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Posted by: carbuncle

Best retirement notice ever?

QUOTE
Goodbye Wikipedia.Oh and Aitias you really are an arsehole.

Posted by: Somey

Not hardly! Besides, they've deleted RMHED (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's user page, so we can't even verify this.

Posted by: carbuncle

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 26th February 2009, 2:53am) *

Not hardly! Besides, they've deleted RMHED (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's user page, so we can't even verify this.


It was on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RMHED&diff=273339273&oldid=273339204, not his user page. His user page was deleted at his request as one of the first signs of impending meltdown, along with putting a banner at the top of his talk page reading "GO AWAY".

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Wed 25th February 2009, 9:09pm) *
It was on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RMHED&diff=273339273&oldid=273339204, not his user page. His user page was deleted at his request as one of the first signs of impending meltdown, along with putting a banner at the top of his talk page reading "GO AWAY".

At the moment, it says "The End Is Nigh"...

It still doesn't look particularly unusual, though. And it just happened, so hardly worth mentioning at this stage - most of the established users who do this are back within a week, sometimes within a day or two. And they've learned nothing in the meantime, unfortunately.

I don't mean to seem dismissive, though... Is there anything special or unusual about this situation that doesn't appear at first glance? unsure.gif

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

Unusual? Well, RMHED was an Arb Comm candidate, so he's of at least slight interest, I'd think. He also tried, in his way, to address the BLP problem (by sticking PRODs on dozens or hundreds of unreferenced BLPs). But I think his departure's probably been a while in coming.

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 25th February 2009, 7:23pm) *

Unusual? Well, RMHED was an Arb Comm candidate, so he's of at least slight interest, I'd think. He also tried, in his way, to address the BLP problem (by sticking PRODs on dozens or hundreds of unreferenced BLPs). But I think his departure's probably been a while in coming.


He's on a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:RMHED right now and from the looks of things, has now got himself blocked. He's gone on to cycle out his IP address to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hours_of_service&oldid=273347898 articles with the 'ARSEHOLE' comment. Mega-burnout ohmy.gif confused.gif

Posted by: Anonymous editor

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 25th February 2009, 10:23pm) *

Unusual? Well, RMHED was an Arb Comm candidate, so he's of at least slight interest, I'd think. He also tried, in his way, to address the BLP problem (by sticking PRODs on dozens or hundreds of unreferenced BLPs). But I think his departure's probably been a while in coming.


I do agree. He's been showing signs of instability for quite some time and the flameout honestly took longer than I had expected.

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 25th February 2009, 10:41pm) *

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 25th February 2009, 7:23pm) *

Unusual? Well, RMHED was an Arb Comm candidate, so he's of at least slight interest, I'd think. He also tried, in his way, to address the BLP problem (by sticking PRODs on dozens or hundreds of unreferenced BLPs). But I think his departure's probably been a while in coming.


He's on a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:RMHED right now and from the looks of things, has now got himself blocked. He's gone on to cycle out his IP address to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hours_of_service&oldid=273347898 articles with the 'ARSEHOLE' comment. Mega-burnout ohmy.gif confused.gif


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Posted by: The Wales Hunter

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Thu 26th February 2009, 3:23am) *

Unusual? Well, RMHED was an Arb Comm candidate, so he's of at least slight interest, I'd think. He also tried, in his way, to address the BLP problem (by sticking PRODs on dozens or hundreds of unreferenced BLPs). But I think his departure's probably been a while in coming.


Standing for Arbcom is, arguably, one technique used by those who have realised they can't change the system and just want to make as public a comment - "inWiki" - as they can before giving up entirely.

Perhaps.

Posted by: EricBarbour

And now, he'll be tagged forever as a "problem", by assorted officious little slimes.
After THEY made his life miserable.

This is becoming at least a weekly occurrence.

It's what those little fuckers excel at--
driving otherwise good people crazy.

And btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deaths_in_2009&diff=prev&oldid=273327236 is not a "sickening joke". Appropriate, if anything.

