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Posted by: Jon Awbrey

Forthcoming …

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Posted by: Jon Awbrey

Previously, on Buffer …

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Wed 26th January 2011, 2:20pm) *

Argghhh! frustrated.gif If generals keep wasting men by fighting “the last war”, the counterpart in education is in preparing students to face the world of yesterday. tearinghairout.gif

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 26th January 2011, 3:12pm) *

Like the way Wikipediots use a format for citations that was already being defecated, er, deprecated when I was in high school, for no better reason than gangs of junior high school geeks thought it would be Awesome to Awetomate it.

QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 26th January 2011, 4:19pm) *

Please expound on this, in a new thread. I am always confused and fascinated by the various methods available for citation on Wikipedia. Jon, which is the “wrong” way, and which is the “right” way?

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 26th January 2011, 4:31pm) *

I'm out of time till later tonight, but this thread is okay, since it's more or less appropriate for media studies.

There's a more general point here — I think I even wrote a series of mini-essays on the subject back in Wikipedia Days under the heading of “The Automobile Was Not Invented By Putting Roller Skates On A Horse”.

Posted by: Milton Roe

Λατρεύω το πολύχρωμο λέξεις όπως γράφει...

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 26th January 2011, 7:58pm) *

If I were in the Meta*Discussion Forum, I'd probably begin by asking, “Why was the footnoting style currently all the hyper-rage among Wikipediots already being deprecated by my high school teachers — dare I say it? — way back in the late 1960s?”

Perhaps another time …

But let me try a more concrete approach, and one that may that may have a particular interest to at least one other reader present.

Here is what the main text of the article “Wikipedia Review” currently looks like in the edit window:

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'''Wikipedia Review''' is a [[wiki]] directory that allows people and enterprises to write about themselves. The brand began as a service creating [[Wikipedia]] articles for paying [[corporation]]s, which hibernated when the founder and owner of Wikipedia Review, Gregory Kohs, was banned from Wikipedia.<ref name="chron">{{cite journal | url=http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/1831/wikipedia-blocks-a-pay-for-play-scheme | title=Wikipedia Blocks a Pay-for-Play Scheme | journal=[[The Chronicle of Higher Education]] | date=2007-01-24 | last=Read | first=Brock | accessdate=2008-08-27}}</ref> {{As of | 2010 | 9 | url=http://www.wikipediareview.com/Special:Statistics}}, the Wikipedia Review directory contained over 63,000 pages of content about corporations and individuals. The business is headquartered in [[West Chester, Pennsylvania|West Chester]], [[Pennsylvania]].<ref name="msnbc">{{cite web | url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16793247/ | title=Idea of paid entries roils Wikipedia | authorlink=Brian_Bergstein | last=Bergstein | first=Brian | date=2007-01-24 | accessdate=2008-08-20 | publisher=[[MSNBC]]/[[Associated Press]]}}</ref>

Professor [[Jonathan Zittrain]] of the [[Harvard Law School]]’s [[Berkman Center for Internet & Society]] discussed the case of Wikipedia Review in his book ''The Future of the Internet - And How to Stop It''.<ref name="zittrain">{{cite book | url=http://yupnet.org/zittrain/archives/16#48|title=The Future of the Internet - And How to Stop It | page=140 | year=2008 | publisher=[[Yale University]] Press | authorlink=Jonathan_Zittrain | last=Zittrain | first=Jonathan | isbn=0300124872}}</ref>  Kohs appeared on ''[[Attack of the Show!]]'' on January 25, 2007, and discussed Wikipedia Review.<ref>
{{cite web | url = http://www.g4tv.com/pile_player.aspx?video_key=14996 | title = Attack of the Show: Blog, January 15, 2007 | accessdate = 2007-10-15 | author = dvinson | date=  2007-01-15 | work = Attack of the Show: Blog |publisher = [[G4TV]] | quote = Gregory Kohs, webmaster for wikipediareview.com and Molly Wood, the Executive Editor from C-Net join us tonight at 7PM to discuss!}}</ref>  [[Heise Online]] expressed a suspicion that while Wikipedia Review’s "attempted corporate infiltration" of Wikipedia was discovered, Wikipedia Review was not an isolated case.<ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/24/24930/1.html | title=Edit-War um Friedrich Merz (Edit War on Friedrich Merz) | publisher=[[Heise Online]] | language=German | date=2007-03-31 | accessdate=2008-08-20 | last=Jellen|first=Richard}}</ref>

