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QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Sun 26th October 2008, 12:38am)  QUOTE(Alex @ Sun 26th October 2008, 12:26am) QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Sun 26th October 2008, 12:18am) Posted on Giano's talkpage. I never thought I'd see the day... Is there any particular arbitrators she's referring to? Any and all that didn't give her the free pass she wanted in the recent SlimVirgin/Lar matter? Well I've not really been following that. Other than the Arbcom case, is there anywhere I can read that can summarise what the situation with that is? |
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QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Sat 25th October 2008, 4:38pm) QUOTE(Alex @ Sun 26th October 2008, 12:26am) QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Sun 26th October 2008, 12:18am) Posted on Giano's talkpage. I never thought I'd see the day... Is there any particular arbitrators she's referring to? Any and all that didn't give her the free pass she wanted in the recent SlimVirgin/Lar matter? Maybe those bad ones that nailed FM. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Giano_II QUOTE(SV) Some of them no doubt do their best, Fred. But some are determined to stick up for their IRC mates ahead of any other consideration, or to do down people they don't like regardless of the facts. And some of them do nothing at all, which means that those who want to work don't have time to do it properly, so they come out with decisions that clearly show they've not read the evidence. It's always been like that to some extent, but it looks worse now than it's ever been. In addition to that, though, we have this new imperialist dictator thing, where some of them genuinely believe they can go around changing policy, and blocking good content contributors who really haven't done much wrong — while not allowing them to file RfArs and telling other admins not to unblock them. If we've had this before to any great degree, I certainly don't remember it. SlimVirgin talk|edits 22:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) Why, the very idea that a good-content contributor should be blocked and other admins told not to unblock them! Land sakes. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) What is WP coming to, these days? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Oh, wait-- anybody who has disagreed with SlimVirgin's POV in the past is a BAD-CONTENT contributor. By definition. So tag-team blocking them would have been okay. And that's why she doesn't remember ever seeing anything else. |
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QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Sun 26th October 2008, 12:18am) Posted on Giano's talkpage. I never thought I'd see the day... Especially this bit? QUOTE In addition to that, though, we have this new imperialist dictator thing, where some of them genuinely believe they can go around changing policy, and blocking good content contributors who really haven't done much wrong - SlimVirgin That's what makes Slim so sinister No wonder simple folk- like PD evidently - still think 'she' is worth defending! In passing: MiniConspiracy theory: SlimVirgin will have been involved in the 'special Jimbo block' of PD by Jimbo - clearly the two act strategically on all matters. Either the SV is literally insane, (ie. is unaware of the fact that 'it' has blocked many good content contributors while invariably acting as an imperialist dictator, changing the rules as suits, or this is part of some cunning plan to oust another admin... This post has been edited by flash: |
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QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Sun 26th October 2008, 6:06am)
Probably Giano and/or Peter Damian. Who knows?
Wow, I can picture the uneasy smirk on your face when you posted that. Who could've possibly been banned by ArbCom recently? I wonder... I sincerely hope SV isn't referring to your ban, considering how your outing, insulting, and smearing people on BADSITES (including moi for one, of course) seems to be completely against everything she publically condemns. |
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QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Sun 26th October 2008, 6:06am) QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 26th October 2008, 1:47am) QUOTE(Heat @ Sat 25th October 2008, 6:45pm) She can't be talking about FM since he's not been blocked. Good point. Just defrocked. Who, then? Probably Giano and/or Peter Damian. Who knows? It could be a lot of people by now. The point is that the ArbCom's blocks are increasingly blatantly political. Even with a true "rogue administrator" like Ryulong, most of his blocks are against actual vandals. The Committee shows no sign of caring about content. Its function is only to control the high-level politics of the project, and especially to purge it of its own critics. Now you see why the Founders ruled out Bill of Attainder in the US Constitution. Painful history reveals that Bill of Attainder is a corrosive and corrupting practice that eventually sinks any government that adopts and employs it as a regulatory tool. Per Hammurabi's first three laws (which deal with banishment and proving just cause), Giano is right to tell them to go jump in the lake. |
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QUOTE(Krimpet @ Sun 26th October 2008, 3:02pm)
I sincerely hope SV isn't referring to your ban, considering how your outing, insulting, and smearing people on BADSITES (including moi for one, of course) seems to be completely against everything she publically condemns.
