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Posted by: Tarc

Perusing Wikipedia:LTA (T-H-L-K-D) today, I never realized our very own VoC, aka JoeHazelton, has an entry;

QUOTE
Has been stalking User:Goethean and other users since 2006 when he was involved in a conflict over the articles Peter Roskam and Tammy Duckworth. Recently, he has been nominating for deletion articles that User:Goethean created. He generally edits, from a pro-Republican viewpoint, articles relating to far west suburban Chicago politicians. He has a poor command of the English language, and speaks Polish. If his efforts are undermined, he will appear to explode with child-like, semi-coherent rage, often riddled with obscenities and with references to homosexuality, Marxism, the Chicago Outfit, Barack Obama, etc.


I wish I could take credit for writing that, that is hilarious. Not sure about the Polish angle, though.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

The offended party wrote most of that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&diff=322747757&oldid=322727197

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ALong-term_abuse&diff=324079372&oldid=324004246

I also see that unlike Delicious carbuncle, Goethean is able to publish Emails without being sanctioned by ArbCom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&diff=323485865&oldid=323267185

Publishing that Email resulted in a month-long edit war, and NuclearWarfare had to step in and protect the article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&offset=20091201000000&limit=125&action=history

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&diff=327059349&oldid=327054197 (Question: Did Goethean create that blog? Goethean can publish whatever he or she wants outside of Wikipedia but I can't?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&page=Wikipedia%3ALong-term_abuse

If anything, the Email that Goethean published caused more disruption than the Email Delicious carbuncle published, and unlike the Email that Delicious carbuncle published, the Email that Goethean published http://joehazelton240.blogspot.com/2009/11/from-joe-hazelton-fri-nov-10-195410.html.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Thu 19th July 2012, 11:10am) *

The offended party wrote most of that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&diff=322747757&oldid=322727197

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ALong-term_abuse&diff=324079372&oldid=324004246

I also see that unlike Delicious carbuncle, Goethean is able to publish Emails without being sanctioned by ArbCom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&diff=323485865&oldid=323267185

Publishing that Email resulted in a month-long edit war, and NuclearWarfare had to step in and protect the article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&offset=20091201000000&limit=125&action=history

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&diff=327059349&oldid=327054197 (Question: Did Goethean create that blog? Goethean can publish whatever he or she wants outside of Wikipedia but I can't?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&page=Wikipedia%3ALong-term_abuse

If anything, the Email that Goethean published caused more disruption than the Email Delicious carbuncle published, and unlike the Email that Delicious carbuncle published, the Email that Goethean published http://joehazelton240.blogspot.com/2009/11/from-joe-hazelton-fri-nov-10-195410.html.



Make no mistake, I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for the Guru of Dupage county and this person, virtual ashram on Wikipedia. Goethean and those who hangs with this intellectual thugs, bully's
and enable goethean's hate filled posts is worst. Plus the staking of me, on the Wiki by Goethean is morally bankrupt. This little man is weak, pathetic and cowardly - intellectual, spiritual, and morally corrupt.... What is sad is no one calls clown to task.

As tarc, he's just a little dorkboy.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NuclearWarfare&diff=327111449:

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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse&action=historysubmit&diff=327059349&oldid=327054197 This] is really great. Way to stand up for the rights of a blocked user with over 270 sockpuppets associated with him, who has sent me and other users threatening, harassing emails for years. Way to go! — [[User:Goethean|goethean]] [[User_talk:Goethean|ॐ]] 14:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


Goethean's response to NuclearWarfare's actions is pretty funny.

Posted by: Tarc

Ahh yes, joehazelton240.blogspot.com. I posted that here once, and Joe went running to Somey, who deleted it.

Edit: Amusing, I still have that PM in my inbox. hey joe;

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finily, I would strongly suggest you take down that site, if it's yours... I will take action to take it down as it violates copy right.

NO GO WAY AND STOP BOTHERING ME.


