But I am on Facebook a lot, where Durova is one of my finest friends.
She is playing that pointless Zoo World game MORNING, NOON and NIGHT and assailing her friends with arcane and meaningless status updates.
Today almost every one of my friend updates was from Durova, and EVERY ONE of Durova's updates was about ZOO WORLD:
Now she can attract even more visitors to her zoo!
Lise needs your help to win! Everyone shares speed prizes and gains mastery. Only 20 more miles to go!
Lise's bald eagle, Samantha, just beat Cassia in a race and collected a new speed stone. Some things are best when shared with friends.
LOL, "speed stones". sound liek crystal meth. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Lise's American Alligator was born just 9 hours ago. She is cold, lonely, and will get sick soon without any food. Baby wants to grow up big and strong some day and just needs a little help getting started.
Lise just received a Mom and Baby Gorilla from the Wildlife Care Network.
Lise's Great-Horned Owl was born just 25 hours ago. She is cold, lonely, and will get sick soon without any food. Baby wants to grow up big and strong some day and just needs a little help getting started.
These were all from the past 24 hours.
DUROVA'S GONE ZOO WORLD CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wut does this have to do with a deep critique of the Web 2.0?
ummmm, well maybe some1 could say something abt how playing zoo world may be pointless, but at least it doesnt harm anyone liek Wikipeeeeeeedia.
ok thx.
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
No way this goes into the Annex.
Posted by: Obesity
you mean, like: No way, buster. This is going straight to the Annex.
or do you mean:
No way is THIS thread going to the annex. It's too damned AWESOME for that cesspool.
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
you mean, like: No way, buster. This is going straight to the Annex.
or do you mean:
No way is THIS thread going to the annex. It's too damned AWESOME for that cesspool.
The second one. Sorry for the ambiguity.
Posted by: Ottava
This is why I try not to accept Wikipedian's friend invites. Chances are, I end up blocking their feed.
Posted by: Milton Roe
These were all from the past 24 hours.
DUROVA'S GONE ZOO WORLD CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wut does this have to do with a deep critique of the Web 2.0?
ummmm, well maybe some1 could say something abt how playing zoo world may be pointless, but at least it doesnt harm anyone liek Wikipeeeeeeedia.
ok thx.
Ummm. This is a bio-clock syndrome in women of a certain age, ya know. Known treatments are to adopt a pair of small dogs and half a dozen cats. Or two children from Haiti.
The electronic version appears unholy and unwholesome, but it might be better than nothing.
Posted by: Ottava
Or two children from Haiti.
According to the news, the in thing now is to just steal the kids and not worry about all of that messy adoption crap.
Posted by: BelovedFox
This is why I try not to accept Wikipedian's friend invites. Chances are, I end up blocking their feed.
I've still got Sceptre's friend request mouldering in my notifications bar. I'm surprised he managed to pick the correct person (there's a hell of a lot of people with my name on there.) Other than that, I'm wiki-free.
Posted by: Wiki Witch of the West
Blah. The only thing lamer than playing Zoo World is starting a thread just to talk about somebody playing Zoo World. Four million people play Zoo World.
Start a website called Zoo World Review and wallow in your lameness.
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
Blah. The only thing lamer than playing Zoo World is starting a thread just to talk about somebody playing Zoo World. Four million people play Zoo World.
Start a website called Zoo World Review and wallow in your lameness.
Got bored with content creation?
Posted by: Wiki Witch of the West
Blah. The only thing lamer than playing Zoo World is starting a thread just to talk about somebody playing Zoo World. Four million people play Zoo World.
Start a website called Zoo World Review and wallow in your lameness.
Got bored with content creation?
Two DYKs this week. They're on my page (Wikipedia talk, not Facebook).
Somey, did this website suddenly turn into Facebook Review?
Posted by: NuclearWarfare
Blah. The only thing lamer than playing Zoo World is starting a thread just to talk about somebody playing Zoo World. Four million people play Zoo World.
Start a website called Zoo World Review and wallow in your lameness.
I thought it was Farmville that was all the rage? Or was that 6 months ago?
They are all hidden from my news feed anyway (as they should be for everyone), so I can never keep track.
Posted by: dtobias
Fortunately you can block particular applications, and I've blocked most of the silly games that would otherwise flood my update page.
Posted by: Wiki Witch of the West
Fortunately you can block particular applications, and I've blocked most of the silly games that would otherwise flood my update page.
*snaps fingers* and there I was about to join Farmville and Mafia Wars just to check in on this thread and watch Obesity's head explode.
Seriously, this stuff takes so little time or mental energy. Keep a window open. Click a few buttons to keep the game alive. Approve a canned message.
