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What are your other accounts, SV/HFO? Do you have a problem with Tryptofish because he/she disagrees with some of the content in a certain article?

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[Fascinating discussion on animal rights now has its own home here…perhaps giving this thread an opportunity to return to its original topic of Slimvirgin's malfeasance and latest attempted bullying.]
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QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Sun 29th March 2009, 10:45pm) *

[Fascinating discussion on animal rights now has its own home here…perhaps giving this thread an opportunity to return to its original topic of Slimvirgin's malfeasance and latest attempted bullying.]

Hmm…first we criticize Slim for "personalizing" discussions, and invite her to join the thread while sticking to the topic under discussion, animal rights. No sooner has she done so than a mod splits the thread to return it to its "original topic of Slimvirgin's malfeasance and bullying."

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QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Sun 29th March 2009, 11:11pm) *

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[Fascinating discussion on animal rights now has its own home here…perhaps giving this thread an opportunity to return to its original topic of Slimvirgin's malfeasance and latest attempted bullying.]

Hmm…first we criticize Slim for "personalizing" discussions, and invite her to join the thread while sticking to the topic under discussion, animal rights. No sooner has she done so than a mod splits the thread to return it to its "original topic of Slimvirgin's malfeasance and bullying."


I think the thread should not have been split. I was asked to comment -- basically to explain my position on animal rights and why I edit the articles the way I do -- and now that I've started explaining, it's moved to an off-topic area, and the claim that I'm POV pushing and somehow misusing Wikipedia is allowed to stand, unaddressed.

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QUOTE(Hell Freezes Over @ Mon 30th March 2009, 12:15am) *

I think the thread should not have been split. I was asked to comment -- basically to explain my position on animal rights and why I edit the articles the way I do -- and now that I've started explaining, it's moved to an off-topic area, and the claim that I'm POV pushing and somehow misusing Wikipedia is allowed to stand, unaddressed.

Animal rights is a clearly distinct topic from turning all threatening on WP in pursuit of your ownership of an article. I believe the threatening bit is the topic of interest in this thread. Your contribution on the other topic remains in the other thread.

So, please, feel free to address - what are you doing, SV? What are the circumstances which make it OK to ignore WP's "processes" and try to bully another "editor" away from a page?
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QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Sun 29th March 2009, 11:35pm) *

Animal rights is a clearly distinct topic from turning all threatening on WP in pursuit of your ownership of an article. I believe the threatening bit is the topic of interest in this thread. Your contribution on the other topic remains in the other thread.

So, please, feel free to address - what are you doing, SV? What are the circumstances which make it OK to ignore WP's "processes" and try to bully another "editor" away from a page?


When did I stop beating my wife?

I remember a lot of you complaining about the refactoring and moving of threads on Wikback, but things are much worse here. If you'd allowed that thread to continue, I'm guessing all or most of your questions would have been answered. What a few of you seem to insist on is that the infrastructure of any such discussion be 100 percent against me. If it's not, I'm being manipulative and derailing the thread.
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QUOTE(Hell Freezes Over @ Mon 30th March 2009, 12:43am) *

I remember a lot of you complaining about the refactoring and moving of threads on Wikback, but things are much worse here.

No they are not.

Quite simply, they are not. Very few threads get moved here. Whereas, on Wikback, the few posts and threads that existed regularly disappeared on a daily basis. And the board lasted about 3 months as a result. So no. Don't try that one. It won''t wash.

For what it's worth though, I don't think this thread should have been split.
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QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 29th March 2009, 11:46pm) *

QUOTE(Hell Freezes Over @ Mon 30th March 2009, 12:43am) *

I remember a lot of you complaining about the refactoring and moving of threads on Wikback, but things are much worse here.

No they are not.

Quite simply, they are not. Very few threads get moved here. Whereas, on Wikiback, the few posts and threads that existed regularly disappeared on a daily basis. And the board lasted about 3 months as a result. So no. Don't try that one. It won''t wash.

For what it's worth though, I don't think the thread should have been split.


I know only what I've seen this I've been here, and a lot of the threads in which I've started to answer whatever questions people had, and would have continued to answer them, have been moved. At least one of them I can't find at all. As I said, it feels as though some of you are only happy with a thread if I'm being pummelled in it. If I'm making a genuine effort to answer questions, it's "Help! Help! She's up to her old tricks!" You take ABF to hitherto undreamt of heights.
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QUOTE(Hell Freezes Over @ Sun 29th March 2009, 4:52pm) *
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QUOTE(Hell Freezes Over @ Mon 30th March 2009, 12:43am) *
I remember a lot of you complaining about the refactoring and moving of threads on Wikback, but things are much worse here.
No they are not. ... Quite simply, they are not. Very few threads get moved here. Whereas, on Wikiback, the few posts and threads that existed regularly disappeared on a daily basis. And the board lasted about 3 months as a result. So no. Don't try that one. It won''t wash.
I know only what I've seen this I've been here, and a lot of the threads in which I've started to answer whatever questions people had, and would have continued to answer them, have been moved. At least one of them I can't find at all. ...

You can see the actual evidence here.
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