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post Thu 26th February 2009, 8:51am
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 26th February 2009, 7:47am) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 25th February 2009, 11:27pm) *

He does seem like quite a decent fellow

Seemed.

Decent people get frustrated too. Here's another case of user burnout, while wikipediots do nothing about the bullying from one of their admins.

This is the consequence of behaviour discussed in this thread - wikipedia puts its unpaid labourers into a pressure cooker, then shrugs off responsibility when the stress starts to show.
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 2:05pm
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QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Thu 26th February 2009, 3:51am) *

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QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 25th February 2009, 11:27pm) *

He does seem like quite a decent fellow

Seemed.

Decent people get frustrated too. Here's another case of user burnout, while wikipediots do nothing about the bullying from one of their admins.

This is the consequence of behaviour discussed in this thread - wikipedia puts its unpaid labourers into a pressure cooker, then shrugs off responsibility when the stress starts to show.


RHMED is one of the resident British malcontents with problems telling the difference between irony and rudeness -- his attempts to be wry never quite worked and he often wound up coming across as sour, sarcastic and mean-spirited. Not being an admin, he was never able to get away with this silly behavior and was, thus, the subject of harassment (as we see today). He also lacked admin clique protection that shields other perennial big mouths -- fellow Brit Malleus Flatulence (or whatever the fuck his name is) does the same shtick but is protected by the admin Iridescent, who also falls into the category of the obnoxious British boors (it must be something in the water over there).

That being said, the RHMED murder looks like a Wiki who's who of tool-possessing assholes. We have Barry Bonds-worthy banhammer swings from the likes of Xeno, Tznkai, Protonk, Aitas, Kevin -- to paraphrase Baha Men, who let the jerks out?

However, barnstars are in order for Wehwalt (perhaps the one admin with a brain, heart and courage) and Eric Barbour (my new hero) for bringing a sense of maturity and sincerity to this mess. And a cheer to Smash the State for his input at WP:AN. evilgrin.gif

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post Thu 26th February 2009, 3:47pm
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QUOTE(SmashTheState @ Thu 26th February 2009, 12:15am) *

Yeah, I noticed that:

Off-wiki harassment by User:EricBarbour

I just saw this edit from User:EricBarbour at RMHED's talk page inviting RMHED to participate in a off-wiki discussion here [link to this thread]. In this discussion User:EricBarbour wrote: “(Starting to get the feeling that Aitias IS, in fact, an arsehole....)”. I won't take action here myself, but nevertheless I'd like to ask whether this kind of off-wiki harassment is deemed acceptable. — Aitias // discussion 04:55, 26 February 2009


Hahaha. Someone's a little sensitive.

This sort of meltdown is what I saw in my own future. I parted before I popped my top; otherwise, I would have been cussing people out left and right.

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RHMED [...] also lacked admin clique protection that shields other perennial big mouths -- fellow Brit Malleus Flatulence (or whatever the fuck his name is) does the same shtick but is protected by the admin Iridescent, who also falls into the category of the obnoxious British boors (it must be something in the water over there).

Fatuorum, dipstick. Some people just deserve some protection. He's one of them. Anyway, good call on categorizing Eva Destruction as an "obnoxious British boor". You really enjoy talking out of your ass don't you?

Some people on the project really have good intentions and do their best to bring about positive change -- like improving the handling of BLPs, provoking change in the way unruly admins are handled and in the RFA process, etc, etc -- while also doing great content work. It's practically impossible to actually see any change in the broken areas of the project, but at least they put in effort. You apparently lump these people in a category of "obnoxious British boors". Fascinating.
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 4:06pm
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Fatuorum, dipstick. Some people just deserve some protection. He's one of them. Anyway, good call on categorizing Eva Destruction as an "obnoxious British boor". You really enjoy talking out of your ass don't you?


"Dipstick"? "Talking out of your ass"? Hey, did Tanthalas39 hack Lara's account? fear.gif Doesn't matter -- when a Hot Chili Mama like Lara wants to dis me, I'll take the abuse and come back for seconds. evilgrin.gif
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 5:16pm
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Definitely one of the most entertaining burnouts so far this year, though I get the impression that it was mostly planned in the sense that he clearly wanted out of that shithole and decided to make it as messy as possible. Good for him.

