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[KaySieverding]

From pro se representation in the United States:

The current code of conduct for United States Judges requires "A judge should accord to every person who is legally interested in a proceeding, or the person's lawyer full right to be heard according to law". <ref>http://www.uscourts.gov/guide/vol2/ch1.cfm</ref> <ref>http://www.uscourts.gov/library/Current_Code_with_Markup_03-03-08.pdf</ref> On March 17, 2009, a new code, going into effect on July 1, 2009, was announced requiring "A judge should accord to every person who has a legal interest in a proceeding, and that person’s lawyer, the full right to be heard according to law." <ref>http://www.uscourts.gov/library/codeOfConduct/Revised_Code_Effective_July-01-09.pdf</ref> The wording was changed from a person "or" their lawyer to a person "and" their lawyer.

[[William Marbury]] was appointed as a judge before there were any U.S. law schools or licensing of lawyers. His appointment was cancelled so he successfully sued President Madison. ''[[Marbury v. Madison]]'' solidified the United States' system of checks and balances and gave the judicial branch equal power with the executive and legislative branches. <ref>"The Thomas Jefferson Administrations". Presidential Administration Profiles for Students. Online Edition. Gale Group, 2002. Page 3.</ref>


[[William Penn]] represented himself successfully following his 1670 arrest with William Meade. Penn was accused of preaching before a gathering in the street, which Penn had deliberately provoked in order to test the validity of the new law against assembly. Penn pleaded for his right to see a copy of the charges laid against him and the laws he had supposedly broken, but the judge (the Lord Mayor of London) refused — even though this right was guaranteed by the law. The judge directed the jury to come to a verdict without hearing the defense.<ref>Hans Fantel, "William Penn: Apostle of Dissent," William Morrow & Co., New York, 1974, p.6, ISBN 0-688-00310-9 pp. 117-120.</ref> When invited by the judge to reconsider their verdict and to select a new foreman, the members of the jury refused, and were sent to a cell over several nights to mull over their decision. The Lord Mayor then told the jury, "You shall go together and bring in another verdict, or you shall starve". The judge had Penn sent to Newgate prison (on a charge of contempt of court). The full jury followed him, and the jury members were fined the equivalent of a year's wages each. <ref>Fantel, p. 124</ref><ref>Bonamy Dobrée, "William Penn: Quaker and Pioneer," Houghton Mifflin Co., 1932, New York, p. 71.</ref>The members of the jury, fighting their case from prison, managed to win the right for all English juries to be free from the control of judges. This case was one of the more important trials that shaped the future concept of American freedom (see [[Jury nullification]]) and was a victory for the use of the writ of [[habeas corpus]] as a means of freeing those unlawfully detained.

From Steamboat Springs CO

[[Kevin Bennett]] former city council president, served time for interstate transportation of hashish <ref> http://www.exploresteamboat.com/news/2009/...financing_issue </ref>

In June 2008, a long term resident named David Engle burned to death in a unit built in the form of a single car garage. The building had no occupancy permit but had been occupied for 20 years and changed ownership three times. It was painted turquoise and purple and was one block from the county building and the offices of the combined city county building department. It was not up to code. The local newspaper quoted the assessor as saying that there are many illegal buildings and enforcement of the regulations is lax.<ref>"The Steamboat Pilot & Today Fire death questions linger" </ref> In its meeting after Engle's death, former city council member Kathy Connell suggested a "freeze" on talking to the press so that staff does not 'paint targets on themselves'<ref>http://steamboatsprings.net/sites/default/files/2008/07/01/07-01-2008-ccmn.pdf</ref>
In 2000, after a lawsuit, a city council member said "I don't think we need greater stringency in the code. I think we need greater stringency in terms of having the conditions be met". A city planning employee said "We've already been instructed by the city attorney to take a much closer look at building permits." <ref>Avi Salzman "City takes precautions after suit is dismissed" http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2000/no...ns/</ref>