How is that "action" coming along?

smile.gif


Posted by: victim of censorship

I want this link remove and Tarc banned...

big coward bully boy want to fight
I will start taking pictures and publish the address
of Goadhead so as his real friends on Wikipedia
can find him.





Is this what you want me to do sommy??

Posted by: dtobias

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 20th July 2012, 7:33pm) *

I want this link remove and Tarc banned...


The "Victim Of Censorship" calls for somebody to be censored... go cry to your mommy!

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 20th July 2012, 10:16pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 20th July 2012, 7:33pm) *

I want this link remove and Tarc banned...


The "Victim Of Censorship" calls for somebody to be censored... go cry to your mommy!


LOOK THUG.. I won't go crying to mommy as I go crying to "states attorney".

You want me to start outing Goethean, then I will...

BTY Goethean is IN MY WORLD... and some of my friends in Bloomingdale township
will start taking an "interest" in goathead.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 20th July 2012, 7:33pm) *

I want this link remove and Tarc banned...


What link? This link?

http://joehazelton240.blogspot.com

Oops.

Posted by: KStreetSlave

popcorn.gif

Posted by: Jay

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sat 21st July 2012, 4:26am) *

LOOK THUG.. I won't go crying to mommy as I go crying to "states attorney".

Maybe I'm missing something, but what good will that do? The site owner lives in Britain, beyond the American courts. Do you think there would be a request for an extradition?

Posted by: The Joy

Sigh... unhappy.gif

VoC, you'll have to contact Selina to get the posts removed. Somey no longer has any power here. Selina is the only administrator left. Selina, however, might be busy and may not respond.

With the forum's shortage of mods/admins, you could ask for such privileges from Selina. I'm sure she would appreciate the help.

Posted by: The Joy

QUOTE(Jay @ Mon 23rd July 2012, 3:13pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sat 21st July 2012, 4:26am) *

LOOK THUG.. I won't go crying to mommy as I go crying to "states attorney".

Maybe I'm missing something, but what good will that do? The site owner lives in Britain, beyond the American courts. Do you think there would be a request for an extradition?



I thought Selina lived in Australia? unsure.gif

To catch everyone up to speed, Goethean lives in Chicago near VoC. They both have an intense... personal rivalry... with each other. Goethean and Wikipedia administrator Gamaliel are close friends dedicated to liberal Democratic causes in Chicago, while VoC is a conservative Republican Chicagoan. The personal fight between Goethean, Voc, and Gamaliel has spilled over on to Wikipedia.

Posted by: -DS-

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 19th July 2012, 3:22pm) *
Not sure about the Polish angle, though.

QUOTE
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Joehazelton&oldid=74665606

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(The Joy @ Mon 23rd July 2012, 4:33pm) *

QUOTE(Jay @ Mon 23rd July 2012, 3:13pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sat 21st July 2012, 4:26am) *

LOOK THUG.. I won't go crying to mommy as I go crying to "states attorney".

Maybe I'm missing something, but what good will that do? The site owner lives in Britain, beyond the American courts. Do you think there would be a request for an extradition?



I thought Selina lived in Australia? unsure.gif

To catch everyone up to speed, Goethean lives in Chicago near VoC. They both have an intense... personal rivalry... with each other. Goethean and Wikipedia administrator Gamaliel are close friends dedicated to liberal Democratic causes in Chicago, while VoC is a conservative Republican Chicagoan. The personal fight between Goethean, Voc, and Gamaliel has spilled over on to Wikipedia.


Hm, has Joe (VoC) ever had anything to do with them in real-life? He sounds far too cowardly for that, this has seemed more like a wiki-fight that Joe has attempted to take to a personal level, with tough talk of stalking, knowing where Goethan lives, etc... along with the "I am close friends with a powerful politician" bravado.

Btw, Joe; how do you get a one-armed Polack out of a tree?

wave.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

fuck you little man tarc....

Posted by: The Joy

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 27th July 2012, 1:02am) *

fuck you little man tarc....