Anyone familiar with this Aitias (T-C-L-K-R-D) person? Looks like yet another
block-revert machine who contributes almost nothing, and ignores criticisms.
(Or stabs the criticizer in the back.)

QUOTE
RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks. — Aitias // discussion 02:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


(Starting to get the feeling that Aitias IS, in fact, an arsehole....)

Posted by: Wikileaker

If Aitias isn't a child, he certainly behaves like one all the time.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE
RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks. — Aitias // discussion 02:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Just once I want to see somebody feel free to say: "Well, son, that depends entirely upon whether or not he is making a WP:V statement..."

Posted by: SmashTheState

Yeah, I noticed that:

Off-wiki harassment by User:EricBarbour

I just saw this edit from User:EricBarbour at RMHED's talk page inviting RMHED to participate in a off-wiki discussion here [link to this thread]. In this discussion User:EricBarbour wrote: “(Starting to get the feeling that Aitias IS, in fact, an arsehole....)”. I won't take action here myself, but nevertheless I'd like to ask whether this kind of off-wiki harassment is deemed acceptable. — Aitias // discussion 04:55, 26 February 2009


"Boo hoo hoo, the bad mans are saying insulting and perfectly true things about me!"

Why on Earth is he crying to people on Wikipedia about what's being written about him here? Does he think Jimbo can wave his magic fasces and punish all the wrong-doers? What the hell does he expect a bunch of pimply Wikipedia factotums to do about it? These people really do have a total lack of perspective and social skills, don't they?

RMHED was one of the few people to dare to defy the groupthink of the Wikistocracy when I was indefinitely blocked by JzG, and it annoys me to see him being fed into Jimbo's woodchipper.

Posted by: EricBarbour

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Off-wiki_harassment_by_User:EricBarbour..........he's DEFINITELY an arsehole. laugh.gif

Posted by: Kato

I was quite impressed by this "RMHED" character and his http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=21102&view=findpost&p=141562 when he ran for that election recently.

QUOTE(RMHED)
A. I'm all in favour of an Opt Out of the marginally notable, or to be clearer, anybody not in a traditional paper encyclopedia of one kind or another should be allowed to Opt Out of Wikipedia.
A. Yes to that, the sooner a non consensus BLP AfD is a default delete the better IMO.

....

A. I'd try to pressure the Foundation into taking an OFFICE action of semi protecting all BLP's and introducing Flaged Revisions. This stuff is too important to be left to consensus, trying to get a consensus for any major change on Wikipedia is nigh on impossible these days.


At least he has the right idea and priorities.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(Kato @ Thu 26th February 2009, 1:21am) *
At least he has the right idea and priorities.

He does seem like quite a decent fellow, actually. It's a good thing I didn't say anything particularly disparaging about him earlier on in the thread! blink.gif

If he's already a WR member, I have no idea which one of us he is...

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 25th February 2009, 11:27pm) *

He does seem like quite a decent fellow

Seemed.

Now, he's a demon from Wiki-hell Who Must Be Destroyed.

QUOTE
Does he think Jimbo can wave his magic fasces and punish all the wrong-doers?

Yes, he does, in fact.
Jimbo has a mysterious magical power over pimply nerds.....

Posted by: jd turk

Good grief, what a mess and a waste of time. Childishness abounds, and am I correct that Aitias is an admin?

It's like a ready-made billboard for why Wikipedia is a waste of time. At any given point, a discussion between two people the WP community trusts (one of whom can apparently block people) can degenerate into a schoolyard shoving match between two thirteen year-olds.

Posted by: maggot3

Aitias really is a moron. He was the first person to oppose flagged revisions in the vote, if that helps at all.

Posted by: Kato

QUOTE(maggot3 @ Thu 26th February 2009, 8:07am) *

Aitias really is a moron. He was the first person to oppose flagged revisions in the vote, if that helps at all.