Now I'm saving a humpback whale. Let's see what sort of sophomoric pun that generates.
Posted by: Zoloft
Fortunately you can block particular applications, and I've blocked most of the silly games that would otherwise flood my update page.
*snaps fingers* and there I was about to join Farmville and Mafia Wars just to check in on this thread and watch Obesity's head explode.
Seriously, this stuff takes so little time or mental energy. Keep a window open. Click a few buttons to keep the game alive. Approve a canned message.
Now I'm saving a humpback whale. Let's see what sort of sophomoric pun that generates.
"Lise just trained her Bald Eagle to do the "Play dead" trick! Now she can attract even more visitors to her zoo!"
Honest to God, I believe the people who write these notifications are not even pretending to hide the double-entendres any more.
Posted by: Cla68
I haven't started a Facebook or MySpace account in spite of the almost daily email invites I receive to do so. Looks like I'm really missing out.
Posted by: EricBarbour
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15601 http://www.facebook.com/people/Lise-Broer/1274310311 http://www.google.com/profiles/nadezhda.durova?hl=en http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile/?userid=14233845 http://museum30.ning.com/profile/LiseBroer?xg_source=activity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stq6MindK94, http://shop.cafepress.com/durova.
Yours is far more intense than any of ours.
Posted by: Wiki Witch of the West
Gee, if I knew it'd cause this much stir over here I wouldn't have stopped playing Facebook games for a year.
For what it's worth, here's an idea to kick around. Know how a portion of Facebook friends aren't real friends? Suppose you ran two facebook accounts and farmed the non-friend friends over to the second account. Then enjoyed all the really spammy features of Facebook on the jerk account.
Join a cause, invite all your friends? Suuuure.
Posted by: The Joy
Posted by: the fieryangel
You know, you can turn those notifications off so you don't have to look at them. That's what I do.
What's the big deal here?
Posted by: Moulton
There are dozens of similar games on Facebook. They all use the same underlying game engine, but differ in the costumery, settings, and story in which the game items are acquired. Yesterday, on April Fool Day, the Mafia Wars "Chop Shop" (where you rebuild stolen cars from parts) was replaced by a lavender Fairy Castle where you nurture young unicorns. It was a one-for-one substitution of the names of the items and the associated artwork, but the underlying game calculus remained exactly the same.
The main advantage of Facebook's MMPORGs over WP is that the games on Facebook are not subject to rampant corruption. The players cannot hijack the dynamics of the underlying game engine to gain an outrageous advantage over rival players.
Posted by: Kwork
These were all from the past 24 hours.
DUROVA'S GONE ZOO WORLD CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wut does this have to do with a deep critique of the Web 2.0?
ummmm, well maybe some1 could say something abt how playing zoo world may be pointless, but at least it doesnt harm anyone liek Wikipeeeeeeedia.
ok thx.
Ummm. This is a bio-clock syndrome in women of a certain age, ya know. Known treatments are to adopt a pair of small dogs and half a dozen cats. Or two children from Haiti.
The electronic version appears unholy and unwholesome, but it might be better than nothing.
It is easy to argue that Wikipedia itself is actually just an online game, with the theme of "write an encyclopedia" set up in a way so that the "editors" can fight out their personal issues with various allies and opponents. I think Catherineyronwode (T-C-L-K-R-D) sums that view of WP rather well on her user page.
If that is correct, there is not surprising that WP users also play other online games.
Posted by: Moulton
The main difference between WP and other online MMPORGs is that on WP you can develop your skills at corrupting the integrity of the game.
Posted by: Kwork
The main difference between WP and other online MMPORGs is that on WP you can develop your skills at corrupting the integrity of the game.
Have any studies published that discuss that aspect of Wikipedia?
Posted by: Moulton
Yes, including both journalistic accounts and academic studies (including some graduate level theses which appear in peer-reviewed journals).
Posted by: Sarcasticidealist
The only Facebook game I play is "Convince my Facebook friends of how clever I am", which I pretty much play morning, noon, and night too. I suspect that a lot of people have blocked that game from their feeds, too.
Posted by: Milton Roe
Now I'm saving a humpback whale. Let's see what sort of sophomoric pun that generates.
I want you to teach your pussy not to barf hairballs on the carpet.
Then, not to drool when you pet it.
Posted by: Kwork
The only Facebook game I play is "Convince my Facebook friends of how clever I am", which I pretty much play morning, noon, and night too. I suspect that a lot of people have blocked that game from their feeds, too.
If you are incapable of saying something intelligent, there is no need to prove it. (Arbcom members, particularly, seem to feel a need to demonstrate that, for Wikipedia, it is good enough to be a halfwit.)
