My email to SlimVirgin, my guess is that nothing will happen Options

[Daniel Brandt]

slimvirgin AT gmail.com
cc: info AT wikimedia.org
December 24, 2006

Dear Sarah:

I am looking for a Florida-based attorney to negotiate with the Wikimedia Foundation to take down my biography. If this fails, I plan to file an invasion-of-privacy lawsuit against the Foundation. Considering the fact that all the Talk pages are also made available to the search engines, I may include a defamation-of-character complaint in the suit. My main interest in litigation is to establish in a Florida court that Section 230 of the U.S. Communications Decency Act does not provide immunity to the Foundation, due to the fact that the Foundation's entire structure is designed to moderate the content on Wikipedia. I will argue that because of this, the Foundation functions as a publisher rather than a service provider. Only service providers are immune under Section 230.

I appreciate the fact that you supported my request to delete the article in October 2005, after we worked on it for a week and were unable to reach agreement. You warned me that you lacked the power to make the deletion stick, if some other administrators disagreed. This is exactly what happened.

I also appreciate your support of Linuxbeak's effort in December 2005 to move the content into other relevant articles on Wikipedia, so that most of the content would still exist, but not be featured in one Wikipedia article under my name. This effort was one that Linuxbeak and I agreed to at the time, but which failed due to a lack of support. I deleted hivemind.html as Linuxbeak made his effort, but then restored it when his effort failed. As you can see, the hivemind.html page is much larger now and also has small photos of most of the perpetrators.

The last meaningful AfD on my bio was concluded on April 9, 2006. Now I am asking you to initiate another AfD. This is something only a major administrator can do, because minor administrators will intervene on the grounds of "Speedy Keep."

I believe that one last meaningful AfD for my biography is warranted before this issue escalates further, and I hope you agree with me. If the article gets deleted, I will take down the hivemind.html page on www.wikipedia-watch.org (but not the hive2.html page), and will also take down the findchat.html page, the 1,545 chat log files that are linked from there, and the chat search engine.


Thank you,
Daniel Brandt

[Daniel Brandt]

Anthere says at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/found...ary/027499.html

I'll tell you three secrets, just do not repeat them. First, we are beginning to oil the wheels to find someone to be the new CTO in the long run. Second, Mark, Brion etc... pretty much manage their own business between themselves well. By large, Tim reports to Brion right now, and all is well. Third, Brion is not a report man... he is Brion. On the tech side, the most urgent things we can be facing in the next three months really, are much more related to hardware, hosting, network, insurance, contracts... in large part Mark realm (along with JeLuF, Domas, Rob etc...). [emphasis added]

From the context it seems that Anthere is more concerned with property insurance for their servers. What's the problem here? Do they expect God to smite their servers with a lightening bolt? I'm sure this won't happen, because God must realize by now that this would merely generate a negative biography on Himself, written by anonymous teenagers.

They don't need property insurance. What they really need is liability insurance for the Foundation and its officers and directors. I always thought one of the main duties of a general counsel was to keep the Foundation and its directors and officers from getting sued. If that's true, Brad hasn't been doing his job. He has never communicated with me in any sort of effort to negotiate my objections to Wikipedia.

[Somey]

I always thought one of the main duties of a general counsel was to keep the Foundation and its directors and officers from getting sued. If that's true, Brad hasn't been doing his job.

Well, that's probably because he's been the Interim Executive Director for several months - wearing all those hats must've been difficult. Now that he's back to concentrating exclusively on his role as General Counsel, he'll be able to go back to working full-time on failing to keep the Foundation and its directors and officers from getting sued.

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[nobs]

Well the saga continues. And no conspiracy would be genuine unless Allen Dullas and the Bush family fortune were somehow involved.

Ken Myers, aka User:KSM10 is the author of Wikimmunity: Fitting the Communications Decency Act to Wikipedia, presented at the August 2006 Wikimania conference, and appears to be an influentional take on the various legal issues regarding Wikipedia and Sec 230. Myers bio says he "is a recent graduate of Harvard Law School and will be joining Sullivan & Cromwell New York as an associate in the fall (of 2006)."

Who is Sullivan & Cromwell? Prescott Bush and Union Banking were clients of Allen Dullas and Sullivan & Cromwell. Wikipedia is now the source for the information how the Bush family fortune being derived from Nazi's originated with a group aligned with Holocaust denial. (Wikien-1)

So as the Foundation establishes the position of General Counsel and builds the Legal Department, it's now patently obvious they are looking to advice from an associate of the law firm which, according to John Loftus, participated in money laundering for the Nazi's.

Where will all end?

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[Somey]

...it's now patently obvious they are looking to advice from an associate of the law firm which, according to John Loftus, participated in....

There's no evidence for this, Nobs. Just because someone speaks at Wikimania and writes a paper on Section 230 doesn't mean the foundation is somehow forming a relationship with the law firm that just hired that same guy, right out of school, after the fact. If you can find something that suggests this, even vaguely, then by all means let us know - but without something to back this up, it's just the usual conspiracy-theory speculative blah-blah-blah.

I'd say you should know better, but I think we're clearly past that point now...! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

[nobs]

...it's now patently obvious they are looking to advice from an associate of the law firm which, according to John Loftus, participated in....

There's no evidence for this, Nobs. Just because someone speaks at Wikimania and writes a paper on Section 230 doesn't mean the foundation is somehow forming a relationship with the law firm that just hired that same guy, right out of school, after the fact. If you can find something that suggests this, even vaguely, then by all means let us know...

Well let's see what John Loftus says about Sullivan & Cromwell (per WP:V):

"Some Americans were just bigots and made their connections to Germany through Allen Dulles's firm of Sullivan and Cromwell because they supported Fascism. The Dulles brothers, who were in it for profit more than ideology, arranged American investments in Nazi Germany in the 1930s to ensure that their clients did well out of the German economic recovery. . . .

"Sullivan & Cromwell was not the only firm engaged in funding Germany....

"...Instead of divesting the Nazi money," continue the authors, "Bush hired a lawyer to hide the assets. The lawyer he hired had considerable expertise in such underhanded schemes. It was Allen Dulles. According to Dulles's client list at Sullivan & Cromwell, his first relationship with Brown Brothers, Harriman...

Source: John Loftus, Former Federal Prosecutor John Loftus confirms the Bush-Nazi scandal, October 31. 2003.

There is more information about Sullivan & Cromwell in John Loftus and Mark Aarons, The Secret War Against the Jews, St. Martin's Press (1994). None of this stuff for NPOV purposes, as best I can discern, is in the wiki entry on Sullivan & Cromwell.

Now, as to Ken Myers relationship to the Foundation Legal Department, that is currently a matter under review....

Wiki Research Bibliography
http://bibliography.wikimedia.de/index.php...id=196&catId=20


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