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On January 1, brimming with hopes for the new ArbCom, I filed an appeal at RfAr requesting an end to the sanctions I've been under since 2005. Those sanctions include a "restraining order" barring me from interacting with Phil Sandifer, because I had the nerve to criticize some of his admin actions back in mid-2005. This restraining order was imposed after a previous, voluntary agreement earlier in 2005 was torpedoed by Phil's insistence on continuing to comment about me even after I had agreed to stop commenting about him.

Phil replied to the appeal by attempting to associate me with his police incident, based on my WR participation (lest anyone forget, he is banned from WR for trolling); he also claimed that, through my participation in the relevant WR thread, I had some relationship to the ED article created about him--and therefore I am somehow responsible in some indirect way for harming his job prospects and his reputation with his students.

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Two and a half years ago, on Wikipedia Review, there was a thread that led to somebody - I do not know who - calling the police near where I live with a complaint that I might be murdering homeless people. This resulted in my being subject to harassment and invasion of privacy by the police. In the course of the thread, it was speculated that it would be possible to either drive me out of my PhD program or off of Wikipedia.

Everyking was an active participant in this thread, regaling it with speculation on my mental state.

These efforts - which have continued past this thread - have genuinely painful consequences for me, including the first Google hit on my name - found whenever a prospective employer or one of my students Googles me - is a libelous ED page stemming largely from the results of the thread Everyking was an active participant in.

This, combined with the fact that Everyking's prohibition against commenting on me stemmed from the fact that he was aggressively wikistalking me. And that since that prohibition was put in place, he has constantly attempted to get out of it or have it weakened.

I request that the arbcom does not lift this prohibition. I do not care about the others, however, I request that, given the extreme toxicity of his past actions with regards to me, this basic level of protection for me be extended. I would further ask that the arbcom render this matter closed and to be reconsidered only by Jimbo so that I do not have to, every few months, worry about whether this much-needed protection is going to be brought to an end.


Apparently the ArbCom was moved by those accusations, because it decided, by a vote of 9-0, to keep the restraining order in place indefinitely. The ArbCom was apparently not moved by my repeated requests to be allowed some dignity and restored to the status of an ordinary editor in good standing. I presented three alternative ideas for resolution which were completely ignored by the ArbCom: "1) a mutual restriction on both Phil and myself; 2) the removal of the restriction on myself; 3) a private arrangement under which both of us would avoid interaction except with the prior agreement of the arbitrators." Nor was the ArbCom moved by the arguments of several other editors in favor of lifting the restriction, although perhaps it found merit it the argument offered by Tony Sidaway:

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The sanctions serve as a deterrent. Lest those who would go to external sites and try to subvert Wikipedia should prevail.


So the lesson here, I suppose, is that if you had the misfortune to think it was all right to criticize certain admin actions in 2005, you will keep paying for it for years, perhaps for the rest of your life, and you will always be treated as a fifth-class editor, somewhere below anon IPs and above banned trolls and vandals. What's most incredible is that there is no chance the original case against me would ever even be accepted by the current ArbCom--no one would be subjected to arbitration over such a preposterous "offense" today--yet the sanctions associated with that case are upheld here in 2009.

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Cedric   *sigh* EK, when will ever you ever learn? ...  
everyking   *sigh* EK, when will ever you ever learn? ...  
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dtobias   As for the infusion of new arbs, that was just so...  
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SirFozzie   I said it there, I'll say it here. EK. Let it ...  
everyking   I said it there, I'll say it here. EK. Let it...  
Random832   SirFozzie is making insinuations about EK's mo...  
SirFozzie   Random: I just think it needs to be let go. EK (an...  
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everyking   You're not being condemmed (as much as you...  
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Peter Damian   [...] I commented, along with a bunch of other pe...  
Cla68   Everyking, you really do need to forget about this...  
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Random832   Well, there are several arbitrators here at WR... ...  
Milton Roe   Well, there are several arbitrators here at WR......  
Somey   One is the squirreliest member that we ever knew.....  
One   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='150695' date='Sun ...  
Lar   That said, I noticed that no one requested the sa...  
EricBarbour   (I found this posting http://www.brighthub.com/co...  
Cedric   That deletion discussion and the subsequent bad P...  
Lar   So now another net savvy segment of the general ...  
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Milton Roe   That deletion discussion and the subsequent bad P...  
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everyking   Everyking, you really do need to forget about thi...  
Peter Damian   On the face of it, these accusations look ter...  
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everyking   Right now, it appears that Phil is involved in s...  
Somey   Certainly not until after February 22! Remembe...  
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everyking   I suppose I will have to post a request for clarif...  
everyking   Posted my request for clarification.  
Somey   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reques...  
everyking   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reque...  
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everyking   Coren appears to favor upholding the de facto inte...  
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Milton Roe   ...It's a curious thing, because Coren actual...  
everyking   Spotting an opportunity to put this thing to the t...  
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everyking   Yes, those sorts of restrictions are absurd when...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='152076' date='Wed 21st ...  
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SirFozzie   ...or the much stronger possibility that they figu...  
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everyking   ...or the much stronger possibility that they fig...  
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Kelly Martin   "ArbCom-sanctioned editor" is a very, ve...  
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everyking   No one "has" to pass RfA again. But, i...  
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everyking   Oh, you have an opinion, too, Thatcher! Well...  
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everyking   Oh, you have an opinion, too, Thatcher! Well...  
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