Voting begins, Giano isn't going down in flames !! Options

Already an inpouring of votes and Giano is already being opposed fairly quickly despite support from multiple arbs and checkusers. Interesting. I think the arbs are just token voting to make it look like they weren't trying to sink Giano's candidacy at all.

Oppose, sorry. I was all set to support, but Giano's refusal to accept policy on posting of private email, coupled with the appearance of grudge-bearing agains certain individuals, means I cannot have confidence in Giano maintaining the requisite level of discretion as an Arbitrator. Guy (Help!) 00:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Bit rich coming from the guy who betrayed Privatemusing, don'tcha think?

To most amusing thing is the amount of support Ryan Postlethwaite is getting. I love that Wikipedians think that people like him are suitable for running a top ten website.

This post has been edited by KamrynMatika: Mon 3rd December 2007, 12:12am

There is something about dysfunctional organizations that engenders disharmonious factionalism leading to schism.

It would not surprise me if Wikipedia descends into a schismatic crisis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arb...ote/Newyorkbrad

As of this writing, Newyorkbrad currently stands unopposed at 66 supports.

And Mercury stands at unanimous 29 opposes.

Oh and here's a link to the quickvote page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...ote&redirect=no

There is something about dysfunctional organizations that engenders disharmonious factionalism leading to schism.

It would not surprise me if Wikipedia descends into a schismatic crisis.

I think that Wikipedia is far too schismophrenic already.

Jonny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gurch/Re...ArbComElections

Bot-generated vote stats.

Giano is number two in raw supports. Nice.

To most amusing thing is the amount of support Ryan Postlethwaite is getting. I love that Wikipedians think that people like him are suitable for running a top ten website.

Judging from the opposes, if he doesn't succeed, it will be thanks to his support for Durova. Ouch.

It's got to hurt, because Ryan did his level best to pitch the ball straight down the middle of the lane, as he usually does. Trouble here was there was no viable center - either Durova was to be desysoped or not - so his comments were seen as advocating a strong pro-Durova position dressed in apologies.

The smart money - Newyorkbrad - disapproved the block, but took no position in the RfC. Had he done so, he would have racked up a number of opposes by now no matter which side he took.

This post has been edited by Proabivouac: Mon 3rd December 2007, 1:09am

You want the GurchKwikQuount to keep up to date.

You know, I was certain that Alofts link didn't point there before....

This post has been edited by LessHorrid vanU: Mon 3rd December 2007, 1:13am

Already an inpouring of votes and Giano is already being opposed fairly quickly despite support from multiple arbs and checkusers. Interesting. I think the arbs are just token voting to make it look like they weren't trying to sink Giano's candidacy at all.

Oppose, sorry. I was all set to support, but Giano's refusal to accept policy on posting of private email, coupled with the appearance of grudge-bearing agains certain individuals, means I cannot have confidence in Giano maintaining the requisite level of discretion as an Arbitrator. Guy (Help!) 00:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Bit rich coming from the guy who betrayed Privatemusing, don'tcha think?

To most amusing thing is the amount of support Ryan Postlethwaite is getting. I love that Wikipedians think that people like him are suitable for running a top ten website.

Judging from the opposes, if he doesn't succeed, it will be thanks to his support for Durova. Ouch.

It's got to hurt, because Ryan did his level best to pitch the ball straight down the middle of the lane, as he usually does. Trouble here was there was no viable center - either Durova was to be desysoped or not - so his comments were seen as advocating a strong pro-Durova position dressed in apologies.

The smart money - Newyorkbrad - disapproved the block, but took no position in the RfC. Had he done so, he would have racked up a number of opposes by now no matter which side he took.

Newyorkbrad is an obvious win, probably Deskana too, it'll be interesting to see if the people rise up and throw support behind Giano. The hardliners are already coming down on him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=175376248

SlimVirgin makes it clear how much she dislikes Kelly Martin.

Gotta hand it to Jehochman:

"Less groupthink."
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=175375506

No one can call him inflexible.

This post has been edited by Proabivouac: Mon 3rd December 2007, 1:15am

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Newyorkbrad is an obvious win, probably Deskana too, it'll be interesting to see if the people rise up and throw support behind Giano. The hardliners are already coming down on him.

I think a few hardliners are going to be surprised that it is their justifications for oppose that is the reason why there is such a groundswelling of support for Giano.

I would also suggest folk take a look at Lars reasoning for support, another of the perhaps more surprising backers.

Is there beside the drama serounding him some reasons to want Giano as an arbitrator. His answers are articulate but I am wondering what does he have to offer. Just wondering.

The reason he's controversial is because he's a good article writer and editor, passionate about the project, courageous about standing up to bureaucratic bullshit, and more concerned with ethics than idiotic bureaucracy or puerile politics.

This post has been edited by Moulton: Mon 3rd December 2007, 1:56am

The reason he's controversial is because he's a good article writer and editor, passionate about the project, courageous about standing up to bureaucratic bullshit, and more concerned with ethics than idiotic bureaucracy or puerile politics.

There's the Kiss O Death, if anything is.

Jonny

Despite what the clique say I think he is polite, also he is not obnoxious And it is said he knows about editing.

To most amusing thing is the amount of support Ryan Postlethwaite is getting. I love that Wikipedians think that people like him are suitable for running a top ten website.

Judging from the opposes, if he doesn't succeed, it will be thanks to his support for Durova. Ouch.

Isn't he on the cyberstalking list? Has the membership of that list leaked?

Newyorkbrad is an obvious win, probably Deskana too, it'll be interesting to see if the people rise up and throw support behind Giano. The hardliners are already coming down on him.

If people are interested in effectively supporting Giano they need to complete the job by voting "Opposed" to most other candidates. Otherwise it is like receiving only half a vote. It is harmless to vote support for candidates that are certain to receive more votes (NYB, Deskana) but any candidates that might come close should be opposed. I believe down at Tammany Hall they call that "Plunking"."

Steward elections are also underway. Results are being tallied here.

Barely relevant side note: Danny ("the Loser") is currently garnering more "oppose" than "support" votes.

Lol! Fred Bauder has voted in opposition to Raul654, a current arbitrator. That'll be awkward.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=175384352

A ha ha ha! He's also Mercury's only supporter so far!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=175385454


This post has been edited by Miltopia: Mon 3rd December 2007, 3:06am