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[Milton Roe]

But it cannot die, until Herostratus' fate is decided. And hair and fingernails grow for 48 hours after death, but phone calls tapir off.*

Actually the skin just shrinks.

I knew that, but it spoils the joke. Joke-spoiler.

[EricBarbour]

Jimbo has proclaimed his latest "philosophical thoughts". I'm reminded of Jack Handy.

Now that's the smartest thing anyone has said in this thread so far.
Jimbo IS Jack Handey.
With the exception: unlike Jack Handey, Jimbo is utterly tiresome and
not the slightest bit funny or entertaining.

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Fri 25th June 2010, 5:23am

[Subtle Bee]

Now that's the smartest thing anyone has said in this thread so far.

...and that was the second smartest.

With the exception: unlike Jack Handey, Jimbo is utterly tiresome and not the slightest bit funny or entertaining.

...and also that nobody actually mistook JH for a serious thinker.

This post has been edited by Subtle Bee: Fri 25th June 2010, 5:45am

[Somey]

Jimbo IS Jack Handey.
With the exception: unlike Jack Handey, Jimbo is utterly tiresome and not the slightest bit funny or entertaining.

Right, but what am I, chopped liver? Jimbo Wales couldn't come up with material like that if his life depended on it.

Besides, the whole basis for this thread tangent is non-valid. These aren't "philosophical" thoughts at all - and bear in mind that Jimbo is someone who considers Ayn Rand to be a "philosopher." What he posted is little more than quasi-political navel-gazing, probably meant to set himself to take some of the credit in the exceptionally unlikely event that the WP'ers manage to come up with some sort of actual RfA reform plan.

The more interesting post is this one by S Marshall (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who gets perilously close to a workable solution, but predictably suggests "unbundling" admin rights along purely systemic lines (i.e., separating delete/undelete from block/unblock, for example)... when what they need is a two- (or perhaps three-) tier administrative system along experiential lines, one that protects established users from n00bs and vice-versa.

They'll resist the idea of using time-in-game as a criteria for setting up hierarchies because it looks anti-egalitarian, not to mention MMORPG-like. But they have to accept their MMORPG-like nature if they're going to survive, because that's where the culture is headed, and as for the other thing, Wikipedia only pretends to be egalitarian. It's not, and it never has been.

[CharlotteWebb]

Besides, the whole basis for this thread tangent is non-valid. These aren't "philosophical" thoughts at all - and bear in mind that Jimbo is someone who considers Ayn Rand to be a "philosopher." What he posted is little more than quasi-political navel-gazing, probably meant to set himself to take some of the credit in the exceptionally unlikely event that the WP'ers manage to come up with some sort of actual RfA reform plan.

The more interesting post is this one by S Marshall (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who gets perilously close to a workable solution, but predictably suggests "unbundling" admin rights along purely systemic lines (i.e., separating delete/undelete from block/unblock, for example)... when what they need is a two- (or perhaps three-) tier administrative system along experiential lines, one that protects established users from n00bs and vice-versa.

You could tar-pit that phirosophy under Forgetting S. Marshall so we can continue cracking dumb jokes uninterruptedly as our favorite shit-head burns up re-entering the herostrato-sphere.

RfA can be held for those who have adminship already.

The best words which could ever be said about that can be found here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=229906&diff=prev

[EricBarbour]

Great, he managed to get some brown-nosing done. Now the count is 59/35/14 with 4 days to go.
Apparently we get to put up with his bullshit for another few months.

[CharlotteWebb]

Great, he managed to get some brown-nosing done. Now the count is 59/35/14 with 4 days to go.
Apparently we get to put up with his bullshit for another few months.

I'm tempted to return to WP just to oppose his ass.

[Eight]

Great, he managed to get some brown-nosing done. Now the count is 59/35/14 with 4 days to go.
Apparently we get to put up with his bullshit for another few months.

I'm tempted to return to WP just to oppose his ass.

He's winning!!!

[Somey]

He's winning!!!

Hmm... I can't say I'm all that surprised, since there are large numbers of WP'ers who utterly dread the idea of an effective "recall" process that actually results in someone losing his or her admin rights, and most of the people who monitor RfA's probably fall into that category.

However, IMO it's fair to say that the people supporting him are focusing almost entirely on the one incident leading up to the vote (i.e., his comments during the Kenneth Dickson AfD), rather than his whole body of work.

I've said before that Herostratus shouldn't be an admin, and I still believe that. But on the plus side, he doesn't seem to be into the kind of devious admin manipulations we've seen from others in the past, even though he does seem to have an "agenda" going there... He'll embarrass them again, there's almost no question of that, but of course these are people who don't seem to care about being embarrassed by misguided or just-plain-dumb admin actions - probably because there have been so many they don't even notice them anymore.

[A Horse With No Name]

I'm tempted to return to WP just to oppose his ass.

