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Get a load of this editor. Yes, it's British Isles Bardcom. This guy has had it in for the British Isles for a while now, but has been losing arguments about getting rid of the article. So what's he doing about it? He's delinking it! Yes, this anti-British Leprechaun from Dublin is trawling the entire encyclopedia and removing every reference he finds to the British Isles. He's been at it for months now and so far has removed several hundred links to the main article. There's no stopping him. Every reason under the sun is given for getting rid of the dreaded term. Some of them are quite laughable. Sometimes he claims OR, often there's no reference, so out it goes. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)

Funny thing is, it seems that Wikipedia is supporting him in this anti-British POV. A few have tried to stop him, but none have so far succeeded. Old Bardy has the world's longest watchlist - he watches EVERY article he's ever had the pleasure of removing British Isles from, and if anyone is foolish enough to re-instate it he calls them a vandal and threatens to block them. Not that he's an admin you understand. Not yet, anyway, but he seems lke suitable material. Oh yes, and there's the ad hominem (or ad homineN as he likes to call it) attack, that everyone whose had any dealings with him has been accused of.

Right now he's facing an RfA and he's also had an RfC, but he breezed through that and looks like doing the same with the RfA. He's so far managed to deflect all criticism and continues on his quest to rid the world of the British Isles. Reckon it'll be September time when the main article doesn't link to anything anymore, then it can go as well. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)

But there's good sport to be had here. At his most prodigious the old bugger gets rid of one BI link a minute and it's hard to keep up the reverts, but why not give it a go. Next time you spot him on a campaign revert his changes as fast as he's making them. You end up with dozens of simultaneous edit wars; it's bloody good fun I can tell you. But then you get banned, like I did. So do it as an IP. That really gets him going.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bardcom
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I do like Connolley's edit summaries. Here's his latest at River Thames Frost fairs: and I quote "rv the one-man waste of time again" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

He better watch out otherwise Bardy'll be blocking him. Oh but I forgot, it doesn't work like that at Wikipedia. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)
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QUOTE(TheKartingWikipedian @ Tue 15th July 2008, 9:16pm) *

I do like Connolley's edit summaries. Here's his latest at River Thames Frost fairs: and I quote "rv the one-man waste of time again" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

He better watch out otherwise Bardy'll be blocking him. Oh but I forgot, it doesn't work like that at Wikipedia. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)

Dya think I should get more popcorn???

Im not sure Bardy realises how deeply nobody cares. I nearly feel sorry for him. He keeps his cool, hes tenacious as hell, but admins sure know how to stick together. Theyre just waiting for one breach of civility and theyll block him for a week.

Yup - more popcorn needed. I feel it coming like a bad storm.
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QUOTE(ComeGetMe @ Tue 15th July 2008, 9:24pm) *

QUOTE(TheKartingWikipedian @ Tue 15th July 2008, 9:16pm) *

I do like Connolley's edit summaries. Here's his latest at River Thames Frost fairs: and I quote "rv the one-man waste of time again" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

He better watch out otherwise Bardy'll be blocking him. Oh but I forgot, it doesn't work like that at Wikipedia. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)

Dya think I should get more popcorn???

Im not sure Bardy realises how deeply nobody cares. I nearly feel sorry for him. He keeps his cool, hes tenacious as hell, but admins sure know how to stick together. Theyre just waiting for one breach of civility and theyll block him for a week.

Yup - more popcorn needed. I feel it coming like a bad storm.


This isn't my job these days, so I haven't looked into the history here -- but if the question is simply whether and when the term "British Isles" should be used -- has anyone suggested just running a content RfC, and everyone agreeing to abide by the result?
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Oooh! Bardy just posted this on WMCs Talk page.

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William, this comment on ATren's Talk page is a clear breach of civility. The bolding is mine to highlight the problem sentences.

Somewhat patronising, but to answer your essential point: Bardcom is engaged in a one-man campaign to remove the words British Isles from wiki. He is editing in bad faith, and a glance at his edits will show you this. Pretending otherwise is pointless. As the talk on his talk page makes clear, Bardcom is not to be trusted: he keeps inexplicably missing text that he has actually responded to; he quotes the first sentence of the revert policy but somehow fails to read the second... all very odd, or rather, not odd at all

You wrote this before I posted the last warning, but this is particularly incivil and breaches WP:AGF. Can we agree that we are searching for a way to resolve the dispute, and that as part of it, we will remain civil and not engage in personal attacks? Thank you. --Bardcom (talk) 21:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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Funny how admins can get away with this.
No really.
Its funny.


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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Tue 15th July 2008, 9:36pm) *
has anyone suggested just running a content RfC, and everyone agreeing to abide by the result?
The problem with that suggestion is that it relies on the parties in the dispute being "reasonable". My experience is that in any drawn-out dispute on Wikipedia, at least some of the disputants are not being reasonable, have no interest in being reasonable, and may not even be capable of being reasonable. Attempting to resolve such disputes reasonably is simply going to lead to burnout.


Sounds like WMC all right

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QUOTE(ComeGetMe @ Tue 15th July 2008, 10:59pm) *

Oooh! Bardy just posted this on WMCs Talk page.

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William, this comment on ATren's Talk page is a clear breach of civility. The bolding is mine to highlight the problem sentences.

Somewhat patronising, but to answer your essential point: Bardcom is engaged in a one-man campaign to remove the words British Isles from wiki. He is editing in bad faith, and a glance at his edits will show you this. Pretending otherwise is pointless. As the talk on his talk page makes clear, Bardcom is not to be trusted: he keeps inexplicably missing text that he has actually responded to; he quotes the first sentence of the revert policy but somehow fails to read the second... all very odd, or rather, not odd at all

You wrote this before I posted the last warning, but this is particularly incivil and breaches WP:AGF. Can we agree that we are searching for a way to resolve the dispute, and that as part of it, we will remain civil and not engage in personal attacks? Thank you. --Bardcom (talk) 21:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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And now its gone again. I notice WMC is removing all warnings. How did WMC actually get to be an admin?

Alison?
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QUOTE(ComeGetMe @ Tue 15th July 2008, 11:18pm) *



And now its gone again. I notice WMC is removing all warnings. How did WMC actually get to be an admin?



Posting templates to an admin just won't work and seems cheeky (sad to say.)

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BTW - Bardy just contacted me in email and wants me to get involved in brokering some sort of dispute resolution. I'll take a look soon, but I'm just too busy with real-life for much wiki stuff right now. Interestingly, he seems to be of the same opinion as Brad in getting everyone around the table to talk.


Of course he will say that- otherwise he has acted in such a way as to have no reserve of good will from others and is cruising for a block. He needs to pay lip service to something to save his bacon. (forgive my cynicism.)

Also, people with views that fixed can't really compromise, even if they say they want to, I think.
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Also, people with views that fixed can't really compromise, even if they say they want to, I think.

Is that cryptic? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

The glass is always "half-full", it'll work out in the end. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)
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