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post Mon 29th November 2010, 1:39am
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I like the fact that this guy has done far worse while not producing any content than I ever did and socked up the wazoo, and yet it would take a community discussion to even get the chance of an indef.

Who was backing that guy? I mean, come on, he must have something good on Sue Gardner or something!

Actually I think personality makes most of the difference.



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post Tue 30th November 2010, 6:00am
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QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 28th November 2010, 11:11pm) *


EDIT: And all the Eastern Europe types are piling in for the kill. Looks like it's game-over for Loosmark ...


All? I count only one...

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Sun 28th November 2010, 11:20pm) *

What? How soundly I had slept thinking Russavia was still banned. ohmy.gif


That one.

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I like the fact that this guy has done far worse while not producing any content than I ever did and socked up the wazoo, and yet it would take a community discussion to even get the chance of an indef.


Re: "not producing any content". Generalizations are not helpful. While not in your league, he did do some good and uncontroversial work for Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships (mostly, stubbing many dozens of footnote to a footnote but still notable ship articles).

In the ideal world, one where people care more about things like building an encyclopedia than seeing others tarred and feathered, if not outright crucified for their amusement (and justification of self-righteousness), he would have gotten his well-deserved indef (=year till standard offer appeal) site ban, yes, but WITH THE EXCEPTION that he can keep contributing to uncontroversial naval articles. This would allow the community/arbs to minitor his progress towards wiki-resocialization (and to see if he actually cares about the project enough to just limit himself to this uncontroversial area), and would also give the checkusers a continuing feed on his IP, making it easier to see if he is still socking (or not).

Sadly, such a "complicated" approach, requiring more consideration than the simple swing of a banhammer, is seemingly beyond current remedy-related frame of reference (if it ever was in it).

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post Wed 1st December 2010, 12:09am
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My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.
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post Wed 1st December 2010, 12:45am
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QUOTE(radek @ Wed 1st December 2010, 12:09am) *

My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.

supporting GeorgeWilliamHerbert??? you're a moron.
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post Wed 1st December 2010, 1:16am
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Tue 30th November 2010, 6:45pm) *

QUOTE(radek @ Wed 1st December 2010, 12:09am) *

My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.

supporting GeorgeWilliamHerbert??? you're a moron.


Well, he is the best candidate for ArbCom this year.
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QUOTE(radek @ Tue 30th November 2010, 8:16pm) *

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Tue 30th November 2010, 6:45pm) *

QUOTE(radek @ Wed 1st December 2010, 12:09am) *

My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.

supporting GeorgeWilliamHerbert??? you're a moron.


Well, he is the best candidate for ArbCom this year.


Annex. Annex. Annex.
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QUOTE(radek @ Tue 30th November 2010, 7:09pm) *

My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.


Brilliant.
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post Wed 1st December 2010, 4:10am
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QUOTE(Messedrocker @ Tue 30th November 2010, 7:18pm) *

QUOTE(radek @ Tue 30th November 2010, 7:09pm) *

My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.


Brilliant.

Yeah, it doesn't get much better than this. A couple of bits in no particular order:

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(Chase-Me-Ladies). I like the Cavalry. His late-in-the-day flanking maneuver at the Battle of Biscotti Gap opened up the enemy's left wing and set him in rout. He then brilliantly followed up this tactical victory with a vigorous pursuit, while being pursued himself. The pursuing went on and on and on, but ultimately, Cavalry caught up and the horse unbuckled brilliantly, flared his nostrils, lifted its hind legs and began to... oh wait, this is Casliber's slot. Sigh, anyway, I feel that Cavalry is the best candidate for ArbCom this year.

I like Off2riorob. I am not exaggerating when I say that here we have the Prometheus of the Encyclopedia. Where would we mortals be without this gift of fire that Off2 has bestowed upon us? Back in the caves, hiding from the dinosaurs that's where. And how many times has Off2's liver been torn out by angry Wikipedia vultures at AN/I, only to grow back again. Two times. And is it not good when one of the Titans, such as this brilliant editor, chooses to side with us, the puny flesh? Yes, it is good. But isn't Goethe's Prometheus a blasphemous bastard? Yes he was, but Goethe was into that kind of thing. And didn't Goethe... Maybe, but back to the topic. Off2riorob is the best candidate for ArbCom this year.

PhilKnight. I like Phil. He is a virtuoso of arbitration. A radiant shard of civility. He is the Santa Claus of dispute resolution. A Tooth Fairy of brilliance. An Easter Bunny of immense proportions. A Yeti of mediation. A Sasquatch of sanctions. A Turkey of praise endowment. A gamecock of spunkiness. A babe of innocence. A soothing lotion on the irritable skin of difficult Wikipedia topics. An acne medicine that has not been recalled by the surgeon, general or otherwise. An untampered with aspirin of headache relief. A blue pill for the editors that have lost their interest. A powerful enhancement for consensus. A credit card with no limit, and low fixed APR rates. A bank that is always open. And the best candidate for ArbCom this year.