Yes, Aitias seems to be a complete jerk. Take a look at this, where Aitias blocked RMHED back in December for ridiculous reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RMHED&diff=prev&oldid=260780560#December_2008

Posted by: UseOnceAndDestroy

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 26th February 2009, 7:47am) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 25th February 2009, 11:27pm) *

He does seem like quite a decent fellow

Seemed.

Decent people get frustrated too. Here's another case of user burnout, while wikipediots do nothing about the bullying from one of their admins.

This is the consequence of behaviour discussed in http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=23059 - wikipedia puts its unpaid labourers into a pressure cooker, then shrugs off responsibility when the stress starts to show.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Thu 26th February 2009, 3:51am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 26th February 2009, 7:47am) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 25th February 2009, 11:27pm) *

He does seem like quite a decent fellow

Seemed.

Decent people get frustrated too. Here's another case of user burnout, while wikipediots do nothing about the bullying from one of their admins.

This is the consequence of behaviour discussed in http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=23059 - wikipedia puts its unpaid labourers into a pressure cooker, then shrugs off responsibility when the stress starts to show.


RHMED is one of the resident British malcontents with problems telling the difference between irony and rudeness -- his attempts to be wry never quite worked and he often wound up coming across as sour, sarcastic and mean-spirited. Not being an admin, he was never able to get away with this silly behavior and was, thus, the subject of harassment (as we see today). He also lacked admin clique protection that shields other perennial big mouths -- fellow Brit Malleus Flatulence (or whatever the fuck his name is) does the same shtick but is protected by the admin Iridescent, who also falls into the category of the obnoxious British boors (it must be something in the water over there).

That being said, the RHMED murder looks like a Wiki who's who of tool-possessing assholes. We have Barry Bonds-worthy banhammer swings from the likes of Xeno, Tznkai, Protonk, Aitas, Kevin -- to paraphrase Baha Men, who let the jerks out?

However, barnstars are in order for Wehwalt (perhaps the one admin with a brain, heart and courage) and Eric Barbour (my new hero) for bringing a sense of maturity and sincerity to this mess. And a cheer to Smash the State for his input at WP:AN. evilgrin.gif

Posted by: LaraLove

QUOTE(SmashTheState @ Thu 26th February 2009, 12:15am) *

Yeah, I noticed that:

Off-wiki harassment by User:EricBarbour

I just saw this edit from User:EricBarbour at RMHED's talk page inviting RMHED to participate in a off-wiki discussion here [link to this thread]. In this discussion User:EricBarbour wrote: “(Starting to get the feeling that Aitias IS, in fact, an arsehole....)”. I won't take action here myself, but nevertheless I'd like to ask whether this kind of off-wiki harassment is deemed acceptable. — Aitias // discussion 04:55, 26 February 2009


Hahaha. Someone's a little sensitive.

This sort of meltdown is what I saw in my own future. I parted before I popped my top; otherwise, I would have been cussing people out left and right.

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 26th February 2009, 9:05am) *

RHMED [...] also lacked admin clique protection that shields other perennial big mouths -- fellow Brit Malleus Flatulence (or whatever the fuck his name is) does the same shtick but is protected by the admin Iridescent, who also falls into the category of the obnoxious British boors (it must be something in the water over there).

Fatuorum, dipstick. Some people just deserve some protection. He's one of them. Anyway, good call on categorizing Eva Destruction as an "obnoxious British boor". You really enjoy talking out of your ass don't you?

Some people on the project really have good intentions and do their best to bring about positive change -- like improving the handling of BLPs, provoking change in the way unruly admins are handled and in the RFA process, etc, etc -- while also doing great content work. It's practically impossible to actually see any change in the broken areas of the project, but at least they put in effort. You apparently lump these people in a category of "obnoxious British boors". Fascinating.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Thu 26th February 2009, 10:47am) *


Fatuorum, dipstick. Some people just deserve some protection. He's one of them. Anyway, good call on categorizing Eva Destruction as an "obnoxious British boor". You really enjoy talking out of your ass don't you?


