The JoshuaZ sockpuppeting post Options

[msharma]

Uh oh, the ArbCom has been alerted to this thread. Everyone wave hello!

How do you know that?

[Robster]

As always, evidence that would get an ordinary person tarred, feathered, and IP-blocked is pretty well swept under the rug for a Cabalista.

Disgusting. That's really the only word for it.

And we know The Usual Suspects won't do anything about it, because they're convinced that they are above their own rules.

And it's obscure enough that publicizing it will get a big "huh? wha?" from the general public.

So the JoshBot will skate.

[badlydrawnjeff]

I can't say I'm very surprised. $10 says this comes up in inclusionism/deletionism discussions in the future.

[Poetlister]

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read this. And they banned me.

[the fieryangel]

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read this. And they banned me.

Wow, FloNight herself on Wikipedia Review, reading this thread!

Hi Flo!

[cyofee]

Someone needs to tell this to Cade Metz.

[Piperdown]

Someone needs to tell this to Cade Metz.

I hope that Metz is meeting the 1,841 GW emails, and would be busy interviewing the Arbcommers and the Bomissars on what they have they say about the cavalcade. And that is a lot of bull to wade through. The interrupting bellylaughs would slow the investigation down a bit too. I also hope some honest journalists at other publications with more impact on the business world are reading the 8000 emails.

The Sword of DamnByrneocles hangs over the Kangaroo Arbcoms, the Soopersekret Lists, and the Usual Hypocrites. They are probably letting the Star Chamber complete the process of fullying displaying how crooked they are before dropping the sword. Just a guess.

I would love to see the Star Chamber's proceedings on my Overblocking and compare it to the JoshuaZ hypocrisy transcripts. Even Samiharris got to opine in that court. I didn't. Everyone enjoying the Jimbo flipflopping?

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read this. And they banned me.

Wow, FloNight herself on Wikipedia Review, reading this thread!

Hi Flo!

Yes, hello FloNight, liar about MM=Tomstoner=Lastexit while he/she banned and drove off good editors while letting a serially abusive, spamming, POV pusher destroy the integrity of BLPs, religiously and politically charged articles, and turn consensus and voting into a sham.

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Fri 15th February 2008, 1:55pm

[Kato]

I already know the answers, and the reasons why, but I'll ask the questions rhetorically anyway:

WHAT ON EARTH ARE THE LIKES OF JAYJG AND DAVID GERARD DOING COMMENTING ON THE ARBITRATORS FORUMS? THEY ARE NOT ARBITRATORS ANYMORE. NOR WOULD THEY STAND A CHANCE OF BEING ARBITRATORS AGAIN AS THEY HAVE NO RESPECT IN THE COMMUNITY. BOTH HAVE BEEN FOUND TO HAVE COMMITTED GROSS VIOLATIONS ON WIKI, AND THEIR METHODS TO INFLUENCE WIKIPEDIA HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY DISCREDITED. WHY ARE THEY STILL ALLOWED TO INFLUENCE ARBITRATION PROCEEDINGS FROM SMOKE-FILLED BACKROOMS?

WHEN WILL WIKIPEDIA EVEN CONSIDER CLEANING UP ITS CORRUPT CORE? HOW MANY PUBLIC SCANDALS WILL IT TAKE BEFORE WIKIPEDIANS REMOVE THESE PEOPLE FROM THE SITE?

[Aloft]

Don't be silly. Jimbo likes to surround himself with yes-men. Those two aren't going anywhere.

[Piperdown]

Don't be silly. Jimbo likes to surround himself with yes-men. Those two aren't going anywhere.

The WP Community has, on WP (and other mailing lists), and sometimes realworld:

1 - Asked the oversight abusing "Allegations of <disruption>" Jajyg to leave. Which he did, for awhile. Kind of.
2 - Declared overwhemingly that Mantanmoreland has previously abusively sockpuppeted, and was erroneously let off the hook while others were banned for complaining about, then returned to proxysock as Samiharris.
3 - Declared that Gerard is a WP:DICK, and his inability to understand simple IP range concepts is an embarrassment to WP. Not to mention he has no business editing an encyclopedia, which luckily he's come to realise himself. Just check his contributions.
4 - Declared that JzG has no business adminstrating WP, not to mention a Tourette's Syndrome Support Group
5 - That what Essjay did was wrong, no matter how good of a virtual friend (lol!) he was
6 - That the Vilification of Daniel Brandt was wrong. Keeping posting the dossiers of those 15 yr old liars, Brandt, they didn't give you your day in court.


Yet Jimbo didn't have a problem with any of that.