So our Radek is Volunteer Marek! I like Volunteer Marek. Clearly an editor sporting broad intellect, varied interests, perspicacious sagacity, redeeming humor, and a venturesomely confident manly member that is unapologetically formidable without being grossly outsize. He has clearly produced the best satire of ArbCom WP elections to come along this year.
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post Wed 1st December 2010, 4:43am
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Wed 1st December 2010, 4:10am) *

QUOTE(Messedrocker @ Tue 30th November 2010, 7:18pm) *

QUOTE(radek @ Tue 30th November 2010, 7:09pm) *

My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.


Brilliant.

Yeah, it doesn't get much better than this. A couple of bits in no particular order:

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(Chase-Me-Ladies). I like the Cavalry. His late-in-the-day flanking maneuver at the Battle of Biscotti Gap opened up the enemy's left wing and set him in rout. He then brilliantly followed up this tactical victory with a vigorous pursuit, while being pursued himself. The pursuing went on and on and on, but ultimately, Cavalry caught up and the horse unbuckled brilliantly, flared his nostrils, lifted its hind legs and began to... oh wait, this is Casliber's slot. Sigh, anyway, I feel that Cavalry is the best candidate for ArbCom this year.

I like Off2riorob. I am not exaggerating when I say that here we have the Prometheus of the Encyclopedia. Where would we mortals be without this gift of fire that Off2 has bestowed upon us? Back in the caves, hiding from the dinosaurs that's where. And how many times has Off2's liver been torn out by angry Wikipedia vultures at AN/I, only to grow back again. Two times. And is it not good when one of the Titans, such as this brilliant editor, chooses to side with us, the puny flesh? Yes, it is good. But isn't Goethe's Prometheus a blasphemous bastard? Yes he was, but Goethe was into that kind of thing. And didn't Goethe... Maybe, but back to the topic. Off2riorob is the best candidate for ArbCom this year.

PhilKnight. I like Phil. He is a virtuoso of arbitration. A radiant shard of civility. He is the Santa Claus of dispute resolution. A Tooth Fairy of brilliance. An Easter Bunny of immense proportions. A Yeti of mediation. A Sasquatch of sanctions. A Turkey of praise endowment. A gamecock of spunkiness. A babe of innocence. A soothing lotion on the irritable skin of difficult Wikipedia topics. An acne medicine that has not been recalled by the surgeon, general or otherwise. An untampered with aspirin of headache relief. A blue pill for the editors that have lost their interest. A powerful enhancement for consensus. A credit card with no limit, and low fixed APR rates. A bank that is always open. And the best candidate for ArbCom this year.


So our Radek is Volunteer Marek! I like Volunteer Marek. Clearly an editor sporting broad intellect, varied interests, perspicacious sagacity, redeeming humor, and a venturesomely confident manly member that is unapologetically formidable without being grossly outsize. He has clearly produced the best satire of ArbCom WP elections to come along this year.


I liked the description of me, but I must admit our Radek outdid himself on Cav and Phil's. (Giano is a runner-up). This is quite good, but I'm afraid Radek is working in a rather small pool when it comes to good satire on Wikipedia tongue.gif
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post Wed 1st December 2010, 4:51am
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QUOTE(radek @ Wed 1st December 2010, 1:16am) *
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Tue 30th November 2010, 6:45pm) *
QUOTE(radek @ Wed 1st December 2010, 12:09am) *
My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.
supporting GeorgeWilliamHerbert??? you're a moron.
Well, he is the best candidate for ArbCom this year.

I guess I should have actually read your "thoughts" before commenting. Very good.
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OK, I can't be bothered going through all the usual tl;dr Q&A for the candidate.

So, someone tell me who to vote for?


So far, only Loosmark is looking good to me.
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post Wed 1st December 2010, 11:46am
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 30th November 2010, 11:10pm) *

So our Radek is Volunteer Marek! I like Volunteer Marek. Clearly an editor sporting broad intellect, varied interests, perspicacious sagacity, redeeming humor, and a venturesomely confident manly member that is unapologetically formidable without being grossly outsize. He has clearly produced the best satire of ArbCom WP elections to come along this year.

Agreed, that should be cast in bronze. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now are we taking bets on how long it will be before some nucklehead slaps {{satire}} on it (because they want to show everyone that it's satire), or better yet tries to get it deleted? ermm.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Wed 1st December 2010, 7:46am) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 30th November 2010, 11:10pm) *

So our Radek is Volunteer Marek! I like Volunteer Marek. Clearly an editor sporting broad intellect, varied interests, perspicacious sagacity, redeeming humor, and a venturesomely confident manly member that is unapologetically formidable without being grossly outsize. He has clearly produced the best satire of ArbCom WP elections to come along this year.