"Dipstick"? "Talking out of your ass"? Hey, did Tanthalas39 hack Lara's account? fear.gif Doesn't matter -- when a Hot Chili Mama like Lara wants to dis me, I'll take the abuse and come back for seconds. evilgrin.gif

Posted by: Bottled_Spider

Definitely one of the most entertaining burnouts so far this year, though I get the impression that it was mostly planned in the sense that he clearly wanted out of that shithole and decided to make it as messy as possible. Good for him.

Of course there always has to be an arsehole in these situations, so step forward Aitias (T-C-L-K-R-D) ! Your 15 minutes has begun; enjoy the ride. You weasly little fuckwit. No offence. I think his much-mentioned http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=273337281&oldid=273334254 is a classic and is deserving of placement in some kind of "Wikipedia's Greatest Weasly Hits" category.

QUOTE
Calling me an arsehole
RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks.

Wonderful. He's a genuine wanker, and obviously completely oblivious to the fact. Heh!

Posted by: Peter Damian

QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Thu 26th February 2009, 5:16pm) *

Definitely one of the most entertaining burnouts so far this year, though I get the impression that it was mostly planned in the sense that he clearly wanted out of that shithole and decided to make it as messy as possible. Good for him.

Of course there always has to be an arsehole in these situations, so step forward Aitias (T-C-L-K-R-D) ! Your 15 minutes has begun; enjoy the ride. You weasly little fuckwit. No offence. I think his much-mentioned http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=273337281&oldid=273334254 is a classic and is deserving of placement in some kind of "Wikipedia's Greatest Weasly Hits" category.

QUOTE
Calling me an arsehole
RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks.

Wonderful. He's a genuine wanker, and obviously completely oblivious to the fact. Heh!


A wakner, you mean.

Posted by: Peter Damian

QUOTE
That's as maybe, but could someone stuff a cork in the little bugger, please? HalfShadow 04:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

"Stuff a cork in the little bugger"? Could you be more homophobic, please? Maybe if you called him a knob-gobbling fudgepacker you could be a bit more offensive. -- SmashTheState (talk) 04:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Possibly. But since you're only here to tell us how badly we're screwing up, your opinion doesn't hold much water, so... HalfShadow

Please refrain from posting things which do nothing but to stir up drama. If you feel that halfshadow's affectation was homophobic, take it up with him on his talk page. And half, don't egg him on. Protonk (talk) 04:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Posted by: Peter Damian

Idea for new tactic.

Support the inane ideas of people like Aitias wherever possible. Encourage them into committing further atrocities. Drive every half-decent editor of the 'project'. Watch Wikipedia self-destruct.

Posted by: SmashTheState

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 2:59pm) *

Idea for new tactic.

Support the inane ideas of people like Aitias wherever possible. Encourage them into committing further atrocities. Drive every half-decent editor of the 'project'. Watch Wikipedia self-destruct.


Not new. That's precisely the tactic Che Guevara most often employed. With a relatively tiny but highly mobile guerilla force, he would make small, lightning-fast raids against military targets and then vanish, denying the enemy a target to respond. By doing this repeatedly he would goad the State into ever greater and more repressive reprisals against its own citizens until they could tolerate it no longer, at which point Che was there to provide them with guns and training.

Posted by: Eva Destruction

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 26th February 2009, 2:05pm) *

[blah, blah, blah]

Just out of interest, when have I ever "protected" Malleus? And since when have I been British? (I'll concede the "obnoxious boor" if you like.)

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

QUOTE(SmashTheState @ Thu 26th February 2009, 3:10pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 2:59pm) *

Idea for new tactic.

Support the inane ideas of people like Aitias wherever possible. Encourage them into committing further atrocities. Drive every half-decent editor of the 'project'. Watch Wikipedia self-destruct.


Not new. That's precisely the tactic Che Guevara most often employed. With a relatively tiny but highly mobile guerilla force, he would make small, lightning-fast raids against military targets and then vanish, denying the enemy a target to respond. By doing this repeatedly he would goad the State into ever greater and more repressive reprisals against its own citizens until they could tolerate it no longer, at which point Che was there to provide them with guns and training.