Senior City Planner Jonathan Spence said "“We’ve been pretty firm with all the developers on water body setbacks,” <ref>Tom Ross "Yacht Club seeks rooftop deck" Steamboat Pilot 10/17/08 http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2008/oc...ck/</ref>
Planning allowed a 20 foot variance on a 50 foot waterfront setback requirement because a building was added to a 1941 detached garage. <ref>Brandon Gee "Rollingstone condos receive nod of approval" Steamboat Pilot & Today, 2/27/09, http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2009/fe...al/</ref>

Kevin Bennett served on the City Council from 1993 to 2001. He was council president for the last seven years of his term. <ref>"Kevin Bennett: Council planning poorly for future" Steamboat Pilot and Today http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2006/ju...ennett_council/ </ref> In 2000, Bennetts' neighbor Kay Sieverding took him to court to get an injunction related to construction on a shed converting it to a free standing residence saying "They have removed the floor, cut holes for windows and doors, are expanding it south, and according to Wendie Schulenburg, are adding plumbing and cooking facilities as they turn it from a nonconforming garage into an illegal dwelling unit," and related to construction of another freestanding building "I do not object to the first floor of your garage, with the office reception area and bathroom. I do object to the second floor because it is over the allowed 10 percent of (your) basic primary structure, which is only about 2,160 square feet therefore you are only allowed 216 square feet." <ref>Tom Ross "City Council president, neighbor going to court" Steamboat Pilot 7/26/2000 http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2000/ju...nt/</ref> Sandy Horner, an attorney representing the Bennetts, said his clients were prepared to show they have done everything required of them by the building department and the planning department. Horner cited the city's home rule charter which gives it "exclusive jurisdiction" over its own ordinances. Horner was able to persuade the judge there is a substantial difference between the city going to District Court to seek to defend and enforce its development code, and a private resident going to court in an attempt to enforce the code. <ref>Tom Ross "Case against council president dismissed" Steamboat Pilot & Today 7/27/2000 http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2000/ju...il/</ref>

Bennetts' year 2000 construction buildings are not on the Routt County tax assessor's list. The only building on Bennetts' property at Princeton Ave listed on the property tax rolls was built in 1950, is in 1970 condition, and has total building area including garage and basement of less than 2,400 square feet. <ref>http://www.co.routt.co.us/assessor.html</ref> City Planning Director Wendie Schulenburg testified that the Bennetts' construction is in compliance with the code.<ref>http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2000/sep/06/restraining_order_issued/</ref> The City does not recognize cabins and garage apartments as buildings. <ref>Revised Municipal Code City of Steamboat Springs http://www.municode.com/resources/gateway....pid=10098&sid=6 </ref>

Kevin Bennetts' wife Jane filed a criminal complaint against Kay Sieverding saying "She started jumping up and down and screaming in the scariest voice, 'Just because you are the wife of the City Council president doesn't mean you can break the law.' I was so scared." Mrs. Sieverding was criminally prosecuted for complaining about Bennetts' guest house and the second floor over the detached garage. <ref>Gary E. Salazar "Woman in harassment case gets trial" Steamboat Pilot & Today 1/25/01 http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2001/ja...nt/</ref> The Sieverdings sued the Bennetts and the City of Steamboat Springs in federal court. The magistrate recommended that the Sieverdings' motions for summary judgment be stricken from the case "because they do not conform to the rules for filing an objection to Schlatter's recommendation". <ref>"Sieverding responds to recommendations" Steamboat Pilot & Today 11/03/03

In 2008, City Attorney Tony Lettunich asked the Steamboat Springs City Council to communicate with him using personal e-mail addresses. Council member Cari Hermacinski said "“We’re using our personal e-mails only when Tony Lettunich wants to send us something that’s attorney-client privilege,” <ref>Brandon Gee "City Council's email ethics vague." Steamboat Pilot & Today 10/26/08
Anthony Lettunich, the city attorney, also has a private law practice advertising real estate law. <ref>http://www.realestatelawyerpages.info/colorado-realestate-lawyers/steamboat-springs/lettunich-and-vanderbloemen/</ref>

[Viridae]

tl:dr

[GlassBeadGame]

Perhaps Kay could provide an executive summary? As it is it seems to have portions excerpted from some very badly written WP articles (maybe) showing wiki mark-up code but not linking to the articles, which seem widely diverse without connecting them them together with narrative. Other paragraphs seem to involve very un-encyclopedic events that appear to involve the poster. I'm not sure if the "censorhip" happened on wiki or by the local government. Really, I can't follow but it is unlikely that Kay came to the right place.

