Who is Cbrick77 (aka "Chris)?, Newbie joins the planning committee for Cirt/Jayen carnival Options

[Jagärdu]

Who is Cbrick77 (aka "Chris") and why is this newbie so interested in creating workshop proposals at the arbitration case between Cirt and Jayen? It certainly has Jayen perplexed and I can't imagine anyone is convinced by the protestations that this is his first account. So who the hell is he? A returned former admin or Arb who left the project with his tails between his legs? Another manifestation of ChrisO -- which would be funny for a number of reasons. Imagine ChrisO thinking to himself that signing his name "Chris" is like hiding in plain sight and therefore a wonderful disguise. I know there are people here who want to play this guessing game so let's hear it.

[Mathsci]

Common sense seems to have prevailed, probably in response to Thatcher's suggestions.

The new motion before ArbCom



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[Jagärdu]

Common sense seems to have prevailed, probably in response to Thatcher's suggestions.

The new motion before ArbCom

Seems like much more trouble than its worth. If Arbcom and it's clerks just did their job something like this wouldn't be needed. So who the hell is Cbrick77 at the end of the day? We'll never know for sure it seems, but as Thatcher has pointed out repeatedly his proposals should be removed. That neither the arbs nor admins like NuclearWarefare who have communicated with the editor directly over email, should have insisted that he remove them himself is the real problem. In the end, when the actors are incompetent you simply can't rewrite the script to satisfaction.

Addendum: And you as well, Mathsci, have apparently not asked this editor to remove his entries, despite your insistence to Cla68 that he remove his evidence.

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[No one of consequence]

Common sense seems to have prevailed, probably in response to Thatcher's suggestions.

The new motion before ArbCom

Seems like much more trouble than its worth. If Arbcom and it's clerks just did their job something like this wouldn't be needed.

Would it surprise you to learn that Arbitrators can be quite bitchy if their pages are messed up without permission? I know of a few occasions where a clerk was bold and did something entirely sensible, only to get reamed out by an arbitrator.

There doesn't need to be a formal rule with an edit count and a waiver procedure, but there at least needs to be an understanding between the arbitrators and the clerks that a clerk can remove proposals for good cause, and that understanding needs to include thinking about what kinds of things good cause might be, as well as a commitment from all the arbitrators that they won't publicly flog a clerk who tried to do something sensible that the arbitrator later disagreed with.

[radek]

Common sense seems to have prevailed, probably in response to Thatcher's suggestions.

The new motion before ArbCom

Seems like much more trouble than its worth. If Arbcom and it's clerks just did their job something like this wouldn't be needed.

Would it surprise you to learn that Arbitrators can be quite bitchy if their pages are messed up without permission? I know of a few occasions where a clerk was bold and did something entirely sensible, only to get reamed out by an arbitrator.

There doesn't need to be a formal rule with an edit count and a waiver procedure, but there at least needs to be an understanding between the arbitrators and the clerks that a clerk can remove proposals for good cause, and that understanding needs to include thinking about what kinds of things good cause might be, as well as a commitment from all the arbitrators that they won't publicly flog a clerk who tried to do something sensible that the arbitrator later disagreed with.

I think this is something Manning mentioned before too. There does seem to be at least a bit of a landlord-servant relationship here, with the understanding that if the clerk performs their tasks meekly and to the masters' liking then they get put into the future-ArbCommer que (and then get to abuse their own clerks). Sort of like grad school.

[No one of consequence]

There does seem to be at least a bit of a landlord-servant relationship here, with the understanding that if the clerk performs their tasks meekly and to the masters' liking then they get put into the future-ArbCommer que (and then get to abuse their own clerks). Sort of like grad school.

1. Yes, except that the overly complicated and drawn-out election process means that clerks only have a slight edge, which comes from being seen as responsible in a highly visible arena.

2. Under the right circumstances, the right clerk can get the arbitrators to meekly follow him. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) (But it's pretty rare.)

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