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Everyone knows that Abigor has been majorly wheel warring over images, closing "undeletion" requests in less than 2 hours in order to stifle any discussion, and even blocked me for pointing out that while he claimed he was undeleting only "breast feeding" or "art" images, that he was really undeleting hard core pornography.

However, he has gone even further in intimidation:

1. Edit warring on a user talk page when the user has the right to remove content, especially when they leave:[http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ottava_Rima&action=history Mine] and Guido's. Note, vvv and Abigor were overturned as acting completely inappropriately and not within policy, but Abigor felt like removing my comments to make it seem one sided. This is classic abuse and bullying.

2. Trying to desysop Tiptoety for using his power appropriately: as you can see here.

3. Then, when it seemed like he would finally be removed in order to stop his consistent bullying and abuse of every single policy we have and his horrible amount of intimidation, he backs down.

4. Then seeks more revenge against Jimbo to taunt him: 1 and 2.

So, he abused his ops very blatantly on IRC, cussed out people calling them a "fucking idiot", and has been rampaging over multiple pages.

Everyone knows he has been abusive on multiple accounts and deceptive, so why is he not yet banned? If Jimbo wants to prove he really has what is best in mind for the project, it is rather simple what the answer here is: ban Abigor, remove any trace of him, and if anyone dared to abuse their power like that again to make sure they are completely removed.

Abigor has shown that anarchists are able to take over and destroy everything in their path. He is doing a more to harm Wikipedia than anything Greg Kohs has ever managed, and I am sure Kohs is sitting there watching with a huge smile on his face.



By the way, what would the media think if they find out that a single admin has defied the WMF authority, blocked, threatened, cussed out, and gone to great lengths to intimidate anyone who dares to remove pornography that is clearly out of scope and has no reason to be on Commons?

For our reputation alone that guy needs to be shown the door and erased from history.

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Especially since the same courtesy is never given to users with far lesser offenses, and Abigor himself even frequently removed a blocked user's access to their own talk page.
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QUOTE(Guido den Broeder @ Fri 8th July 2011, 7:08pm) *
Especially since the same courtesy is never given to users with far lesser offenses, and Abigor himself even frequently removed a blocked user's access to their own talk page.
I originally had some sympathy for Guido, because of his advocacy for Greg, but I came to see that he was someone pursuing vendettas, and he was that way with Abigor, kicking him when he was down. Sure, Abigor was getting a kind of payback, I'd seen him as an administrative bully. He'd certainly abused his tools with Guido!

However, Abigor is now caught in a Catch-22, a true Kafkaesque moment.

On the one hand, it's claimed that checkuser identification of him as a the vandal, who created an account with a highly offensive username, attacking someone considered adverse to Abigor, was definitive, unmistakable, certain, with evidence in unusual detail being asserted (and which does, if true, represent the strongest level of identification), but, on the other, when Abigor requested the IP information, he was told that privacy policy prohibited that.

Which it doesn't. Permission of the user is a condition allowing release of the information, privacy and checkuser policy is explicit on that.

When I pointed this out, it was then claimed, by Ajraddatz, who had stated that the chance of false identification was "astronomically small" -- I refrained from pointing out the weird language -- that if he wasn't the vandal, revealing the vandal's IP and username to him would be violating the privacy of the vandal.

Catch-22. The user is not allowed to see the evidence against him, because he might not be guilty.

If it weren't for the seriously weird shit coming down about Poetlister, where it's clear that Wikiversity is under attack, distracting me, I think I'd have checked myself into a hospital. This stuff drives me crazy.

Abigor is probably the vandal, but ... even if he is, that he is treated with fairness and respect by *somebody* may help him get through this. And, of course, if he was framed, as he is effectively claiming, the only one who could uncover this crime would be him, if given the evidence, then investigating. Nobody else is going to do it!