==History and controversy ==
Kohs and his sister started the Wikipedia Review venture in [[Pennsylvania]] in July 2006, initially as a paid editing service, writing content for inclusion in [[Wikipedia]] and other community-edited sites.<ref name="pr">{{cite web | url=http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_press_release.php?rID=16892 | title=Wikipedia Review press release: Wikipedia - Open For Business|publisher=24-7 Press Release | date=2006-08-08 | accessdate=2008-08-20 | author=Wikipedia Review.com}}</ref><ref name="register">{{cite news | url=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/06/the_cult_of_wikipedia/page6.html | title=Wikipedia ruled by 'Lord of the Universe' | last=Metz | first=Cade | date=2008-02-06 | accessdate=2008-08-20 | newspaper=[[The Register]]}}</ref> The idea came from Wikipedia's "Reward Board", where interested parties would offer cash rewards or gifts to create or improve Wikipedia articles.<ref name="msnbc"/> Wikipedia Review's prices ranged between [[USD|$]]49 and $99 for adding entries that conformed to Wikipedia's standards and policies.<ref name="msnbc"/>  No official Wikipedia policy prohibited paid-for contributions at the time.<ref name="welt">{{cite news | url=http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article147789/Wikipedia-Artikel_die_man_kaufen_kann.html | title=Wikipedia-Artikel, die man kaufen kann (Wikipedia articles that you can buy) | newspaper=[[Die Welt]] | language=German | first=Mathias | last=Peer | date=2006-08-24 | accessdate=2008-08-20}}</ref> Kohs argued that there were tens of thousands of clearly [[Notability in Wikipedia|notable]] companies and nonprofit organizations unrepresented on Wikipedia.<ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/internet/0,39020774,39362654,00.htm | title=Wikipedia, nouvel enjeu de relations publiques (Wikipedia, a new issue of public relations) | publisher=[[ZDNet]] | accessdate=2008-08-27 | date=2006-08-11 | last=Noisette | first=Thierry | language=French}}</ref>

Wikipedia's [[Jimmy Wales]] called the commercialized editing "[[wikt:antithetical|antithetical]]" to Wikipedia’s mission and "absolutely unacceptable"<ref name="msnbc"/> and blocked Kohs' account from editing Wikipedia.<ref name="zittrain"/> However, in August 2006, Wales issued a "mutually beneficial" compromise<ref>{{cite web | url=http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-August/051897.html | title=Wikipedia Review | date=2006-08-09 | accessdate=2008-08-20 | publisher=WikiEn-L | authorlink=Jimmy_Wales | last=Wales | first=Jimmy}}</ref> where he encouraged Wikipedia Review to author and post content on a [[GNU Free Documentation License | GFDL-compliant]] section of Wikipedia Review.com, which could then be [[screen scrape|scraped]] by non-paid, independent editors into Wikipedia and other GFDL sites.<ref name="zittrain"/>

In October 2006 Wales again banned Kohs from Wikipedia, and cautioned any business from using its services, which, according to Kohs, caused Wikipedia Review to go into "[[hibernation]]". In late October 2006, Kohs formed a partnership to promote and market a wiki-based directory at Centiare.com,<ref name="msnbc"/><ref name="sbwire">{{cite web | url=http://www.sbwire.com/news/view/9912 | title=Centiare on the heels of Wikipedia | date=2007-01-05 | accessdate=2008-08-20 | publisher=press release}}</ref> but when the site's owner discontinued the site, negotiated a transfer of its contents to Wikipedia Review.com

==References==
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 26th January 2011, 10:02pm) *

I added spaces to the above code to make it slightly more readable.

It should be obvious to any normal human being that something has gone horribly wrong here.

But the real question is, “Toward what end has this inhuman horror been unleashed?”


Posted by: Jon Awbrey

Modulo the differences in wiki and board formatting, the main text of the Wikipedia article “Wikipedia Review” currently looks like this:

QUOTE

Wikipedia Review is a wiki directory that allows people and enterprises to write about themselves. The brand began as a service creating Wikipedia articles for paying corporations, which hibernated when the founder and owner of Wikipedia Review, Gregory Kohs, was banned from Wikipedia.[1] As of September 2010[ref], the Wikipedia Review directory contained over 63,000 pages of content about corporations and individuals. The business is headquartered in West Chester, Pennsylvania.[2]