I used the "Report to Mod" function, but who knows if Selina will come to our aid? unsure.gif sad.gif

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(The Joy @ Sun 29th July 2012, 11:38pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 27th July 2012, 1:02am) *

fuck you little man tarc....


I used the "Report to Mod" function, but who knows if Selina will come to our aid? unsure.gif sad.gif


Selina appeared.

Posted by: Retrospect

QUOTE(The Joy @ Mon 30th July 2012, 4:38am) *

I used the "Report to Mod" function, but who knows if Selina will come to our aid? unsure.gif sad.gif

QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 2nd August 2012, 10:15pm) *

Selina appeared.

Yep, she appeared and those bloody threads have gone, but guess what? She's let ruddy "I'm the world's greatest authority on anything and the rest of you are just mere mortals and fucking perverts to boot" Ottava post! mad.gif

So when will she make The Joy a mod again?

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(Retrospect @ Fri 3rd August 2012, 11:30am) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Mon 30th July 2012, 4:38am) *

I used the "Report to Mod" function, but who knows if Selina will come to our aid? unsure.gif sad.gif

QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 2nd August 2012, 10:15pm) *

Selina appeared.

Yep, she appeared and those bloody threads have gone, but guess what? She's let ruddy "I'm the world's greatest authority on anything and the rest of you are just mere mortals and fucking perverts to boot" Ottava post! mad.gif

So when will she make The Joy a mod again?


Why is it that you are using an obvious sock account/lurker account? Perhaps your other account was banned, and for an obvious reason. It would explain the bitterness.

Posted by: Retrospect

QUOTE(Ottava @ Sat 4th August 2012, 4:47pm) *

Why is it that you are using an obvious sock account/lurker account? Perhaps your other account was banned, and for an obvious reason. It would explain the bitterness.

Hey, you're as good at sockhunting as you are at everything else! laugh.gif Who'd have thought it?

No bitterness, just annoyance that there's a wanker wandering around the site.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(Retrospect @ Sun 5th August 2012, 1:55pm) *
just annoyance that there's a wanker wandering around the site.


Perhaps you should wander elsewhere, then?

Posted by: Retrospect

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 6th August 2012, 1:39pm) *

QUOTE(Retrospect @ Sun 5th August 2012, 1:55pm) *
just annoyance that there's a wanker wandering around the site.


Perhaps you should wander elsewhere, then?

Hey, are you always this original? laugh.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Retrospect @ Mon 6th August 2012, 12:18pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 6th August 2012, 1:39pm) *

QUOTE(Retrospect @ Sun 5th August 2012, 1:55pm) *
just annoyance that there's a wanker wandering around the site.


Perhaps you should wander elsewhere, then?

Hey, are you always this original? laugh.gif

Mr Tarc Meridian is just a bitter little man, drunk with the power that Wiki juice gives him. If I was the operators of this board, I would ban him, because he contributes nothing but to cyber-stalk me.


Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 5:24pm) *
Mr Tarc Meridian is just a bitter little man, drunk with the power that Wiki juice gives him. If I was the operators of this board, I would ban him, because he contributes nothing but to cyber-stalk me.


http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/tarc.html

I see that you received some aid from Mr. Brandt.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 6:10pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 5:24pm) *
Mr Tarc Meridian is just a bitter little man, drunk with the power that Wiki juice gives him. If I was the operators of this board, I would ban him, because he contributes nothing but to cyber-stalk me.


http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/tarc.html

I see that you received some aid from Mr. Brandt.

Thank you my friend....

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 7:53pm) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 6:10pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 5:24pm) *
Mr Tarc Meridian is just a bitter little man, drunk with the power that Wiki juice gives him. If I was the operators of this board, I would ban him, because he contributes nothing but to cyber-stalk me.


http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/tarc.html

I see that you received some aid from Mr. Brandt.

Thank you my friend....


Too funny, esp to see Suarez be Brandt's errand boy across the internets.

Got some bad news for you though, JoJo; as I posted over on the "Other Forum", it is fake. Danny does not want to find out what'll happen if the misidentified person there ever sees that page, though.



Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 8:14pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 7:53pm) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 6:10pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 3rd September 2012, 5:24pm) *
Mr Tarc Meridian is just a bitter little man, drunk with the power that Wiki juice gives him. If I was the operators of this board, I would ban him, because he contributes nothing but to cyber-stalk me.


http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/tarc.html

I see that you received some aid from Mr. Brandt.

Thank you my friend....


Too funny, esp to see Suarez be Brandt's errand boy across the internets.

Got some bad news for you though, JoJo; as I posted over on the "Other Forum", it is fake. Danny does not want to find out what'll happen if the misidentified person there ever sees that page, though.


Me tool... I got bad news for you... You are registered with my local police dept as a Cyber-bully.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 4th September 2012, 1:57am) *
Me tool... I got bad news for you... You are registered with my local police dept as a Cyber-bully.


Again, if you're using the name on that page, you're barking up the wrong tree. Second, if you're going to lie at least do it intelligently; there's no such thing as a "cyber-bully registry", at your or anyone else's police station.

Even if someday in the future such a thing comes about, I'm pretty sure there'd be this little thing called "due process" that'd be followed first. What kind of sucker would believe that anyone can just walk into a police station, hand them a bunch of computer printouts and think that puts someone on a magic list?

Think, JoJo. You're not terribly creative or clever when you try to venture beyond your "jumbo juice" shtick.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 4th September 2012, 12:58pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 4th September 2012, 1:57am) *
Me tool... I got bad news for you... You are registered with my local police dept as a Cyber-bully.


Again, if you're using the name on that page, you're barking up the wrong tree. Second, if you're going to lie at least do it intelligently; there's no such thing as a "cyber-bully registry", at your or anyone else's police station.

Even if someday in the future such a thing comes about, I'm pretty sure there'd be this little thing called "due process" that'd be followed first. What kind of sucker would believe that anyone can just walk into a police station, hand them a bunch of computer printouts and think that puts someone on a magic list?

Think, JoJo. You're not terribly creative or clever when you try to venture beyond your "jumbo juice" shtick.

You think so...inhttp://www.aardvarc.org/stalking/states/ilst.shtml You should stay away from me now...

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 6th September 2012, 2:56am) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 4th September 2012, 12:58pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 4th September 2012, 1:57am) *
Me tool... I got bad news for you... You are registered with my local police dept as a Cyber-bully.


Again, if you're using the name on that page, you're barking up the wrong tree. Second, if you're going to lie at least do it intelligently; there's no such thing as a "cyber-bully registry", at your or anyone else's police station.

Even if someday in the future such a thing comes about, I'm pretty sure there'd be this little thing called "due process" that'd be followed first. What kind of sucker would believe that anyone can just walk into a police station, hand them a bunch of computer printouts and think that puts someone on a magic list?

Think, JoJo. You're not terribly creative or clever when you try to venture beyond your "jumbo juice" shtick.

You think so...inhttp://www.aardvarc.org/stalking/states/ilst.shtml You should stay away from me now...


So:

QUOTE
Cyberstalking

720 ILCS 5/12-7.5. Cyberstalking. 2001.

(a) A person commits cyberstalking when he or she, knowingly and without lawful justification, on at least 2 separate occasions, harasses another person through the use of electronic communication and:

(1) at any time transmits a threat of immediate or future bodily harm, sexual assault, confinement, or restraint and the threat is directed towards that person or a family member of that person, or

(2) places that person or a family member of that person in reasonable apprehension of immediate or future bodily harm, sexual assault, confinement, or restraint.

(b) As used in this Section:

"Harass" means to engage in a knowing and willful course of conduct directed at a specific person that alarms, torments, or terrorizes that person.

"Electronic communication" means any transfer of signs, signals, writings, sounds, data, or intelligence of any nature transmitted in whole or in part by a wire, radio, electronmagnetic, photoelectric, or photo-optical system. "Electronic communication" includes transmissions by a computer through the Internet to another computer.

