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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 16th July 2010, 6:38pm) The disconnect is to be found in the WMF Mission Statement, which establishes the charter for what is advertised to the public (and represented to the IRS) to be going on at Wikiversity (and sister projects under the WMF umbrella). Yeah, I get it, they're hypocrites. What's not to get? You say you get it, but seem continually surprised and appalled nonetheless. I don't get it. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif)
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Fri 16th July 2010, 10:44pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 16th July 2010, 6:38pm) The disconnect is to be found in the WMF Mission Statement, which establishes the charter for what is advertised to the public (and represented to the IRS) to be going on at Wikiversity (and sister projects under the WMF umbrella). Yeah, I get it, they're hypocrites. What's not to get? You say you get it, but seem continually surprised and appalled nonetheless. I don't get it. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif) See, in the role of Moulton, the schmegeggy scientist who is utterly and pathetically inept when it comes to teaching science, I am trying in vain to inject some actual educational content into Wikiversity so that if the IRS comes knocking they can say, "Well we did have this one schlepp who tried to inject some actual educational content, but it's not our fault he was a miserable failure."
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 16th July 2010, 8:31pm) QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Fri 16th July 2010, 10:44pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 16th July 2010, 6:38pm) The disconnect is to be found in the WMF Mission Statement, which establishes the charter for what is advertised to the public (and represented to the IRS) to be going on at Wikiversity (and sister projects under the WMF umbrella). Yeah, I get it, they're hypocrites. What's not to get? You say you get it, but seem continually surprised and appalled nonetheless. I don't get it. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif) See, in the role of Moulton, the schmegeggy scientist who is utterly and pathetically inept when it comes to teaching science, I am trying in vain to inject some actual educational content into Wikiversity so that if the IRS comes knocking they can say, "Well we did have this one schlepp who tried to inject some actual educational content, but it's not our fault he was a miserable failure." OK, in the role of a bee, I'll bite, as bees often do. Why would you want to do that? Why not inject yourself out, and let the chumps fall where they may? Is there another purpose behind your self-aware flubbering, or is it just for the intense minty hell of it?
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Sat 17th July 2010, 12:21am) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 16th July 2010, 8:31pm) QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Fri 16th July 2010, 10:44pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 16th July 2010, 6:38pm) The disconnect is to be found in the WMF Mission Statement, which establishes the charter for what is advertised to the public (and represented to the IRS) to be going on at Wikiversity (and sister projects under the WMF umbrella). Yeah, I get it, they're hypocrites. What's not to get? You say you get it, but seem continually surprised and appalled nonetheless. I don't get it. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif) See, in the role of Moulton, the schmegeggy scientist who is utterly and pathetically inept when it comes to teaching science, I am trying in vain to inject some actual educational content into Wikiversity so that if the IRS comes knocking they can say, "Well we did have this one schlepp who tried to inject some actual educational content, but it's not our fault he was a miserable failure." OK, in the role of a bee, I'll bite, as bees often do. Why would you want to do that? Why not inject yourself out, and let the chumps fall where they may? Is there another purpose behind your self-aware flubbering, or is it just for the intense minty hell of it? I've been study learning theory for about 25 years now. It's not very difficult to build a successful learning community to serve the unmet needs of those who wish to learn. But there is a small percentage of the population whom my colleague, Maggie Martinez, calls Resistant Learners. This is the problematic class of learners whose needs are the most difficult to meet. For reasons that I don't fully understand, WikiCulture is suffused with this type of learner. I don't know if I am making any significant progress in learning how to reach out to the Resistant Learner, but my intuition is that they require a dynamic learning environment rich in high-intensity drama. So that's what I'm doing there -- discovering how to employ high-intensity drama as an educational vehicle.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 16th July 2010, 10:02pm) I've been study learning theory for about 25 years now. It's not very difficult to build a successful learning community to serve the unmet needs of those who wish to learn. But there is a small percentage of the population whom my colleague, Maggie Martinez, calls Resistant Learners. This is the problematic class of learners whose needs are the most difficult to meet. For reasons that I don't fully understand, WikiCulture is suffused with this type of learner. I don't know if I am making any significant progress in learning how to reach out to the Resistant Learner, but my intuition is that they require a dynamic learning environment rich in high-intensity drama. So that's what I'm doing there -- discovering how to employ high-intensity drama as an educational vehicle. I see. My own intuition is that 'pedians are "resistant learners" only insofar as they're not really "learners" at all, least of all in their own minds. They're not there to learn, they're there to tell, and are the sort of people who enjoy imagining they're writing a valuable encyclopedia. So I think it's predictable there are so many of them on wikis, and that they react with hostility to anyone ever trying to tell them anything. So in that way, I'm surprised that you're surprised, is all. I'm intrigued by your dramatic ambition, but my guess is that in this case, the medium is the message, and that "drama" is itself incompatible with real education, but what do I know? Try shouting love and awareness at them, couldn't hurt.
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Sat 17th July 2010, 1:46am) I'm intrigued by your dramatic ambition, but my guess is that in this case, the medium is the message, and that "drama" is itself incompatible with real education, but what do I know? Try shouting love and awareness at them, couldn't hurt. So, we have two non-null hypotheses here. Hâ‚€: (Null Hypothesis) Drama is entirely unrelated to education. Hâ‚: Drama is fundamentally incompatible with real education. Hâ‚‚: Dramaturgy has undiscovered and/or undeveloped educational potential. I believe I can falsify Hâ‚€ and Hâ‚, and, in the fullness of time, demonstrate Hâ‚‚. Can you envision a way to falsify Hâ‚‚ and demonstrate Hâ‚€ at best, and Hâ‚ at worst?
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