Professor Jonathan Zittrain of the Harvard Law School’s Berkman Center for Internet & Society discussed the case of Wikipedia Review in his book The Future of the Internet - And How to Stop It.[3] Kohs appeared on Attack of the Show! on January 25, 2007, and discussed Wikipedia Review.[4] Heise Online expressed a suspicion that while Wikipedia Review’s “attempted corporate infiltration” of Wikipedia was discovered, Wikipedia Review was not an isolated case.[5]

History and controversy

Kohs and his sister started the Wikipedia Review venture in Pennsylvania in July 2006, initially as a paid editing service, writing content for inclusion in Wikipedia and other community-edited sites.[6][7] The idea came from Wikipedia's "Reward Board", where interested parties would offer cash rewards or gifts to create or improve Wikipedia articles.[2] Wikipedia Review's prices ranged between $49 and $99 for adding entries that conformed to Wikipedia's standards and policies.[2] No official Wikipedia policy prohibited paid-for contributions at the time.[8] Kohs argued that there were tens of thousands of clearly notable companies and nonprofit organizations unrepresented on Wikipedia.[9]

Wikipedia's Jimmy Wales called the commercialized editing "antithetical" to Wikipedia’s mission and "absolutely unacceptable"[2] and blocked Kohs' account from editing Wikipedia.[3] However, in August 2006, Wales issued a "mutually beneficial" compromise[10] where he encouraged Wikipedia Review to author and post content on a GFDL-compliant section of Wikipedia Review.com, which could then be scraped by non-paid, independent editors into Wikipedia and other GFDL sites.[3]

In October 2006 Wales again banned Kohs from Wikipedia, and cautioned any business from using its services, which, according to Kohs, caused Wikipedia Review to go into "hibernation". In late October 2006, Kohs formed a partnership to promote and market a wiki-based directory at Centiare.com,[2][11] but when the site's owner discontinued the site, negotiated a transfer of its contents to Wikipedia Review.com

References

1. ^ Read, Brock (2007-01-24). "Wikipedia Blocks a Pay-for-Play Scheme". The Chronicle of Higher Education. http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/1831/wikipedia-blocks-a-pay-for-play-scheme. Retrieved 2008-08-27.
2. ^ a b c d e Bergstein, Brian (2007-01-24). "Idea of paid entries roils Wikipedia". MSNBC/Associated Press. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16793247/. Retrieved 2008-08-20.
3. ^ a b c Zittrain, Jonathan (2008). The Future of the Internet - And How to Stop It. Yale University Press. p. 140. ISBN 0300124872. http://yupnet.org/zittrain/archives/16#48.
4. ^ dvinson (2007-01-15). "Attack of the Show: Blog, January 15, 2007". Attack of the Show: Blog. G4TV. http://www.g4tv.com/pile_player.aspx?video_key=14996. Retrieved 2007-10-15. "Gregory Kohs, webmaster for wikipediareview.com and Molly Wood, the Executive Editor from C-Net join us tonight at 7PM to discuss!"
5. ^ Jellen, Richard (2007-03-31). "Edit-War um Friedrich Merz (Edit War on Friedrich Merz)" (in German). Heise Online. http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/24/24930/1.html. Retrieved 2008-08-20.
6. ^ Wikipedia Review.com (2006-08-08). "Wikipedia Review press release: Wikipedia - Open For Business". 24-7 Press Release. http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_press_release.php?rID=16892. Retrieved 2008-08-20.
7. ^ Metz, Cade (2008-02-06). "Wikipedia ruled by 'Lord of the Universe'". The Register. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/06/the_cult_of_wikipedia/page6.html. Retrieved 2008-08-20.
8. ^ Peer, Mathias (2006-08-24). "Wikipedia-Artikel, die man kaufen kann (Wikipedia articles that you can buy)" (in German). Die Welt. http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article147789/Wikipedia-Artikel_die_man_kaufen_kann.html. Retrieved 2008-08-20.
9. ^ Noisette, Thierry (2006-08-11). "Wikipedia, nouvel enjeu de relations publiques (Wikipedia, a new issue of public relations)" (in French). ZDNet. http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/internet/0,39020774,39362654,00.htm. Retrieved 2008-08-27.
10. ^ Wales, Jimmy (2006-08-09). "Wikipedia Review". WikiEn-L. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-August/051897.html. Retrieved 2008-08-20.
11. ^ "Centiare on the heels of Wikipedia". press release. 2007-01-05. http://www.sbwire.com/news/view/9912. Retrieved 2008-08-20.


Note. I'll format the links in the references when I get time.