Adambro blocks JWSchmidt‎ on Wikiversity Options

[Adambro]

Thought I'd do you guys a favour. "Jimbo's lording over Wikiversity again" is getting pretty long and although it is about Wikiversity, it doesn't directly relate to this. Since I'm sure my latest action will come under the scrutiny of the wikipedia review crowd I thought I'd lend you a hand and start a new thread for your comments criticism. I can't guarantee I'll pay it much attention though, sorry.

[The Joy]

What I've noticed with WV and WikiQuote (WQ) is that the original founding group members usually thought "outside of the box" and appeared to initially eschewed the linear, entrenched, and inflexible thinking that seems to plague the English Wikipedia. WQ was at first a very bizarre place, but it was fun in that the head people there were "eccentric" (almost in a Lewis Carroll sort-of way) and thought of their project in a unique way. Then Cirt and others gained power there to assert the form of linear, entrenched, and inflexible thinking that has made Wikipedia a poisonous place to collaborate and work. Adambro is very much a linear, entrenched, and inflexible person and his way of thinking is prevailing over WV. When people obsess so much about how things must be a certain way, it destroys the entire point of a learning community and educational project.

The founding members of Wikipedia, WV, and WQ all started out with this naive mindset that they were creating a utopia. When people tried to interject criticism of the project, people changed from being enlightened and open-minded people to downright mean and defensive people. I don't know if people like Cirt and Adambro emerge as like antibodies to fight unwarranted thinking or not, but it would explain why these seemingly "eccentric" members would tolerate their presence and give them powers to eliminate threats. Adambro and Cirt do not seem to fit the original cultures that WQ and WV attempted to create and I'm curious as to why they do exist. I see it with TreasuryTag and many administrators on Wikipedia. For example, TreasuryTag likes to enforce rules that only hurts his enemies and not in an objective unbiased way.

It all reminds me of when Abraham Lincoln told General Joseph Hooker:

I have heard, in such way as to believe it, of your recently saying that both the Army and the Government needed a Dictator. Of course it was not for this, but in spite of it, that I have given you the command. Only those generals who gain success can set up dictators. What I now ask of you is military success, and I will risk the dictatorship.

The linear, entrenched, and inflexible people have been given the command. Instead of building bridges, WP, WQ, and WV are building trenches. Haig today, gone tomorrow!

(Did the above make any sense? Did I overdo the military history analogies? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) )

[Subtle Bee]

What I've noticed with WV and WikiQuote (WQ) is that the original founding group members usually thought "outside of the box" and appeared to initially eschewed the linear, entrenched, and inflexible thinking that seems to plague the English Wikipedia. WQ was at first a very bizarre place, but it was fun in that the head people there were "eccentric" (almost in a Lewis Carroll sort-of way) and thought of their project in a unique way. Then Cirt and others gained power there to assert the form of linear, entrenched, and inflexible thinking that has made Wikipedia a poisonous place to collaborate and work. Adambro is very much a linear, entrenched, and inflexible person and his way of thinking is prevailing over WV. When people obsess so much about how things must be a certain way, it destroys the entire point of a learning community and educational project.

The founding members of Wikipedia, WV, and WQ all started out with this naive mindset that they were creating a utopia. When people tried to interject criticism of the project, people changed from being enlightened and open-minded people to downright mean and defensive people. I don't know if people like Cirt and Adambro emerge as like antibodies to fight unwarranted thinking or not, but it would explain why these seemingly "eccentric" members would tolerate their presence and give them powers to eliminate threats. Adambro and Cirt do not seem to fit the original cultures that WQ and WV attempted to create and I'm curious as to why they do exist. I see it with TreasuryTag and many administrators on Wikipedia. For example, TreasuryTag likes to enforce rules that only hurts his enemies and not in an objective unbiased way.

It all reminds me of when Abraham Lincoln told General Joseph Hooker:

I have heard, in such way as to believe it, of your recently saying that both the Army and the Government needed a Dictator. Of course it was not for this, but in spite of it, that I have given you the command. Only those generals who gain success can set up dictators. What I now ask of you is military success, and I will risk the dictatorship.

The linear, entrenched, and inflexible people have been given the command. Instead of building bridges, WP, WQ, and WV are building trenches. Haig today, gone tomorrow!

(Did the above make any sense? Did I overdo the military history analogies? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) )

Military part aside, I think you described the history of the internet since '95, and probably the evolution of many similar endeavours. Dreamers are like fireweed that flourishes in unpopulated frontiers, but gets overlongrun by duller crops. Circle of life and all that.