It's not likely to help him, directly, but it might help someone, someday. The next victim, perhaps. "Ah! This also happened with Abigor two years ago, after conflict with the same user!"
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Ottava   Abigor's Meltdown  
Ottava   By the way, if the WMF or Foundation doesn't r...  
Guido den Broeder   His real name is Huib Laurens, he is around 25 yea...  
Ottava   At one time he was caught red-handed while he was...  
Moulton   Was he wearing a furry animal costume?  
carbuncle   For our reputation alone that guy needs to be sho...  
Ottava   For our reputation alone that guy needs to be sh...  
SB_Johnny   [quote name='carbuncle' post='235641' date='Sun 9...  
Ottava   [quote name='carbuncle' post='235641' date='Sun ...  
Kelly Martin   Annexing would make it invisible to outsiders. Eff...  
Somey   Yup, annex or delete; the purpose of Wikipedia Rev...  
Ottava   Yup, annex or delete; the purpose of Wikipedia Re...  
Somey   People without accounts linked to annex threads ca...  
Moulton   I personally believe Abigor to be a menace to all ...  
Ottava   People without accounts linked to annex threads c...  
Somey   I'm not really sure what the deal was - the la...  
thekohser   Getting back to this Abigor person, do you have s...  
Ottava   I'm not really sure what the deal was - the l...  
Moulton   He took his anger out on everyone he could find. I...  
SB_Johnny   He wheel warred against Jimbo <...blah, blah, ...  
Ottava   He wheel warred against Jimbo <...blah, blah,...  
SB_Johnny   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='235735' date='Sun 9...  
Ottava   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='235735' date='Sun ...  
Kelly Martin   A broken clock is right twice a day, so, if you co...  
SB_Johnny   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='235738' date='Sun 9...  
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='235738' date='Sun ...  
SB_Johnny   While there are a lot of legitimate reasons to bl...  
GlassBeadGame   While there are a lot of legitimate reasons to b...  
Milton Roe   While there are a lot of legitimate reasons to bl...  
Ottava   I didn't actually say you were "wrong...  
CharlotteWebb   I don't really think a group of over 1 billio...  
Ottava   I don't really think a group of over 1 billi...  
CharlotteWebb   I never said that the three minorities reflected ...  
Ottava   I never said that the three minorities reflected...  
CharlotteWebb   Well, which is racist: Asians are smart or black ...  
Ottava   Well, which is racist: Asians are smart or black...  
Somey   Sigh, it isn't culture baiting. People support...  
Milton Roe   Well... if you ask me, we should all seek to rid ...  
Subtle Bee   [quote name='Somey' post='235798' date='Sun 9th M...  
radek   [quote name='Somey' post='235798' date='Sun 9th ...  
Milton Roe   Stereotypes are a kind of a weighted mix of crude...  
Ottava   Both "stereotype" and "prejudice...  
Ottava   Anyway, getting back to User:Abigor, I've now...  
NuclearWarfare   [quote name='Somey' post='235798' date='Mon 10th ...  
Ottava   Wait, are you stating that I actually do somethin...  
Moulton   Your actions on Wikiversity and the problems they ...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   And there's that in and out the ears trick aga...  
Ottava   a) stay 'on topic', and b) stop making ...  
Ottava   Yup, annex or delete; the purpose of Wikipedia Re...  
John Limey   the purpose of Wikipedia Review is absolutely not...  
Rick   Regarding Tiptoety aka Tyler Van Wormer: Oh please...  
Ottava   When Abigor goes after petty revenge and fails , h...  
ulsterman   When Abigor goes after petty revenge and fails , ...  
Ottava   [quote name='Ottava' post='235893' date='Mon 10th...  
pietkuip   http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:...de-ad...  
Abd   [url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Adm...  
pietkuip   This is extreme: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Us...  
Killiondude   Obviously, whatever policies that did exist on co...  
pietkuip   it was then claimed, by Ajraddatz, who had stated ...  
Abd   it was then claimed, by Ajraddatz, who had stated ...  
Guido den Broeder   I have already explained to Abd at Meta why the IP...  
Abd   I have already explained to Abd at Meta why the IP...  
pietkuip   Abigor was caught red-handed as described? [...] ...  
Abd   There is solid proof that he had problems with sa...  
Guido den Broeder   I'm not going to try and explain it again, Abd...  
Abd   I'm not going to try and explain it again, Abd...  


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