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> FT2 vs. SlimVirgin, The end is near!
Herschelkrustofsky
post Thu 27th November 2008, 3:58pm
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 27th November 2008, 3:53am) *

My favorite method of therapeutic healing is producing a well-crafted comic opera, complete with atrocious song parodies.

Failing that, I'll settle for an easily overlooked post on W-R that merely muses about the idea.
You are finally learning, Grasshopper.
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post Thu 27th November 2008, 4:06pm
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So, any bets who and when someone starts a RFC against FT2 on this same issue?
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post Thu 27th November 2008, 4:23pm
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QUOTE(Cedric @ Thu 27th November 2008, 3:48pm) *

I think the only thing missing from this dramarama is for Jimbo to come crashing into this, in his usual rogue elephant style, and reverse all sanctions against Stroynaya Deva. Unfortunately, it does not look as this will happen; there is some reason to believe she is no longer in favor in the court of the God-King. Pity. She was so good at delivering "teh dramahz".

I'm hoping for SlimVirgin to launch into a tirade against the Arbcom - Jimbo to crash into the fray and denounce her in defense of his elected protégés - and for Slim to turn on Jimbo - resulting in a massive public shoot-out between Slim and Jimbo where the two of them reveal much confidential material they had been hushing up for years as weapons - which hits the blogosphere and then the media - which causes much more drama and dissatisfaction on WP - bringing WR new readers and productive angry members who then go forth and evangelize the problems of Wikipedia to a wider audience - resulting in Wikipedia becoming even more of an internet joke and pariah as people open their eyes to the widespread problems.

Second best option would be a radical reform of all of Wikipedia's failed processes.
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post Thu 27th November 2008, 6:39pm
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I was amused to see Jayjg arriving at the party only after the decision sealing SV's fate was all but made and far too late for his words of wisdom to have any influence (assuming anyone in any position of authority at Wikipedia still pays attention to what Jayjg has to say)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=254363605

And even then, the best he can come up with as an alternative is the remedy in Lance's case which was a topical ban - how that would be applicable in SV's case is an open question.

So a half hearted, and belated, intervention by Jayjg on SV's behalf. Just enough for him to be able to tell her that he tried.
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post Thu 27th November 2008, 7:13pm
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Here we go.

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18:51, 27 November 2008 Spacebirdy (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:SlimVirgin@enwiki from Sysops to (none) ‎ (per srp and en:Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Motion:_re_SlimVirgin#SlimVirgin_desysopped)


There is mor dramahz here that the people playing at dispute resolution are trying to avoid. The story will be told though. smiley.gif
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post Fri 28th November 2008, 11:56am
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Jayjg comes a day late and a penny short but with a barnstar in hand to make it all better. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=254530849
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post Fri 28th November 2008, 4:14pm
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In previous incidents with SV (like when she retired and such), many flocked to her talk page and worshipped her. Now, I am actually pleasantly surprised by the lack of worshipping, a sure sign that she has lost a lot of support in the community.
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post Fri 28th November 2008, 4:30pm
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QUOTE(EuroSceptic @ Fri 28th November 2008, 10:14am) *

In previous incidents with SV (like when she retired and such), many flocked to her talk page and worshipped her. Now, I am actually pleasantly surprised by the lack of worshipping, a sure sign that she has lost a lot of support in the community.

Meh. Such is the normal fate of major courtiers who go out of favor. Why lick the boot if its wearer can get nothing done for you?
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post Fri 28th November 2008, 4:50pm
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SlimVirgin has been a colossal negative for Wikipedia on many fronts. Most notably by leading the culture of capricious bullying that permeates the place. Slim represents the worst of the manipulative Game-Players who came to rule the site, during Wikipedia's evolution into a ubiquitous mainstream website 2005-7. Thus sabotaging any vestiges of the Larry Sanger-style conscientious encyclopedia that may have still lingered.

Anyone shedding tears over this, wrongly believing that Slim represents some "voice of the righteous", should just consult the archives.

A classic example of bad behavior was when Slim came up against the Featured Article folks, especially Sandy Georgia. When Slim didn't get her way on some Featured Article issue, she maliciously unblocked a genuinely insane stalker - who was harassing Sandy on the mistaken belief that Sandy was some rival from the past. This was an act of pure calculated revenge on the part of Slim, an attempt to undermine SandyGeorgia and hence destabilize the Featured Article process.

Such acts are everywhere. And they are a disgrace.
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post Fri 28th November 2008, 8:01pm
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QUOTE(Lar @ Thu 27th November 2008, 3:13pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 27th November 2008, 9:43am) *

QUOTE(Cla68 @ Mon 24th November 2008, 11:59pm) *

FT2 is obviously flailing away at trying to establish ArbCom as a legitimate, effective governance body in Wikipedia.