Of course there always has to be an arsehole in these situations, so step forward Aitias (T-C-L-K-R-D) ! Your 15 minutes has begun; enjoy the ride. You weasly little fuckwit. No offence. I think his much-mentioned plea on AN/I is a classic and is deserving of placement in some kind of "Wikipedia's Greatest Weasly Hits" category.

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RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks.

Wonderful. He's a genuine wanker, and obviously completely oblivious to the fact. Heh!
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 5:34pm
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QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Thu 26th February 2009, 5:16pm) *

Definitely one of the most entertaining burnouts so far this year, though I get the impression that it was mostly planned in the sense that he clearly wanted out of that shithole and decided to make it as messy as possible. Good for him.

Of course there always has to be an arsehole in these situations, so step forward Aitias (T-C-L-K-R-D) ! Your 15 minutes has begun; enjoy the ride. You weasly little fuckwit. No offence. I think his much-mentioned plea on AN/I is a classic and is deserving of placement in some kind of "Wikipedia's Greatest Weasly Hits" category.

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RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks.

Wonderful. He's a genuine wanker, and obviously completely oblivious to the fact. Heh!


A wakner, you mean.
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 5:57pm
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That's as maybe, but could someone stuff a cork in the little bugger, please? HalfShadow 04:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

"Stuff a cork in the little bugger"? Could you be more homophobic, please? Maybe if you called him a knob-gobbling fudgepacker you could be a bit more offensive. -- SmashTheState (talk) 04:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Possibly. But since you're only here to tell us how badly we're screwing up, your opinion doesn't hold much water, so... HalfShadow

Please refrain from posting things which do nothing but to stir up drama. If you feel that halfshadow's affectation was homophobic, take it up with him on his talk page. And half, don't egg him on. Protonk (talk) 04:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 7:59pm
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Idea for new tactic.

Support the inane ideas of people like Aitias wherever possible. Encourage them into committing further atrocities. Drive every half-decent editor of the 'project'. Watch Wikipedia self-destruct.
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 8:10pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 2:59pm) *

Idea for new tactic.

Support the inane ideas of people like Aitias wherever possible. Encourage them into committing further atrocities. Drive every half-decent editor of the 'project'. Watch Wikipedia self-destruct.


Not new. That's precisely the tactic Che Guevara most often employed. With a relatively tiny but highly mobile guerilla force, he would make small, lightning-fast raids against military targets and then vanish, denying the enemy a target to respond. By doing this repeatedly he would goad the State into ever greater and more repressive reprisals against its own citizens until they could tolerate it no longer, at which point Che was there to provide them with guns and training.
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 8:17pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 26th February 2009, 2:05pm) *

[blah, blah, blah]

Just out of interest, when have I ever "protected" Malleus? And since when have I been British? (I'll concede the "obnoxious boor" if you like.)
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 8:25pm
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QUOTE(SmashTheState @ Thu 26th February 2009, 3:10pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 2:59pm) *

Idea for new tactic.

Support the inane ideas of people like Aitias wherever possible. Encourage them into committing further atrocities. Drive every half-decent editor of the 'project'. Watch Wikipedia self-destruct.


Not new. That's precisely the tactic Che Guevara most often employed. With a relatively tiny but highly mobile guerilla force, he would make small, lightning-fast raids against military targets and then vanish, denying the enemy a target to respond. By doing this repeatedly he would goad the State into ever greater and more repressive reprisals against its own citizens until they could tolerate it no longer, at which point Che was there to provide them with guns and training.


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post Thu 26th February 2009, 10:35pm
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Ooh! Now, this is funny!

Blog material!! And I just loooove how Protonk pretended to "calm the waters", whilst
taking a backhanded swipe at me.