Jimbo, you have a problem alright. Your community has come to a consensus that you and your Mizoli meat should go away from WP. You have your Wikia, where you can harvest the peasant's handiwork for your profits.

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Fri 15th February 2008, 2:32pm

[Amarkov]

Silly reincarnation of evil banned for harassment user:WordBomb. Don't you know that the community is defined by holding the right opinion? Our system of consensus should never, ever arrive at the wrong decision, as defined by Jimbo. If it does, that means someone sockpuppeted, or meatpuppeted, or was disruptive, or votestacked, or something like that. And if it's shown that none of those things happened... well then, the people who are wrong didn't sufficiently argue for their opinion when I yelled that they were evil proxies for banned user harassment memes. And people who can't yell as loudly as me don't count when forming consensus.

[Rootology]

The really curious bit here isn't did, or didn't JoshuaZ do this--the evidence frankly is damning, and I know for a fact that DSL.net issues static IP addresses. How do I know that? I grew up in that region. I've lived in New Haven, CT, a mere few hundred yards from the very neighborhood JoshuaZ lives in, and have had multiple employers with DSL.net services. Given what sorts of things I do for a living, I know a whole heckuva lot about IP addresses and how they work.

Arbiters or Checkusers I know (even ones who think I don't like them) are free to email me directly for more information on this specific to that ISP provider if needed. How much do I know about that ISP? Hint: I know the physical layout of their main offices and network operation center space from having been there so many times for business. Probably won't be needed to contact me though, because to be frank, if they got him on ISP evidence from that provider, sayonara. That's the level of genetic forensic evidence for that. People get a DSL.net IP, they may have it for years. Basically, guys that are Checkusers, if you're reading this (looking at you, Dom--you know I'm not a bad guy especially: if you got him on DSL.net IP evidence, trust it--that is damn near bulletproof, and sometimes from them a 1:1 mapping for machines to IPs). The only possible defense now is social. That is, if the Arbcom buys what he may or may not spin this as. If he does.

The really curious thing is this: Arbcom communications are no longer secure, with evidence for the very first time. How long till they go nuts trying to find out who talked to Kohs? To the brave person: keep it up. Why? Because change and betterment only happens when someone has the stones to force it.

Second most curious: how long till people get sanctioned or Oversighted for talking about this on Wikipedia?

[Piperdown]

what you are seeing in the JoshZ transcript, you could play "Mad-Libs" with, ca. 2006, and replace with "Mantanmoreland" in a search/replace edit.

The Star Chamber was going to let Josh get off (ewww!) by stopping the sockuse and continue the primary abuse.



File a RFCU on JoshZ and his sockshow.

Don't stand for anything less than on-WP community accountability.

[Moulton]

I operated under the assumption that this was Wikipedia Review related which Paul (FeloniousMonk) suggested.

Presumably, "Paul" is Paul Mitchell, aka User:OddNature and "Skip" on Google Blogger. Skip posts on Google Blogger from Macy's San Francisco Operations Center. This fits in with other evidence (reported elsewhere) that FeloniousMonk and OddNature are one and the same.

[Piperdown]

I operated under the assumption that this was Wikipedia Review related which Paul (FeloniousMonk) suggested.

Presumably, "Paul" is Paul Mitchell, aka User:OddNature and "Skip" on Google Blogger. Skip posts on Google Blogger from Macy's San Francisco Operations Center. This fits in with other evidence (reported elsewhere) that FeloniousMonk and OddNature are one and the same.

hey, they didn't have a problem with SlimVirgin's double-voting sock SweetBlueWater, so anything goes. Even Jimbo personally brushed that one under the rug.

Anyone hear from Cyde much lately? No? Giano? No? See a trend?

[Herschelkrustofsky]

We need a scorecard of major cabal admins caught in the act of abusive sockpuppetry. So far, I can think of JoshuaZ and SlimVirgin; who else do we have?

[Moulton]

Joshua Z offers a lot of alternate theories to explain the forensic data, but did he ever come out and unequivocally deny the basic allegations?

If so, I missed his direct denial.

[Piperdown]

Idiot declares JoshZ's sock tag as "unsourced"

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=191638385

Your whole corrupt Scarlett A SockHunt is an unsourced lie, idiot. Anyone ever see any sourcing on what got me labeled a sock? Does it matter?



This post has been edited by Piperdown: Fri 15th February 2008, 3:44pm

[Daniel Brandt]

Can we get someone at Yale to send us a video of JoshuaZ denying this?

Can I get my block reviewed now, since JoshuaZ and his socks have been harassing me for a year?

[Rootology]

JoshuaZ requested to be deadminned on 2/5/08.

What was the date the evidence went to Arbcom?

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...oshuaZ%40enwiki