Unless you are referring to a certain medieval apparatus I assume you mean "failing".

"Flailing away" is a perfectly acceptable usage, meaning to agitatedly but ineffectively try to affect some change.


Let's ignore the dungeon weaponry for a bit, it was probably in poor taste. What I meant is that the changes taking place do not fit the previous description, but rather that of a kangaroo court.

But wait: kangaroos and humans are not so different in many ways...
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post Sun 30th November 2008, 10:32pm
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QUOTE(JohnA @ Sun 30th November 2008, 1:09pm) *

I was going to comment but Kato got in before me. B`

QUOTE(Kato @ Fri 28th November 2008, 4:50pm) *

SlimVirgin has been a colossal negative for Wikipedia on many fronts. Most notably by leading the culture of capricious bullying that permeates the place. Slim represents the worst of the manipulative Game-Players who came to rule the site, during Wikipedia's evolution into a ubiquitous mainstream website 2005-7. Thus sabotaging any vestiges of the Larry Sanger-style conscientious encyclopedia that may have still lingered.

Anyone shedding tears over this, wrongly believing that Slim represents some "voice of the righteous", should just consult the archives.

A classic example of bad behavior was when Slim came up against the Featured Article folks, especially Sandy Georgia. When Slim didn't get her way on some Featured Article issue, she maliciously unblocked a genuinely insane stalker - who was harassing Sandy on the mistaken belief that Sandy was some rival from the past. This was an act of pure calculated revenge on the part of Slim, an attempt to undermine SandyGeorgia and hence destabilize the Featured Article process.

Such acts are everywhere. And they are a disgrace.


Somebody needs to send this to Doc glascow, who has made Slim's recent punishment out to be some herioc combo of Douglas MacAurthur, Antigone, Guenevere, and Billy Budd.
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post Sat 6th December 2008, 9:10pm
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She got what she deserved finally. Too bad it was only 6 months. Who actually dysysopped SV?

Ok I got it, it was Spacebirdy
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...&year=&month=-1

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post Sun 7th December 2008, 11:46pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 30th November 2008, 10:32pm) *

Somebody needs to send this to Doc glascow, who has made Slim's recent punishment out to be some herioc combo of Douglas MacAurthur, Antigone, Guenevere, and Billy Budd.


you mean the same Doc Glasgow that unblocked Mantanmoreland in the Spring of 08, despite his Samiharris charade being exposed as his latest foray in blatanlty abusive MM-LastExit-Tomstoner sockpuppetry that was exposed and let live after 2006? Oh yeah, that Doc Glasgow.

just another putz with no spine.

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post Mon 8th December 2008, 2:37am
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QUOTE(Fone @ Sat 6th December 2008, 1:10pm) *

She got what she deserved finally. Too bad it was only 6 months. Who actually dysysopped SV?

Ok I got it, it was Spacebirdy
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...&year=&month=-1

Birdy's just another steward and doesn't have any say in the matter whatsoever. All they do is evaluate and carry out cross-wiki requests. Just FYI.
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post Mon 15th December 2008, 6:28am
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Yup I know that, still wanted to know.
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post Mon 22nd December 2008, 3:28am
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QUOTE(Kato @ Fri 28th November 2008, 4:50pm) *

she maliciously unblocked a genuinely insane stalker - who was harassing Sandy on the mistaken belief that Sandy was some rival from the past.


Now Kato...you KNOW that is simply a whopping great fib aimed at deriving warn fuzzies (for you) from maligning a person you know nothing about (aka me). You do know that nice people don't behave that way?

(Somey baby, did the BAD ZERAEPH hit the nail so accurately on the head that you had to delete two whole pages of posts to hide it? confused.gif

Poor baby... wink.gif )

But every cloud has a silver lining...any decent person who saw that deletion will easily figure out that this whole board is more perfidious than it claims Wikipedia is ,and high tail it off elsewhere.

*blowing kiss*

GOOD

Merry Christmas, Baby...

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post Mon 22nd December 2008, 3:52pm
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QUOTE(Zeraeph @ Sun 21st December 2008, 7:28pm) *

(Somey baby, did the BAD ZERAEPH hit the nail so accurately on the head that you had to delete two whole pages of posts to hide it? confused.gif
Moderator's note: My bad. I split the off-topic material into a thread of its own, and forgot to leave a notice on this one. Anyone who wants to carry on about Zeraeph et al. should proceed to this thread.
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