If a turd drips in the wiki-forest, does it make a sound?
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 10:50pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 12:57pm) *

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That's as maybe, but could someone stuff a cork in the little bugger, please? HalfShadow 04:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

"Stuff a cork in the little bugger"? Could you be more homophobic, please? Maybe if you called him a knob-gobbling fudgepacker you could be a bit more offensive. -- SmashTheState (talk) 04:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


What was that in response to that it's taken as homophobic? I read it to mean "shut him up".

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Ooh! Now, this is funny!

Blog material!! And I just loooove how Protonk pretended to "calm the waters", whilst
taking a backhanded swipe at me.

If a turd drips in the wiki-forest, does it make a sound?

Haha. And now Ottava is there to post a disclaimer about Alison's participation here. Someone should note that he's banned from this site (right?), which might also cause his comments to be a bit biased.
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post Thu 26th February 2009, 11:03pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 26th February 2009, 3:35pm) *

Ooh! Now, this is funny!

Blog material!! And I just loooove how Protonk pretended to "calm the waters", whilst
taking a backhanded swipe at me.

If a turd drips in the wiki-forest, does it make a sound?

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Ottava - stop stirring trouble. I'm not a 'prominent member' of Wikipedia Review - I'm a regular poster there. Unlike you, who got banned from there. Ooops - disclosure! smile.gif And again, what Eric said on there cannot be construed as 'harassment', at best, it's a direct observation, at worst, an offensive epithet. Time to move on and let it go - Alison ❤ 22:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Can we not escalate this entire mess any further, before we start seeing meltdowns? rootology ©(T) 05:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Is Eric Barbour's statement verifiable? Wikipedia has strict conditions for verifiability. Richard Hock (talk) 11:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

That's not even original, that's just borrowed from what they were saying at WR. At least write your own material, dude!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

What's WR? Richard Hock (talk) 12:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Wrathful Rantings [pipelink to WP article on WR]; a website chock a block with generators and purveyors of hot air and the rare quite funny joke (some of whom are not WP admins, or even editors). LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


Our feelings are hurt. I think quite funny jokes are more than rare on WR, LessHorrid. Not quite up to WP standards, but we try harder.

Of course, LH, not wanting to stir up trouble, failed to mention he posts here, also. Being pounced on by Ottava would not be a quite funny thing. No, not at all. laugh.gif laugh.gif At least not if you're LessHorrid. happy.gif
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This kind of tattling is what I dealt with when I worked with third graders today.
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Calling me an arsehole
RMHED just called me an arsehole. Could someone please extend the block accordingly? Thanks.

Bailiff! Whack his pee-pee.
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 26th February 2009, 5:34pm) *
QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Thu 26th February 2009, 5:16pm) *
Wonderful. He's a genuine wanker, and obviously completely oblivious to the fact. Heh!
A wakner, you mean.

I can go with that. An asbotule, tatol wakner.

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Thu 26th February 2009, 10:50pm) *
Haha. And now Ottava is there to post a disclaimer about Alison's participation here.

Understatement mode ON That Octopus Reamer guy appears to be rather anal. Understatement mode OFF
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This is excellent news. This might be of interest to some.
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post Fri 27th February 2009, 4:22pm
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Thu 26th February 2009, 4:50pm) *
Haha. And now Ottava is there to post a disclaimer about Alison's participation here. Someone should note that he's banned from this site (right?), which might also cause his comments to be a bit biased.

Just for the record, Ottava rima (T-C-L-K-R-D) was one of the worst and most obnoxious right-wing hate-mongers we've ever had to deal with here, to the point where I (and one or two others) became convinced he was faking the whole thing just to amuse himself at our expense. But for him to call us "hateful" is like... oh dear, I don't think there's even an analogy for that one! wacko.gif

He's a good example of everything that's wrong (and hateful) with Wikipedia and its sister projects. He's also a liar, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that he's also an Encyclopedia Dramatica admin.
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Ottava rima (T-C-L-K-R-D) [...] was faking the whole thing just to amuse himself at our expense. [...] I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that he's also an Encyclopedia Dramatica admin.

Having spoken to him since his ban from here, I believe the former to be true, and I would not be surprised to find the latter to also be true.
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