[Kelly Martin]

It was probably removed because it's clearly a rant of some sort. Wikipedia might be more fun if it were an encyclopedia of Internet rants, but the boring people who run it seem uninterested in collecting nonsense like the above.

I'd suggest you go to geocities, but I hear they closed recently. Have you considered myspace?

[written by he who wrote it]

Assuming you are the same person as Kay Sieverding (T-C-L-K-R-D) , you know about article and user talk pages. I'd make this inquiry there, where the person or people who might know the answer are more likely to see it.

[carbuncle]

This article may be enlightening.

[Somey]

It all stems from a 15-year-old noisy-neighbor complaint, apparently.

http://www.websupp.org/data/DMN/0:04-cv-04317-101-DMN.pdf

During the early nineties, while living in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, plaintiffs
Kay and David Sieverding became involved in a dispute with their then neighbors, one of
whom was the President of the City Council, over their neighbors’ construction activities
and perceived zoning law violations. Plaintiffs objected on numerous occasions to local
authorities. The neighbors eventually sought and received a restraining order against Kay
Sieverding. Additionally, Kay Sieverding was criminally charged with “unlawful tree
trimming” and harassment of her neighbor. Following mediation, the charges were
dropped and plaintiffs agreed to deed a portion of their property to the neighbors.

Plaintiffs believe that, at least in part because of the neighbor’s City Council position,
their neighbors were permitted to violate numerous zoning laws without consequence,
while Kay Sieverding faced allegedly frivolous criminal charges and was forced to
endure the imposition of an unwarranted restraining order. Similarly, plaintiffs believe
that the prosecutor refused to drop the criminal charges against Kay Sieverding and
threatened her with a jail term, which forced plaintiffs into virtually giving away their
land, at the behest of her former neighbors. The dispute between plaintiffs (Kay
Sieverding in particular) and the neighbors was reported in the local newspaper on
several occasions. Plaintiffs vehemently assert that the reporting was inaccurate and
misleading and, therefore, defamatory.

In October 2002, plaintiffs brought suit in the United States District Court for the
District of Colorado against their former neighbors and a number of other individuals
seeking compensation for the damages they have suffered in connection with the dispute
with their neighbors, the related legal proceedings, and the newspaper reports of the
matter...

Apparently they went all the way to the Supreme Court with this:

http://www.rightscase.com/No.%2007-884.pdf

[Lar]

The revision history for Pro se legal representation in the United States may be instructive, as will review of the talk page archives, especially archive 4: Talk:Pro_se_legal_representation_in_the_United_States/Archive_4

Assuming you are the same person as Kay Sieverding (T-C-L-K-R-D) , you know about article and user talk pages. I'd make this inquiry there, where the person or people who might know the answer are more likely to see it.

Kay Sieverding is not currently able to make such enquiries on WP.

This article may be enlightening.

Yes, that's a classic all right.

[GlassBeadGame]

Kay, run away from Wikipedia and don't look back. Regardless of the merits of your claims I wish you no ill will and that site will only make every problem you have much, much worse.

[Trick cyclist]

The WR account links to WP account Oldnewsreader2, whose talk page reads:

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You have been blocked for evading your indefinite block of the User:Kay Sieverding account. Please do not perpetuate your battles with Judge Nottingham here on Wikipedia. Thank you. Risker (talk) 16:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

The Kay Sieverding account was blocked by an admin called Lar.