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
I use Facebook as an adjunct to the language learning communities I participate in. The language sites are used to identify people with complimentary language interest (ie I want to learn Spanish and speak English, they want to learn English and speak Spanish). We help each other with prepared exercises and more importantly exchange emails, chats or Skype calls. Facebook serves a useful place to share cultural, political or social interests (mostly pop culture) that then provides the basis for substantial conversations. The "gifting" of token representing food items from respective cultures is common, so I have had virtual goat.
The demographic and characteristics of people who participate in these language communities is very different. Age range not much different, but non-geek, good gender balance, education level good but probably less than WP. More diversity of race and social class. Little or no drama. They present some of the same concerns as WP in terms of child protection. Sometimes a young girl (well maybe a girl) will show up wanting to "meet" men in the biblical and commercial sense. Anonymity is sometimes used, sometimes not. There is a cadre of employee staff to address abuse problems and concerns. The biggest difference seems to be almost everyone is there to learn, not just demonstrate their "knowledge."
I'm impressed with the array of social media (PHP driven tutorials, discussion boards, chat, Skype, Facebook etc) employed to carry out a teaching/learning task. I also like that it is decentralized in that a variety of sites are employed by the same people working together. IMHO it presently represents the best hope for successful online learning communities.
Posted by: Somey
Oh my! 
One thing that concerns me about Facebook, in fact probably the only thing, is that since they opened up their http://developers.facebook.com/connect.php they're fast becoming the authentication method of choice all over the web - and not just for blog/news comments and forums, but collaborative sites too. In effect, this means that website operators are passing off whatever responsibility or duty-of-care they might otherwise have to prevent impersonation, multiple-account abuse, etc., onto Facebook - which we already know to be a massive fail strategy, even if they do a better-than-average job of it. (The point here being that "average" is pretty bad, so "better than average" ain't saying much.)
So the question for me is, at what point is Wikipedia going to start directly incorporating Facebook APIs into its own system? There's already a fairly well-tested http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FBConnect... If Facebook really started taking online identity abuse seriously, I'd probably say this would be a good thing. In fact, even the way it is now, it would probably be better than what Wikipedia does, which is basically the equivalent of turning angry teenagers into self-appointed internet detectives, just to pick off the low-hanging fruit, sock-puppetwise.
Anyhoo, this is all off-topic - this thread is about how the difficult, complex job of professional zoo management can be trivialized into an online social-networking game that takes about 5 minutes a day to "win." In general some of these Facebook games look pretty ridiculous, but I suppose there's relatively little harm in them other than "lost productivity" (which I've always thought was overrated to begin with).
Posted by: Milton Roe
In general some of these Facebook games look pretty ridiculous, but I suppose there's relatively little harm in them other than "lost productivity" (which I've always thought was overrated to begin with).
Yes. Apparently, it takes Lise little mental energy and time to teach her electronic bald eagle to play dead. We have her word for it.
Ah, god. 
Actually, it is indeed slightly less lame to discuss this as a cultural phenomenon, than to actually get into the pit and do it.
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
I want you to teach your pussy not to barf hairballs on the carpet.
Lovely...now Miltie thinks he's Mrs. Slocombe!
Are you free, Mr. Roe?
I'm free!
Posted by: dtobias
We help each other with prepared exorcises
Do you have an exorcist for that?
Posted by: RDH(Ghost In The Machine)
Now I'm saving a humpback whale. Let's see what sort of sophomoric pun that generates.
I want you to teach your pussy not to barf hairballs on the carpet.
Then, not to drool when you pet it.
Better yet-just shave your pussy...sure it'll look funny, but no hairballs.
There are dozens of similar games on Facebook. They all use the same underlying game engine, but differ in the costumery, settings, and story in which the game items are acquired. Yesterday, on April Fool Day, the Mafia Wars "Chop Shop" (where you rebuild stolen cars from parts) was replaced by a lavender Fairy Castle where you nurture young unicorns. It was a one-for-one substitution of the names of the items and the associated artwork, but the underlying game calculus remained exactly the same.
Coming soon to a generic, flash game engine near you:
Super Restroom Attendant Hero!
Posted by: Obesity
There have been several important Zoo World developments of which I'd like everyone to be aware:
1) Durova has now reached LEVEL 22 on Zoo World!!!!!!! 
[we need a smiley with a noisemaker and a party hat, please]
2) Durova has now begun naming inhabitants of her cybermenagerie after prominent Wikipedia Review members.
Here is a catalog of her latest activities:
Lise found a beached Humpback Whale struggling to get back in the water. If Lise gets 10 helping hands in 7 days then everyone who helps gets a Humpback Whale.