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Posted by: EricBarbour

Ooh! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Off-wiki_harassment_by_User:EricBarbour

Blog material!! And I just loooove how Protonk pretended to "calm the waters", whilst
taking a backhanded swipe at me.

If a turd drips in the wiki-forest, does it make a sound?

Posted by: LaraLove

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 12:57pm) *

QUOTE
That's as maybe, but could someone stuff a cork in the little bugger, please? HalfShadow 04:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

"Stuff a cork in the little bugger"? Could you be more homophobic, please? Maybe if you called him a knob-gobbling fudgepacker you could be a bit more offensive. -- SmashTheState (talk) 04:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


What was that in response to that it's taken as homophobic? I read it to mean "shut him up".

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 26th February 2009, 5:35pm) *

Ooh! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Off-wiki_harassment_by_User:EricBarbour

Blog material!! And I just loooove how Protonk pretended to "calm the waters", whilst
taking a backhanded swipe at me.

If a turd drips in the wiki-forest, does it make a sound?

Haha. And now Ottava is there to post a disclaimer about Alison's participation here. Someone should note that he's banned from this site (right?), which might also cause his comments to be a bit biased.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 26th February 2009, 3:35pm) *

Ooh! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Off-wiki_harassment_by_User:EricBarbour

Blog material!! And I just loooove how Protonk pretended to "calm the waters", whilst
taking a backhanded swipe at me.

If a turd drips in the wiki-forest, does it make a sound?

QUOTE

Ottava - stop stirring trouble. I'm not a 'prominent member' of Wikipedia Review - I'm a regular poster there. Unlike you, who got banned from there. Ooops - disclosure! smile.gif And again, what Eric said on there cannot be construed as 'harassment', at best, it's a direct observation, at worst, an offensive epithet. Time to move on and let it go - Alison ❤ 22:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Can we not escalate this entire mess any further, before we start seeing meltdowns? rootology ©(T) 05:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Is Eric Barbour's statement verifiable? Wikipedia has strict conditions for verifiability. Richard Hock (talk) 11:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

That's not even original, that's just borrowed from what they were saying at WR. At least write your own material, dude!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

What's WR? Richard Hock (talk) 12:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Wrathful Rantings [pipelink to WP article on WR]; a website chock a block with generators and purveyors of hot air and the rare quite funny joke (some of whom are not WP admins, or even editors). LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


Our feelings are hurt. I think quite funny jokes are more than rare on WR, LessHorrid. Not quite up to WP standards, but we try harder.

Of course, LH, not wanting to stir up trouble, failed to mention he posts here, also. Being pounced on by Ottava would not be a quite funny thing. No, not at all. laugh.gif laugh.gif At least not if you're LessHorrid. happy.gif

Posted by: Rhindle

QUOTE

RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks.



This kind of tattling is what I dealt with when I worked with third graders today.

Posted by: Moulton

QUOTE( Aitias)
Calling me an arsehole
RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks.

Bailiff! http://www.google.com/search?q=bailiff+whack+his+pee+pee.

Posted by: Bottled_Spider

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 5:34pm) *
QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Thu 26th February 2009, 5:16pm) *
Wonderful. He's a genuine wanker, and obviously completely oblivious to the fact. Heh!
A wakner, you mean.

I can go with that. An asbotule, tatol wakner.

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Thu 26th February 2009, 10:50pm) *
Haha. And now Ottava is there to post a disclaimer about Alison's participation here.

Understatement mode ON That Octopus Reamer guy appears to be rather anal. Understatement mode OFF

Posted by: Alex

This is excellent news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Aitias.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Thu 26th February 2009, 4:50pm) *
Haha. And now Ottava is there to post a disclaimer about Alison's participation here. Someone should note that he's banned from this site (right?), which might also cause his comments to be a bit biased.