Mmmmm...kinky!

[A Horse With No Name]

And an interesting post-script.

I love this: "Oh, and would people stop calling me a ''pedophile'' for crying out loud? This is getting past the point of being amusing. There are (or were) people advocating to run me to ground on this account, and well there is little that can be done to ''me'' in real life at this point, my wife holds a position of public trust and could be destroyed by this, and how fair would that be? Who knows what the people at Wikipedia Review think or are capable of? So would y'all watch your mouths please."

Hmmmm....didn't know about a Mrs. Herostratus. Anyone got pictures of this elusive mama?

[ulsterman]

He's winning!!!

He's lost.

Hmmmm....didn't know about a Mrs. Herostratus. Anyone got pictures of this elusive mama?

Can someone please find Horsey a nice filly?

[EricBarbour]

He's winning!!!

He's lost.

It appears that he gets the picture, perhaps.

But some of his admin buddies are over on his talkpage, giving him even more worthless barnstars.
Is there any point to this? Just tell him you appreciate his reasonable handling of the vote,
and move on.

And finally.......

It's a disgrace that there are Wikipedian's, even Arbitrators, that give that site legitimacy by posting there. The absolutely halfwitted shite posted there about you, that some editors were even so daft as to repeat here, and the even worse things you allude to that were attempted, is about standard for it. Those editors giving that site legitimacy need a serious word with themselves if they can just dismiss that thread. You almost got a support just for standing up to them in the way that you did. Most people won't even take the risk of even signing up to it for fear of the real world consequences. MickMacNee (talk) 19:22, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Before you condemn WR, get your own house in order, asshole.

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Wed 30th June 2010, 10:02pm

[Milton Roe]

And finally........

It's a disgrace that there are Wikipedian's, even Arbitrators, that give that site legitimacy by posting there. The absolutely halfwitted shite posted there about you, that some editors were even so daft as to repeat here, and the even worse things you allude to that were attempted, is about standard for it. Those editors giving that site legitimacy need a serious word with themselves if they can just dismiss that thread. You almost got a support just for standing up to them in the way that you did. Most people won't even take the risk of even signing up to it for fear of the real world consequences. MickMacNee (talk) 19:22, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Before you condemn WR, get your own house in order, asshole.

I think he was talking about this site. No?

[Selina]

Found this on another site:

March 2010:

Herostratus: admin that Wikipedia Review revealed was investigated by the FBI for possession of child pornography. Court ordered not to edit Wikipedia, so he's doing it through a third party. Recently blocked by Viridae but unblocked himself. A self unblock hasn't been done on Wikipedia since 2005. It could be some bizarre gag played by Herostratus. Wikipedia:User:Herostratus. Wikipedia Review thread.

[GlassBeadGame]

Found this on another site:

March 2010:

Herostratus: admin that Wikipedia Review revealed was investigated by the FBI for possession of child pornography. Court ordered not to edit Wikipedia, so he's doing it through a third party. Recently blocked by Viridae but unblocked himself. A self unblock hasn't been done on Wikipedia since 2005. It could be some bizarre gag played by Herostratus. Wikipedia:User:Herostratus. Wikipedia Review thread.

He shortly latter claimed it was all a joke. Wikipedia, demonstrating "zero tolerance" for pedophiles, said "haha that's a good one Herostratus." He never provided any verification of his second claim of "just kidding." Viridae even kissed his ass and apologized.

I hope he makes a similar joke about having a bomb on an airplane the next time he flies. Then he will understand "zero tolerance."

[Malleus]

He made a stupid and tasteless joke, and now he's paid the price. Can't see anything wrong with that.

[tarantino]

Before you condemn WR, get your own house in order, asshole.

MickMacNee (AKA MickMacNee2 and Ultra7 on commons) has been blocked by at least 17 different people. That has to be a record.

What a maroon he is to keep going back and slaving away.

[Alison]

Before you condemn WR, get your own house in order, asshole.

MickMacNee (AKA MickMacNee2 and Ultra7 on commons) has been blocked by at least 17 different people. That has to be a record.

What a maroon he is to keep going back and slaving away.

Well it looks like it's just become indef now

12:06, 31 January 2010 Prodego (talk | contribs | block) changed block settings for MickMacNee (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation blocked) ‎ (attitude not compatible with this project) (unblock | change block)

EDIT: Oh wait! It's back to a week again

[milowent]

Before you condemn WR, get your own house in order, asshole.

aren't you the poster responsible for starting the irresponsible allegations of pedophilia based on a ridiculously obvious joke from Herostratus? even GlassBeadGame is repeating it still today (above)? absurd!

but since wikipedia review doesn't worry about blp violations at all, its not surprising that people would be accused of pedophilia based on evidence similar to oprah and the over 9000 penises claim.

This post has been edited by milowent: Thu 1st July 2010, 2:13am