Lise found a Blue Jay that fell out of his nest and broke his wing!. He is hurt and needs someone to take care of him so he can fly again!
A rescued Hedgehog escaped while being transported to Lise's zoo! The frisky little Hedgehog!She is frightened and needs someone to find her!
Lise is happy to have a Rainbow Butterfly and is sharing a Complete Basket of Eggs with friends!
Lise's swift, Eric + Obesity, just beat Cristi in a race and collected a new speed stone. Some things are best when shared with friends. [There are like twenty different posts about Durova's swift, named "Eric + Obesity," besting various other animals in imaginary "races". I have omitted these updates, because they are virtually identical. Apparently, E+O is the fastest animal in all of Zoo World.]
Lise's American Alligator was born just 9 hours ago. She is cold, lonely, and will get sick soon without any food. Baby wants to grow up big and strong some day and just needs a little help getting started.
Lise's Easter Bunny Boat is filling up with fast with gifts and they want to celebrate with a special gift egg for friends!
A rescued Ocelot escaped while being transported to Lise's zoo! The frisky little Ocelot!She is frightened and needs someone to find he
Lise found a beached Humpback Whale struggling to get back in the water. If Lise gets 5 more helping hands in 7 days then everyone who helps gets a Humpback Whale.
Now she can attract even more visitors to her zoo! [Should legitimate zoos really be training animals to do "tricks"?.... I mean, isn't that more of circus/Sea World type of thing? The more highly regarded zoos at least make shallow attempts to make the animals appear as they do in their natural habitat. I'm not sure I agree with Durova's approach here.]
Lise found a mystery gift box during a treasure hunt! There could be a valuable rare item in this gift box!
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
There have been several important Zoo World developments of which I'd like everyone to be aware:
The animals are cute, but listen to the soundtrack -- great rendition of a silly song.
Posted by: Kelly Martin
Please don't encourage the troll.
Posted by: Obesity
Please don't encourage the troll.
wut troll r u referring to?
Posted by: TungstenCarbide
this thread is just plain mean and should be moved to the tarpit.
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
Duova exports WP/WR dispute onto Facebook by naming here critters after WRers? Couldn't see that coming. When she gonna teach one of her eagles to ride a Harley?
Posted by: Milton Roe
Now she can attract even more visitors to her zoo! [Should legitimate zoos really be training animals to do "tricks"?.... I mean, isn't that more of circus/Sea World type of thing? The more highly regarded zoos at least make shallow attempts to make the animals appear as they do in their natural habitat. I'm not sure I agree with Durova's approach here.]
No zoo or animal park has animals do "tricks." Rather, they teach them new behaviors, in exchange for food treats. This helps with management of the animals, and enriches their environment.
See what a difference a simple change in terminology makes? N.B. The "drown-your-trainer behavior" is apparently a natural one, and was not taught.
this thread is just plain mean and should be moved to the tarpit.
It is quite snarky and a little mean. I don't know why it's happening to such a sweet person as Durova. Could anybody here enlighten me about this gratuitous behavior?
I mean, so what if they're imaginary electronic animals? Has she not been even nicer and more nurturing toward real human beings online? Well? Look at the tricks she tried to teach Mercury (T-C-L-K-R-D) . Look at the tricks Mercury taught WP. Win-win. And the rest of the lowly editors on WP love her too, especially bangbang !! (T-C-L-K-R-D) My Baby Shot Me Down. Chitty, Chitty, Kiss, Kiss.
Posted by: Obesity
this thread is just plain mean and should be moved to the tarpit.
Durova culd always de-friend me if she does not liek. She secrectly lieks. Even named her swift after me.
Posted by: TungstenCarbide
You're acting like a 12yr old with a crush.
Posted by: Obesity
You're acting like a 12yr old with a crush.
so wut if I liek Lise and tease her. She tried to ban me from Wikipedia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good thing i am popular and haev powerful friends on WP, even though i create nothing but mischief when i bother to edit at all.
anyway, durova is one of my best friend. if she were really mad at me she wuld create a thread posting all of MY facebook status updates.
Posted by: TungstenCarbide
Posted by: Ottava
what a power couple you two'd make!
I'd hate to see what the babies would look like.
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
what a power couple you two'd make!
I'd hate to see what the babies would look like.
I'd hate to see the videotape of them making the babies!
Posted by: Kelly Martin
Posted by: TungstenCarbide
Posted by: Somey
I believe you did, yes. However, for the time being we're going to assume you only want us to do that out of pure spite, for not having had one of Durova's virtual zoo animals named after you.
Posted by: TungstenCarbide
what a power couple you two'd make!