[Lar]

Assuming you are the same person as Kay Sieverding (T-C-L-K-R-D) , you know about article and user talk pages. I'd make this inquiry there, where the person or people who might know the answer are more likely to see it.

Kay Sieverding is not currently able to make such enquiries on WP.

The Kay Sieverding account was blocked by an admin called Lar.

The Lar (T-C-L-K-R-D) user page may be instructive. As might this blog post

[Milton Roe]

The Lar (T-C-L-K-R-D) user page may be instructive. As might this blog post

I think WR, just like WP, is not monolithic. WP has a lot of good people at it and some that are not so good. At WR the proportion is rather different, rather the other way round,

We've not gunna forget that, Larzy.

[GlassBeadGame]

The Lar (T-C-L-K-R-D) user page may be instructive. As might this blog post

I think WR, just like WP, is not monolithic. WP has a lot of good people at it and some that are not so good. At WR the proportion is rather different, rather the other way round,

We've not gunna forget that, Larzy.

Fuck you Lar, you pandering asshole.

[One]

Kay Sieverding is a frequent pro se litigant in the Colorado. Her underlying case is something about properties supposedly being left off the tax rolls in Steamboat Springs, Colorado at the behest of Lloyds of London. Or something.

From her post, I infer that Ms. Sieverding believes her case deserves more prominence in some Wikipedia article.

For what it's worth, Ms. Sieverding was once held in contempt by then-federal judge Edward W. Nottingham in Colorado. Judge Nottingham later resigned from his Article III appointment after an FBI investigation. I understand that Ms. Sieverding believes there was corruption involved in the handling of her case. As crazy as it sounds to me, it's something. Not many pro se litigants are judged by later-disgraced jurists.

This post has been edited by One: Mon 7th December 2009, 1:28am

[dtobias]

The Lar (T-C-L-K-R-D) user page may be instructive. As might this blog post

I think WR, just like WP, is not monolithic. WP has a lot of good people at it and some that are not so good. At WR the proportion is rather different, rather the other way round,

We've not gunna forget that, Larzy.

Fuck you Lar, you pandering asshole.

Clearly, you're angling to be pegged as one of the "not so good".

[Lar]

Fuck you Lar, you pandering asshole.

Tsk tsk... here I thought you were one of the good ones.

We've not gunna forget that, Larzy.

It was almost 2 years ago now that I wrote that, don't forget that either.

[victim of censorship]

Kay, run away from Wikipedia and don't look back. Regardless of the merits of your claims I wish you no ill will and that site will only make every problem you have much, much worse.

There is a tarnished brass sign, hanging over Wikipedia and it says...
Omnes relinquite spes, o vos intrantes

This post has been edited by victim of censorship: Mon 7th December 2009, 2:05am

[Lar]

Clearly, you're angling to be pegged as one of the "not so good".

If that's what he wants, he's going to have to work harder at it than that. But why would he care what I thought of him? What matters more is whether he has valid criticisms to give. Which he does. That he occasionally flies off the handle? Who cares. Comes with the territory.

[dtobias]

Clearly, you're angling to be pegged as one of the "not so good".

If that's what he wants, he's going to have to work harder at it than that. But why would he care what I thought of him? What matters more is whether he has valid criticisms to give. Which he does. That he occasionally flies off the handle? Who cares. Comes with the territory.

Well, his criticisms are internally consistent and presented in a literate manner, unlike some others around here, but they come from an ideological position he holds which is pretty much diametrically opposite to mine.

[Cedric]

Fuck you Lar, you pandering asshole.

Tsk tsk... here I thought you were one of the good ones.

We've not gunna forget that, Larzy.

It was almost 2 years ago now that I wrote that, don't forget that either.

Really?? Does "almost 2 years ago" make that much difference? Would I now be correct in assuming you no longer view "joking" as being "disruptive" to "the project"? (FTR: there was no joking involved. Extreme paranoia and/or bald-faced lies, yes; but no joking.)