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English Wikipedia (and Meta, and French Wikipedia, and Wikiversity, but strangely not Wikiquote) seems to have a server down right now. Anybody else notice this? Additionally, I notice that on the "error" page the Foundation has also craftily mentioned:

The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organisation which hosts some of the most popular sites on the Internet, including Wikipedia. It has a constant need to purchase new hardware. If you would like to help, please donate.

I wonder if they might be actually planning downtime deliberately, in order to drive up contributions?
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You're starting to see the true horror of keeping a major multi-colocated
database website up and going. It's like running LexisNexis, but on open-source
software and with no money and no hot backup. I'm amazed they don't have
major outages every day.
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 2nd July 2009, 4:55pm) *
You're starting to see the true horror of keeping a major multi-colocated database website up and going. It's like running LexisNexis, but on open-source software and with no money and no hot backup. I'm amazed they don't have major outages every day.
Indeed, it's amazing that they stay up as much as they do, given the number of single points of failure there are in their architecture. To be fair, many of them are forced by their choice to use mysql as a backend database, instead of a more robust product like, say, Oracle.

The router downtime that was mentioned above should have been avoidable if they had a proper hot-spare environment. But that costs a bit more money, and spending money on that would cut down on the size of Jimmy's castle fund.

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 2nd July 2009, 5:34pm) *
They use Squid. A lot. There's probably no practical way in hell to figure out where a chunk of data is in a system like this at any given moment.
I think something like two-thirds of their servers are just Squid engines. MediaWiki is way too slow to generate all the pages that Wikimedia serves across all the projects in real time.

It constantly amuses me to hear PHP culties go on about how well PHP scales, citing Wikipedia as proof, when the reality is that PHP scales like crap and the WMF has to throw tons of hardware at their half-assed content engine just to keep up.
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thekohser   When Wikipedia goes down  
michael   They're doing a poor job of planning it if the...  
gomi   They're doing a poor job of planning it if th...  
michael   You must not be on very much. I see a transitory...  
wikiwhistle   They're doing a poor job of planning it if th...  
luke   seems to be working again for the moment  
anthony   Take a look at the server admin log (personally I...  
GlassBeadGame   There is an oversighted edit though, that read:...  
cyofee   I see glitches and errors every once in a few week...  
LaraLove   When NawlinWiki was doing all his Grawp deletions ...  
Sylar   The English Wikipedia is extremely slow right now....  
lolwut   Pages are not loading for me at the moment.  
GlassBeadGame   Reminds of the Woody Allen joke of the two old lad...  
lolwut   Reminds of the Woody Allen joke of the two old la...  
Eva Destruction   To be boring for a minute – usually when yo...  
MZMcBride   To be boring for a minute – usually when y...  
lolwut   Wikipedia is slow as fuck tonight.  
Apathetic   Wikipedia is slow as fuck tonight. indeed !  
LaraLove   Wikipedia is slow as fuck tonight. Servers in th...  
Eva Destruction   [quote name='lolwut' post='181520' date='Thu 2nd ...  
Malleus   /]"European proxy caching cluster", appa...  
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='181525' date=...  
sbrown   "European proxy caching cluster", appar...  
Eva Destruction   "European proxy caching cluster", appa...  
sbrown   They're not in England (the clue's in the...  
Eva Destruction   They're not in England (the clue's in th...  
CharlotteWebb   They're not in England (the clue's in the...  
tarantino   "European proxy caching cluster", appa...  
Eva Destruction   If any Europeans are really desperate, going via t...  
LaraLove   If any Europeans are really desperate, going via ...  
EricBarbour   Amazing how ignorant your guys are about your favo...  
emesee   heckers McHeckers, ya; Epic Lulz. :confused: :co...  
Apathetic   slow as hell right now  
Nerd   slow as hell right now Are you Emesee in disgui...  
Apathetic   [quote name='Apathetic' post='186403' date='Thu 3...  
sbrown   Are you Emesee in disguise? no, why do you say ...  
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SDJ   nvm Yes. It's very strange, and something th...  
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