Just for the record, Ottava rima (T-C-L-K-R-D) was one of the worst and most obnoxious right-wing hate-mongers we've ever had to deal with here, to the point where I (and one or two others) became convinced he was faking the whole thing just to amuse himself at our expense. But for him to call us "hateful" is like... oh dear, I don't think there's even an analogy for that one! wacko.gif

He's a good example of everything that's wrong (and hateful) with Wikipedia and its sister projects. He's also a liar, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that he's also an Encyclopedia Dramatica admin.

Posted by: LaraLove

QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 27th February 2009, 11:22am) *

Ottava rima (T-C-L-K-R-D) [...] was faking the whole thing just to amuse himself at our expense. [...] I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that he's also an Encyclopedia Dramatica admin.

Having spoken to him since his ban from here, I believe the former to be true, and I would not be surprised to find the latter to also be true.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Fri 27th February 2009, 11:04am) *
Having spoken to him since his ban from here, I believe the former to be true, and I would not be surprised to find the latter to also be true.

And just to clarify, the reason we banned him wasn't for the right-wing hate-mongering itself, though we were certainly tempted on several occasions. We banned him for wasting our time, and taking advantage of our lenient tendencies, with a lame-assed "let's see how quickly can I get banned" experiment.

If I thought he might be capable of contributing something of value here though, I might just consider... naaah. smile.gif

Posted by: Wikileaker

QUOTE(Alex @ Thu 26th February 2009, 8:43pm) *

This is excellent news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Aitias.

That's like a blueprint of fail right there. If you want to know the correct way to perform a hitjob on Wikipedia, you need look no further than your own RFC.

Posted by: Alex

QUOTE(Wikileaker @ Fri 27th February 2009, 5:13pm) *

QUOTE(Alex @ Thu 26th February 2009, 8:43pm) *

This is excellent news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Aitias.

That's like a blueprint of fail right there. If you want to know the correct way to perform a hitjob on Wikipedia, you need look no further than your own RFC.


You're too funny, Wikileaker!

Posted by: Caknuck

I'm the original blocking admin. If anybody has any concerns/objections/criticisms of my block, then let me know.

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

QUOTE(Caknuck @ Fri 27th February 2009, 5:40pm) *

I'm the original blocking admin. If anybody has any concerns/objections/criticisms of my block, then let me know.


I have a question:

How many knucks can a Canuck knuck if a Canuck can't spell Canuck?

Jon evilgrin.gif

Posted by: Caknuck

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Fri 27th February 2009, 4:46pm) *


I have a question:

How many knucks can a Canuck knuck if a Canuck can't spell Canuck?

Jon evilgrin.gif


Eleventeen.

"Caknuck" is a portmanteau of "canuck" and "knuckles". I started using it 14 or so years ago on IRC when other users started using my preferred nick.

Posted by: Bottled_Spider

QUOTE(Caknuck @ Fri 27th February 2009, 11:31pm) *
QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Fri 27th February 2009, 4:46pm) *
I have a question:
How many knucks can a Canuck knuck if a Canuck can't spell Canuck?
Jon evilgrin.gif

Eleventeen.
"Caknuck" is a portmanteau of "canuck" and "knuckles".

You should consider changing it to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cack ....... intransitive version, of course.
QUOTE
I started using it 14 or so years ago on IRC when other users started using my preferred nick.

Lots of users were using the same name? That must have been very confusing. By the way, what's your opinion on the "Aitias is an arsehole" situation?

Posted by: Caknuck

QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Fri 27th February 2009, 5:52pm) *
You should consider changing it to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cack ....... intransitive version, of course.

Due to a deliberate mispronunciation of one of my old roommates, I always associate "cack" with the second noun form.

QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Fri 27th February 2009, 5:52pm) *

QUOTE(Caknuck @ Fri 27th February 2009, 11:31pm) *
I started using it 14 or so years ago on IRC when other users started using my preferred nick.

Lots of users were using the same name? That must have been very confusing. By the way, what's your opinion on the "Aitias is an arsehole" situation?

