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[mbz1]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.

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[Heat]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Because to a great extent banning people is a game of whack-a-mole and the banned template is either a trophy for the banner or his/her way of branding the banee as his/her chattel.

[Emperor]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Because to a great extent banning people is a game of whack-a-mole and the banned template is either a trophy for the banner or his/her way of branding the banee as his/her chattel.

That's a nice way to put it. I agree, it's really all about the banner feeling good about themselves.

[mbz1]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Because to a great extent banning people is a game of whack-a-mole and the banned template is either a trophy for the banner or his/her way of branding the banee as his/her chattel.

Well, yes, but why in the world that template could not be simply added to a current user page,with everything else that the user had there before is left alone. What is wrong with that?

[AGK]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.

My objection in this case was to the use of an invented barnstar gallery. The banned template was not replaced or added above Will Beback's previous userpage.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

[spp]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.

My objection in this case was to the use of an invented barnstar gallery. The banned template was not replaced or added above Will Beback's previous userpage.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

Wait, how can one circumvent a block on one project by posting to another? Tons of users do that every day on other projects.

[mbz1]

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

I assure you that I will use "other Wikimedia websites" as I am pleased. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
Although you still have a choice: You could block me globally as some sickos have already suggested. I will appreciate this action. Cheers.

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[jd turk]

The banned template and blanking of the user page should, in essence, end all on-wiki discussion of and from the banned user. Sure, there's something to the whole "trophy kill" aspect of it for the banner, but if you've screwed up badly enough to be actually banned, nothing should be going on at your talk page anyway. You appeal to Arbcom, or you go away. No more time lost for either party.

Mbz1's latest campaign of insanity has gotten her banned, her page should be blanked and marked as such. Leaving it open for people to come there and either talk about her photos or take shots at her doesn't help anyone. She's in the "crying out for attention" stage of the final flameout right now, the quicker she goes away permanently, the better it will actually be for her.

[lilburne]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

English isn't Mbz1's firsty language and I think that 'sitting' is a spelling mistake.

[mbz1]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

English isn't Mbz1's firsty language and I think that 'sitting' is a spelling mistake.

Thanks for catching it. What should it be?

[mbz1]

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

And now, when you refused to grant my request, I "circumvented my English Wikipedia block" with this post:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3514357

But, why, oh why, AGK? I am banned, am I not? "Banned means banned", is it not? Are you refusing to do it because I deserve the honor less than Will BeBack (T-C-L-K-R-D) does :-) I simply cannot believe that admins get preferential treatment even in adding "banned user templates" to user pages :-) Cheers --[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|talk]]) 19:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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[Emperor]

Wait.

You added a message on his talk page?

What kind of person does that?

[AGK]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Because to a great extent banning people is a game of whack-a-mole and the banned template is either a trophy for the banner or his/her way of branding the banee as his/her chattel.

Well, yes, but why in the world that template could not be simply added to a current user page,with everything else that the user had there before is left alone. What is wrong with that?

Sure, it could be - that strikes me as the most elegant, fair solution.

[radek]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.

My objection in this case was to the use of an invented barnstar gallery. The banned template was not replaced or added above Will Beback's previous userpage.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

I actually hate that practice of putting those templates on user's pages. It is very unsavory. And in some cases (not nec this one) the glee with which people jump to slap it up there is plain ol' disgusting.

Anyway, can someone explain to me what is up with the "For working around the clock to defend fascism and synarchism, I hereby award you the "rabid dog beast-man Barnstar." Keep up the bestial work. " barn-star from Cognition? Was that someone trolling Will?

[mbz1]

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Because to a great extent banning people is a game of whack-a-mole and the banned template is either a trophy for the banner or his/her way of branding the banee as his/her chattel.

Well, yes, but why in the world that template could not be simply added to a current user page,with everything else that the user had there before is left alone. What is wrong with that?

Sure, it could be - that strikes me as the most elegant, fair solution.

It does? Then why did you do this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479093896 ?

I am not sure about barnstar gallery added after he was banned, maybe he does not want these himself, but how about using his old page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=474717749 (only remove "administrator" things, and add the template)?