So the Review is only a BADSITE when you're outed? As you're aware, I was myself outed on WR. You took that identification, pretending that it was the fruit of your own genius, and posted it to Wikipedia, falsely claiming that I'd intended to evade the Arbitrator's meaningless wikisanction, as if it were inconceivable that I hoped to avoid further attacks on my name - attacks which you cheerfully perpetuated. I don't remember you calling the Review (or Wikipedia for that matter) a "BADSITE" then. Truthfully, I was treated far more respectfully here (as are you) than you and your IRC buddies treated me on Wikipedia. You turned Wikipedia into a BADSITE for me, and, I'll wager, enjoyed every moment of it. I'm not happy to be blocked, but it beats bowing down to the likes of you. |
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QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Sun 26th October 2008, 9:24pm) QUOTE(Krimpet @ Sun 26th October 2008, 3:02pm)
I sincerely hope SV isn't referring to your ban, considering how your outing, insulting, and smearing people on BADSITES (including moi for one, of course) seems to be completely against everything she publically condemns.
So the Review is only a BADSITE when you're outed? As you're aware, I was myself outed on WR. You took that identification, pretending that it was the fruit of your own genius, and posted it to Wikipedia, falsely claiming that I'd intended to evade the Arbitrator's meaningless wikisanction, as if it were inconceivable that I hoped to avoid further attacks on my name - attacks which you cheerfully perpetuated. I don't remember you calling the Review (or Wikipedia for that matter) a "BADSITE" then. Truthfully, I was treated far more respectfully here (as are you) than you and your IRC buddies treated me on Wikipedia. You turned Wikipedia into a BADSITE for me, and, I'll wager, enjoyed every moment of it. I'm not happy to be blocked, but it beats bowing down to the likes of you. Good job straying from the point again. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) I'm not going to rehash my version of those events again and again, as much as you like to. (I'll repeat this, though: had you ever considered, um, telling me that your real name was the issue, instead of instantly going into your usual attack-dog mode and simply reverting me with the vague accusation of "violating WP:HARASS"?) Back to the point of this thread, I really hope it isn't your ban that SlimVirgin is referring to. I've always thought she has good intentions, though very frequently misguided. But if she doesn't understand why your ban was completely warranted... I really don't know what to think anymore. |
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QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 27th October 2008, 3:48pm) QUOTE(Heat @ Mon 27th October 2008, 7:37am) SV has just, bizarrely, added a picture of herself as a 3 year old to her user page. She also added the Latin phrase "Audi alteram partem!", which means (though my Latin is a bit rusty) "I gave birth to a German automobile!". Another astonishing piece of Slimvirginlore. It means "let the other side be heard" which is an incredibly ironic thing to say given how many editors she's tried to silence during various conflicts. |
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QUOTE(Heat @ Mon 27th October 2008, 7:37am)
SV has just, bizarrely, added a picture of herself as a 3 year old to her user page.
Wook at me. How could this cute widdle girl do harm to anyone? How could you not wuve her? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wub.gif) Well, I wuve all 3 year-olds. Kid pics of serial murderers are cute, and remind us of why their mothers still love them, even if nobody else does by the time they're ready for the old needle-of-reconcilliation. Just as soon as WP gives Slim the wikipowers of a three year-old (i.e., edit-only, like the rest of their 3-year olds whose only addition to content is "jikjknnknknknkn") I'm willing to forgive her past transgressions against articles and editors. But not forget-- in case they decide to backpedal. And Josh P. Gordon, though I love all music but rap (which doesn't count as music), you don't get WP points with me if you personally played every instrument including the kazoo and the holophoner with some band in 1973. If you don't stop tag-teaming, OWNing, and POV pushing, it simply makes us all wish somebody would shove all those instruments up where the music is greatly muffled and you walk funny. What you do on WP, is definitly not cool. You can even post a picture of yourself and Slim and Jayjg at age 3, giving us the WP version of Little Bush, and all that will happen is we'll laugh at you and still wish your mommies had toilet-trained you less brutally. Since you clearly have some kind of power-problem that only deep Freudian psychoanalysis is going to get at. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) |
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QUOTE(Heat @ Mon 27th October 2008, 7:37am)
SV has just, bizarrely, added a picture of herself as a 3 year old to her user page.