I had been going by "knuckles" on efnet IRC from later 1994. By 1996, several other knuckleses popped up on the network, so I tried various alternates, including "knuckles-" and "canuck" until settling on "caknuck". It's stuck since then, and nobody else seems to want to bother trying to usurp it.

QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Fri 27th February 2009, 5:52pm) *
By the way, what's your opinion on the "Aitias is an arsehole" situation?

I had stepped AFK for a while after offering http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RMHED&diff=prev&oldid=273334435 of the block. By the time I got back, the whole situation had devolved and I quickly realized that I had nothing constructive to add to the conversations.

Personally, I think everyone could have benefited if Aitias had stepped back and put the kerosene can down. Once my initial block occurred, he should have backed off. That being said, when RMHED countered with the "arsehole" comment, he only exacerbated the problem. Both of them should have, as seicer said, stopped down for a nice cup of tea. You can't let stupid online disputes become personal, and this whole mess started as a stupid, stupid dispute.

Posted by: jd turk

And now that RHMED's talk page has been unprotected to allow discussion of what caused the wiki-suicide, Aitias can't resist coming by to make sure anyone who knows what's going on is an involved admin, and thus incapable of an unblock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RMHED&diff=prev&oldid=273738553

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(jd turk @ Fri 27th February 2009, 7:33pm) *

And now that RHMED's talk page has been unprotected to allow discussion of what caused the wiki-suicide, Aitias can't resist coming by to make sure anyone who knows what's going on is an involved admin, and thus incapable of an unblock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RMHED&diff=prev&oldid=273738553

Hee hee hee. Does that mean Aitias will recuse HIMSELF? nope.......

QUOTE
Jimmy wails for the BLP victims and yet still does nothing.
That's a cracker. Jimmy wails for no one but himself.

Posted by: Bottled_Spider

QUOTE(Caknuck @ Sat 28th February 2009, 1:50am) *
QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Fri 27th February 2009, 5:52pm) *
You should consider changing it to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cack ....... intransitive version, of course.
Due to a deliberate mispronunciation of one of my old roommates, I always associate "cack" with the second noun form.

Funny, that. I used to know a rather unpleasant character from the north of England who, after 14 or so pints of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Brown_Ale and a couple of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry#The_British_curry_house would always relapse into a writhing, screaming fit of uncontrollable laughter and exclaim "Oh fuck. I've just cacked me http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kecks". He was an idiot. But you can't deny the connection between cack and laughter, so my point still stands, whatever it was.
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You can't let stupid online disputes become personal, and this whole mess started as a stupid, stupid dispute.

...... And finished as a very entertaining one, due to some typically overwrought adminning. Thank you. On the whole, I'd say that RHMED ended up being the leper with most fingers.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Sat 28th February 2009, 2:18pm) *

...into a writhing, screaming fit of uncontrollable laughter and exclaim "Oh fuck. I've just cacked me http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kecks". He was an idiot. But you can't deny the connection between cack and laughter, so my point still stands, whatever it was.

Depends on whether you would describe this sound as http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cackle. Could be an unusual consonant shift, more so than having a viper to vash your vindows, meaning he has in fact cashed his checks (at least that's what I'd hope he meant).

QUOTE

...... And finished as a very entertaining one, due to some typically overwrought adminning. Thank you. On the whole, I'd say that RHMED ended up being the leper with most fingers.

I think the middle one is usually the last to fall off.

Posted by: carbuncle

Sigh. There's more.

MZMcBride deleted RMHED's user and talk page are they invoked their "right to vanish" on 3 March.

RMHED labelled as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Lyger99/Archive of accounts creating pages such as Jimmy Wales; Is He a Thieving Cunt? on 5 March.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User_talk%3ARMHED because "RtV only applies to users in good standing".

Apparently vanishing and staying vanished are completely separate things.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Thu 5th March 2009, 9:46am) *

Sigh. There's more.

MZMcBride deleted RMHED's user and talk page are they invoked their "right to vanish" on 3 March.

RMHED labelled as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Lyger99/Archive of accounts creating pages such as Jimmy Wales; Is He a Thieving Cunt? on 5 March.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User_talk%3ARMHED because "RtV only applies to users in good standing".

