Elbow bondage, Why delete this article? Options

[thekohser]

To be devils' advocate, who cares how many bondage article there are. As a libertarian, consensual activities like pair-figure skating, Canadian curling, and trapeze sex don't really bother me. If your eyes glaze over, don't look.

Especially if the articles don't require any reliable sources! Be on the lookout for my sockpuppet-authored article about "[[Fourth toe to pinkie toe bondage]]".

[Milton Roe]

To be devils' advocate, who cares how many bondage article there are. As a libertarian, consensual activities like pair-figure skating, Canadian curling, and trapeze sex don't really bother me. If your eyes glaze over, don't look.

Especially if the articles don't require any reliable sources! Be on the lookout for my sockpuppet-authored article about "[[Fourth toe to pinkie toe bondage]]".

Sure you didn't just bust one and blame your doc for being a pervert?

Here's a lame candidate: Total enclosure fetishism. Nothing good here for many levels. It's WP:BEANS all the way down.

This post has been edited by Milton Roe: Sat 2nd August 2008, 10:40pm

[Vicky]

If they start deleting "how to" articles written solely from the perspective of personal experience and commercially-linked photos (3 women, no men)

It's a bit difficult writing about bondage other than from the benefit of experience (ideally both tying and tied). OK, the phrasing can be different, but who'd want to read a bondage article written by someone like UncleG who doesn't know what it means? Those are good quality photos and perfectly illustrate their subjects. Also, decent elbow bondage is much more difficult for men because it's rare to find a man whose elbows will get anywhere near touching. Still, next time Greg's in London I'm happy to use him as a model.

Not just any pretty pictures though... pretty pictures with links to the porn site that posted them as an image summary.

Bedroom Bondage is scarcely a porn site; it shows less than you can see in some British newspapers every day. I know Eva too well to imagine that she'd want to remove all the excellent pictures that have kindly been donated by this and similar sites.

It's WJBscribe who nominated all those. Clearly WJBscribe hates Taxwoman, Poetlister, and all others.

True.

Of course the article should be destroyed.

Why? Because bondage is not a valid subject for Wikipedia?

[Vicky]

I guess that the question isn't so much that it is a valid term (which it is, of course), but rather it is a question of whether it is in regular use. I guess that we need an expert on the topic. Perhaps someone from Wipipedia could comment about how notable it is.

The question then is how many articles do you need about different kinds of bondage? Britannica only has 1 article for bondage (S&M) and 1 article for bondage (slavery), and that's it, and I am sure that their article for bondage (slavery is longer). Why does Wikipedia need to have so many articles on types of S&M bondage?

Yes, it's a very common idea in bondage. Wikipedia does not have any space restrictions. If it can have hundreds of articles about second-rate European footballers, it can have a dozen about different bondage techniques.

[Vicky]

As far as WP policy goes, that deletion was correct; the new article was (word for word) a repost of the article that had been discussed here

It isn't easy to get references for bondage that make an article deletion-proof. There are published books, but it's easy enough to say "never heard of the publisher - not reliable". Good, well-crafted articles on sites that meet WP:RS are virtually non-existent. The best site is

http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/dictionary/

However, the article on Elbow bondage there is apparently copied from Wikipedia. THe fact that it will have been peer reviewed by experts before they re-posted would probably be missed by the average WP admin.

Here's a lame candidate: Total enclosure fetishism. Nothing good here for many levels. It's WP:BEANS all the way down.

I wouldn't call that a How-to article at all. However, it isn't very good. Can Greg use one of his socks to post a better one, with photos?


This post has been edited by Taxwoman: Mon 4th August 2008, 9:51am

[thekohser]

I wouldn't call that a How-to article at all. However, it isn't very good. Can Greg use one of his socks to post a better one, with photos?

Sorry, no can do. LaraLove and I are too busy trying to replace the facial image with a same-race photo more suitable for the white pride movement.

[Eva Destruction]

Not just any pretty pictures though... pretty pictures with links to the porn site that posted them as an image summary.

Bedroom Bondage is scarcely a porn site; it shows less than you can see in some British newspapers every day. I know Eva too well to imagine that she'd want to remove all the excellent pictures that have kindly been donated by this and similar sites.

Taxi, you're absolutely right - I was mixing this image up with Aussie Rope Works, the other main source of "semi-professional" BDSM images on Wikipedia, which I would consider a porn site. Consider me suitably punished. So to speak.