I'm guessing she did that to show there's a real, live human behind the screen name(s). So often, people are dehumanized by their detractors and thus it's far easier to bat them about. Just MHO. Giving people a voice and a face brings them into the real world. Little cutie, though, in her mary-jane shoes and button-up cardie (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) I wanna pick her up and hug her (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) And I'm fighting back an urge to go back on there and speedy-delete it, lest some freako decide to shoop it or something (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 27th October 2008, 8:48am)
She also added the Latin phrase "Audi alteram partem!", which means (though my Latin is a bit rusty) "I gave birth to a German automobile!". Another astonishing piece of Slimvirginlore.
Ok, now that is funny! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 27th October 2008, 10:17am) Wook at me. How could this cute widdle girl do harm to anyone? How could you not wuve her? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wub.gif) Well, I wuve all 3 year-olds. Kid pics of serial murderers are cute, and remind us of why their mothers still love them, even if nobody else does by the time they're ready for the old needle-of-reconcilliation. True, too, I guess (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) |
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QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 27th October 2008, 8:48am) QUOTE(Heat @ Mon 27th October 2008, 7:37am) SV has just, bizarrely, added a picture of herself as a 3 year old to her user page. She also added the Latin phrase "Audi alteram partem!", which means (though my Latin is a bit rusty) "I gave birth to a German automobile!". Another astonishing piece of Slimvirginlore. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Perhaps symbolically reclaiming Durova. Yes, Velma to her Scooby-Doo indeed. Jimbo as Shaggy. Lots of good metaphors here of late. |
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QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 27th October 2008, 2:12pm) QUOTE(Heat @ Mon 27th October 2008, 7:37am)
SV has just, bizarrely, added a picture of herself as a 3 year old to her user page.
I'm guessing she did that to show there's a real, live human behind the screen name(s). So often, people are dehumanized by their detractors and thus it's far easier to bat them about. Just MHO. Giving people a voice and a face brings them into the real world. Although I do think SV's picture is a manipulative ploy for sympathy, I think I might be falling for it. She was a darn cute kid (and sartorially snappy)! I know someone else who's going to upload a picture of himself as a toddler, if he can find one. He was far more slovenly at that age. And I suppose it would be pointless to restate what more eloquent minds have already recognized (i.e., the monumental, glaring, sickening hypocrisy of her user page plea for fairness/due process). |
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QUOTE(Obesity @ Mon 27th October 2008, 10:52pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 27th October 2008, 2:12pm) QUOTE(Heat @ Mon 27th October 2008, 7:37am)
SV has just, bizarrely, added a picture of herself as a 3 year old to her user page.
I'm guessing she did that to show there's a real, live human behind the screen name(s). So often, people are dehumanized by their detractors and thus it's far easier to bat them about. Just MHO. Giving people a voice and a face brings them into the real world. Although I do think SV's picture is a manipulative ploy for sympathy, I think I might be falling for it. She was a darn cute kid (and sartorially snappy)! I know someone else who's going to upload a picture of himself as a toddler, if he can find one. He was far more slovenly at that age. I want one! Shame I looked like a skinny, female version of Damien out of The Omen as a child. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) |
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QUOTE(One @ Tue 28th October 2008, 12:49am) Why are we dissing on SlimVirgin here? She's posted very cogent arguments about ArbCom's failings here. In fact, she agrees with many of the proposals first suggested by users here, and argues for them is a straightforward way. Quite frankly, there's much more criticism of Wikipedia in her posts on Jimbo's talk page than there is in this whole thread. I get that some people see her as a prolific past abuser, but if she wants to help reform ArbCom, I bless her for it. I upvote this post (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) |
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