Apparently vanishing and staying vanished are completely separate things.


Poor RHMED. unsure.gif

Posted by: EricBarbour

And now, he's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#Vandal-fest_at_User:Jimbo_Wales with Jimbo's userpage under the name http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jimbo_Wales&action=history.

Nice work, Wiki-dicks. You've made yourselves another dedicated vandal. yak.gif

Posted by: LaraLove

Speaking of related stupidity:

Malleus Fatuorum (T-C-L-K-R-D) whipped out his junk and started thumping it on the foreheads of the sensitive in a bit of an uncivil fit a few hours ago. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=275547476#User:Malleus_Fatuorum.27s_lack_of_civility.

Not speaking on the incivility myself, but I did find it humorous that Aitias (T-C-L-K-R-D) was just jumping at the opportunity to issue the block, as he noted more than once:

QUOTE("Aitias")
If diff-links are provided for the above personal attacks I am going to block straight away. — Aitias // discussion 12:14 pm, Today (UTC)
and
QUOTE("Aitias")
As I wrote above, if diff-links are provided, especially for "stick it up your arse", "laughing stock" and "Live with it bitch" I am going to block straight away. — Aitias // discussion 12:17 pm, Today (UTC)

But he was apparently too lazy to go look at the history or Malleus' contribs for the diffs. Instead missing the fact that the diffs had already been posted in reply to his first request, before he made the second.

And then we get this beautiful series of block log entries (read from bottom up):
Also, further down the discussion, you'll see that TipToeTy (T-C-L-K-R-D) was in the process of indefinitely blocking Malleus. How completely stupid. The amount of high-quality contributions Malleus makes to the project is so far beyond the work these kids put in jacking up their edit count with Huggle... it just boggles the mind. Yes, he hurts your feelings. Best to kick his ass off the project, along with all the time he spend ... (wait for it) ... working on content!
But who needs content? "Without [it,] Wikipedia is just Facebook for ugly people." evilgrin.gif (Quote credit to Iridescent.)

Anyway, it's always amusing to see admins that don't understand what a wheel war is. They spew it out like they're up on their research, but then they look silly because it didn't happen. How is it not a personal attack by the standards of these overly sensitive editors to accuse an admin of wheel warring when no such warring has occurred? A wheel war, boys and girls, is when an admin action is overturned and then the overturned action is overturned. They can go on further from there. Simply overturning an admin's action =/= a wheel war. It's just impolite... and will get you desysoped if it has to do with ArbCom action, but I digress. Seriously, though. That's like saying someone is edit warring because they revert an edit. In this case, Coren (T-C-L-K-R-D) broke Wikipedia policy by wheel warring to restore the disputed block.
QUOTE("WP:WHEEL")
Do not repeat an administrative action when you know that another administrator opposes it.
But he's an Arb, so it's all good, right? (Read the subsection created by Coren and you'll see it is... at least according to him. He first says he did it not as an arb, but as an admin who happens to be an arb... but then he says he did it as an arb in the second and third paragraph of the same post... brilliant! wacko.gif )

So then there's pointless debate wherein Aitias refers to the unblock as "abusive", which is just wrong on so many levels. Glad to know this guy had such a peachy childhood that this is what he classifies as abuse. Lucky bastard. dry.gif
And then!, as if it weren't lulzy enough, an exchange of thinly veiled insults and polite incivility breaks out between Wehwalt and ... AITIAS! laugh.gif

To finish it off, it wouldn't be true drama if Durova didn't make an appearance. And she was even so polite as to apologize for being late... as if everyone expected her. Of course, we did all expect her, so I guess it's fair. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Fri 6th March 2009, 11:39pm) *

To finish it off, it wouldn't be true drama if Durova didn't make an appearance. And she was even so polite as to apologize for being late... as if everyone expected her. Of course, we did all expect her, so I guess it's fair. rolleyes.gif


Nobody expects--- the RussianGerman imposition!
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