BTW, AGK, I'd like to ask you please, how you got to this thread so quickly? Were you emailed about it? I am asking because a few months ago I made a comment about another arbitrator here on WR. Then I got a quite innocent email from him. He told me he was emailed about my post, and asked me to email him, if I am to post something about him ever again. Would you like me to email to you too? Oh, wait, I forgot you told me "never email to you again" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

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[AGK]

Wait.

You added a message on his talk page?

What kind of person does that?

Not the whole story. Mbz1 e-mails me and the committee's various mailing lists more frequently than probably any other editor, and all about basically the same issue. My annoyance at seeing yet another venue - my meta talk page, which I never use - being used for her agenda is not as misplaced as it may seem.

[AGK]

I am not sure about barnstar gallery added after he was banned, maybe he does not want these himself, but how about using his old page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=474717749 (only remove "administrator" things, and add the template)?

BTW, AGK, I'd like to ask you please, how you got to this thread so quickly? Were you emailed about it? I am asking because a few months ago I made a comment about another arbitrator here on WR. Then I got a quite innocent email from him. He told me he was emailed about my post, and asked me to email him, if I am to post something about him ever again. Would you like me to email to you too? Oh, wait, I forgot you told me "never email to you again" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

I have already said I have no issue with his userpage.

Good grief, please don't e-mail me too (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

[mbz1]

Wait.

You added a message on his talk page?

What kind of person does that?

Not the whole story. Mbz1 e-mails me and the committee's various mailing lists more frequently than probably any other editor, and all about basically the same issue. My annoyance at seeing yet another venue - my meta talk page, which I never use - being used for her agenda is not as misplaced as it may seem.

Publish all my emails, and all you responses! Publish emails members of govcom exchanged about me. Publish them either here or on wiki. Publish everything.
I have nothing to hide, do you? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) And, if you do not want to publish it, then shut up.

I am not sure about barnstar gallery added after he was banned, maybe he does not want these himself, but how about using his old page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=474717749 (only remove "administrator" things, and add the template)?

BTW, AGK, I'd like to ask you please, how you got to this thread so quickly? Were you emailed about it? I am asking because a few months ago I made a comment about another arbitrator here on WR. Then I got a quite innocent email from him. He told me he was emailed about my post, and asked me to email him, if I am to post something about him ever again. Would you like me to email to you too? Oh, wait, I forgot you told me "never email to you again" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

I have already said I have no issue with his userpage.

Good grief, please don't e-mail me too (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

You did not respond my question, which was "how did you find out about the thread"?

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[Wikifan]

Wait.

You added a message on his talk page?

What kind of person does that?

Not the whole story. Mbz1 e-mails me and the committee's various mailing lists more frequently than probably any other editor, and all about basically the same issue. My annoyance at seeing yet another venue - my meta talk page, which I never use - being used for her agenda is not as misplaced as it may seem.

Publish all my emails, and all you responses! Publish emails members of govcom exchanged about me. Publish them either here or on wiki. Publish everything.
I have nothing to hide, do you? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

I am not sure about barnstar gallery added after he was banned, maybe he does not want these himself, but how about using his old page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=474717749 (only remove "administrator" things, and add the template)?

BTW, AGK, I'd like to ask you please, how you got to this thread so quickly? Were you emailed about it? I am asking because a few months ago I made a comment about another arbitrator here on WR. Then I got a quite innocent email from him. He told me he was emailed about my post, and asked me to email him, if I am to post something about him ever again. Would you like me to email to you too? Oh, wait, I forgot you told me "never email to you again" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

I have already said I have no issue with his userpage.

Good grief, please don't e-mail me too (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

You did not respond my question, which was "how did you find out about the thread"?

most admins involving in the enforcement process browse review. most won't come out unless they're called out but even then it is unlikely. thread already has 200 views and it's less than a day old. probably be 1,000 by friday.

people hate you mbz1.

[Tarc]

people hate you mbz1.

I feel a sad sort of pity, in a Dunning-Kruger kinda way.