Agreed, that should be cast in bronze. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now are we taking bets on how long it will be before some nucklehead slaps {{satire}} on it (because they want to show everyone that it's satire), or better yet tries to get it deleted? ermm.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Wait? That was satire? Is THAT why it's not in the big blue box linking to all the guides? I was wondering about that. It seemed a bit ... hagiographic... but hey, to each his own. We can't all be downers, although I note someone else is now supporting less candidates than I am.

Aside, now I'm wondering if BF was busting or if he/she is actually one of the candidates. but you know me, easily taken in.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 30th November 2010, 10:00pm) *

Annex. Annex. Annex.

No. No. and No. (in that order)

An aside: It's almost too bad I'm not crazy enough to run myself.... I have the perfect slogan this year!

"Vote for Lar 2.0 ... new and improved, now(1) with 100%(2) less appendix!"


1 - technically this was not true at the start of the campaign but it is now!

2 - hopefully... there is some question about that actually... it may only be 97% or so, which would be a problem.... we'll see
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Wait? That was satire? Is THAT why it's not in the big blue box linking to all the guides? I was wondering about that. It seemed a bit ... hagiographic... but hey, to each his own. We can't all be downers, although I note someone else is now supporting less candidates than I am.

Aside, now I'm wondering if BF was busting or if he/she is actually one of the candidates. but you know me, easily taken in.


Fixed. And while I'm there, what the hey does "written responsibly" mean in this context? Some of these guides appear to me to be written quite irresponsibly - they disagree with mine! Nevermind the usual unobservability/verifiability of "in good faith". Since at least some of the other guides might just possibly be an exercise in butt kissing, I just thought I'd do it right.

(and thanks all)
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Balloonman is now out - with another whimper in terms of communications (follow top link). Balloonman - the self-confessed Republican voter who idly boasts about his 'mediation' on the Gore Effect, Palestine and the Tea Party - and of having "30" barnstars and awards. Buffoonman, if you are reading - you a total prick.

Is this now not a total farce? With all those votes already made? And people are still answering their initial questions - with hundreds having voted. There are simply no rules put in place to help the voting peasants at all. It's almost like Wikimedia instinctively hate democracy so much they cannot bear performing it in any kind of professional way. All they care about is who they are aligning with, via their secret channels. Why make it a professional poll?

This standing-down now makes the vote a 'choice' of 19 candidates for the 12 available positions. People will be kicking themselves that they haven't stood. OK, many of the more popular cabal players are clearly in the bag (there is no way Sir Fozzie isn't getting re-elected, etc) - but there is clearly a space (or two) for somebody different now. Few conservatives will have the guts not to at least pretend to support Iridescent, and GiacomoReturned must now stand a real chance now too. And the oddball FT2.

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There are simply no rules put in place to help the voting peasants at all.


That may be because the posts being elected are utterly irrelevant to the Wikimedia Foundation and its money-scamming operation.
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There are simply no rules put in place to help the voting peasants at all.


That may be because the posts being elected are utterly irrelevant to the Wikimedia Foundation and its money-scamming operation.


The peasants are held with utter contempt for sure, but the motivation is to empire-build for power and for profit - not just to money-scam. You do tend to make them look like small time crooks. Jimbo aspires to so much more than that.

The arbcom posts are utterly annoying to the WMF for sure, but not irrelevant. The WMF is too tied up with WP performance. They don't want completed articles, or even especially good ones, but are still as a business reliant on donation money, and so they do need to keep certain parties happy. Like all aspiring corporations, they are also incredibly image conscious, and bad press will not just bug them, but hinder them.

The Arbitration committee is the main reason they give for keeping their shoal of in-breeding admin free from any realistic threat of unemployment. These bent admin and admin-wannabees aspire to arbcom importance and status, and so they take the whip positions on all the threatening proposals for change - such as bringing in admin terms, or the 'community ban' of certain critical editors. And interweaving it all you have the animal-instinctive pov deals and the various cabals.

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Out of curiosity, does it really matter if a sitting arb is underage? --RegentsPark (talk) 17:04, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...2010/Candidates


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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 2nd December 2010, 1:01pm) *

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Out of curiosity, does it really matter if a sitting arb is underage? --RegentsPark (talk) 17:04, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...2010/Candidates



Has RegentsPark been hanging out with Tyciol? blink.gif

QUOTE(Lar @ Wed 1st December 2010, 7:11am) *
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2 - hopefully... there is some question about that actually... it may only be 97% or so, which would be a problem.... we'll see[/size]


Damn...and all of that money ready to be inherited, too! I better get myself set up as Lar's son-in-law before he kicks the bucket! unsure.gif
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