© Sentence. Cyberstalking is a Class 4 felony. A second or subsequent conviction for cyberstalking is a Class 3 felony.


My intent has never been to "alarms, torments, or terrorize". This is what I told Brandt last night; we're adults who simply do not like each other, engaged in an argument. I make no threats of bodily harm (as I believe you have done to me and to Gothean), no threats to visit your place of business or home. I have never engaged with you beyond the confines of the Wikipedia Review and the Wikipedia. We're both on an internet forum, not following each other anywhere.

You have no valid claim to make of "harassment", and denigrate those who actually do.

Seriously, JoJo...man up.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 6th September 2012, 9:35am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 6th September 2012, 2:56am) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 4th September 2012, 12:58pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 4th September 2012, 1:57am) *
Me tool... I got bad news for you... You are registered with my local police dept as a Cyber-bully.


Again, if you're using the name on that page, you're barking up the wrong tree. Second, if you're going to lie at least do it intelligently; there's no such thing as a "cyber-bully registry", at your or anyone else's police station.

Even if someday in the future such a thing comes about, I'm pretty sure there'd be this little thing called "due process" that'd be followed first. What kind of sucker would believe that anyone can just walk into a police station, hand them a bunch of computer printouts and think that puts someone on a magic list?

Think, JoJo. You're not terribly creative or clever when you try to venture beyond your "jumbo juice" shtick.

You think so...inhttp://www.aardvarc.org/stalking/states/ilst.shtml You should stay away from me now...


So:

QUOTE
Cyberstalking

720 ILCS 5/12-7.5. Cyberstalking. 2001.

(a) A person commits cyberstalking when he or she, knowingly and without lawful justification, on at least 2 separate occasions, harasses another person through the use of electronic communication and:

(1) at any time transmits a threat of immediate or future bodily harm, sexual assault, confinement, or restraint and the threat is directed towards that person or a family member of that person, or

(2) places that person or a family member of that person in reasonable apprehension of immediate or future bodily harm, sexual assault, confinement, or restraint.

(b) As used in this Section:

"Harass" means to engage in a knowing and willful course of conduct directed at a specific person that alarms, torments, or terrorizes that person.

"Electronic communication" means any transfer of signs, signals, writings, sounds, data, or intelligence of any nature transmitted in whole or in part by a wire, radio, electronmagnetic, photoelectric, or photo-optical system. "Electronic communication" includes transmissions by a computer through the Internet to another computer.

© Sentence. Cyberstalking is a Class 4 felony. A second or subsequent conviction for cyberstalking is a Class 3 felony.


My intent has never been to "alarms, torments, or terrorize". This is what I told Brandt last night; we're adults who simply do not like each other, engaged in an argument. I make no threats of bodily harm (as I believe you have done to me and to Gothean), no threats to visit your place of business or home. I have never engaged with you beyond the confines of the Wikipedia Review and the Wikipedia. We're both on an internet forum, not following each other anywhere.

You have no valid claim to make of "harassment", and denigrate those who actually do.

Seriously, JoJo...man up.

More for the evidence file....

Posted by: Tarc

/facepalm

Actually, I missed my palm and hit the desk.

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 6th September 2012, 10:22pm) *

/facepalm

Actually, I missed my palm and hit the desk.



The brain damage would explain why this thread is still being posted in. tongue.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 6th September 2012, 10:47pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 6th September 2012, 10:22pm) *

/facepalm

Actually, I missed my palm and hit the desk.



The brain damage would explain why this thread is still being posted in. tongue.gif


I seen this once in a bar room bathroom...

Those who write on bathroom walls
Roll their shit in to little balls.

Those who read these words of wit.
Eat those little balls of shit....


So to those like TArc..go eat shit and die.


Posted by: Viridae

I had forgotten how funny VoC is.

Posted by: Retrospect

QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 19th December 2012, 11:56pm) *

I had forgotten how funny VoC is.

Yes, this site is bags of fun.